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Antonio Conte - officially NOT the coach of THFC

Skipp in for PEH

Start Sess and Spence.

Perisic should be used as Kulu/Son backup.

We'd look tons better (and way more energy) just with those changes
 
DubSpur said:
We lost it tonight because of the midfield and in general has been our poorest area this season.
If they do sit in front of the defence then the WBs need to get forward and the midfield needs to cover the centre of defence allowing the outside CBs to cover the WBs if moves break down.
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Bedfordspurs said:
But they didn’t sit in front of the defence
They were all over the place but there
Hence why they could shoot at will
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We lost because United played with much, much higher intensity and press. They were relentless in their press, and when players get pressed hard, by multiple players, even very good players make mistakes, or lose the ball and look average. Only the absolute best manage to handle that sort of press, and even they will not be able to handle it an entire game without mistakes.
We didn't press them at all, and when players are given all the time in the world, even average players look good. We allowed them to play exactly like they wanted, without any press. That's why we lost. If we had done the same to them, they'd look worse than average.
But when you allow decent to good players, like they have, to have all the time in the world, and let them have a go, uncontested, 20+ times in the first half alone, you are asking for trouble!
 
billyiddo said:
Apparently we have run more than any team so far this season - not sure how that ties in with conserving energy
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Also physical condition has nothing to do with the fact that the basic passing and football has been awful. If anyone honestly believes Conte sets us up to put out such limp performances against the big boys because there’s a World Cup coming up then I would politely disagree….
 
Conte has been good for us, and has loads of credit in the bank, and I am totally behind him, however he totally dropped the ball yesterday, he really fcuked up in the way he managed that match.

All of us could see the goal coming and the fact that he failed to make any changes until we were 2:0 down was diabolical. Yesterday's performance was reminiscent of our second half performance in the 3:5 defeat at the Lane against Utd. Utd were all over us and Hoddle did nothing. He did nothing at 3:1, he did nothing at 3:2 and he did nothing at 3:3. Glen Hoddle waited until we were losing 3:4 before he made his first change. Like yesterday, it was too little too late.
 
NaijaSpurs said:
Conte has been good for us, and has loads of credit in the bank, and I am totally behind him, however he totally dropped the ball yesterday, he really fcuked up in the way he managed that match.

All of us could see the goal coming and the fact that he failed to make any changes until we were 2:0 down was diabolical. Yesterday's performance was reminiscent of our second half performance in the 3:5 defeat at the Lane against Utd. Utd were all over us and Hoddle did nothing. He did nothing at 3:1, he did nothing at 3:2 and he did nothing at 3:3. Glen Hoddle waited until we were losing 3:4 before he made his first change. Like yesterday, it was too little too late.
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The lack of subs at certain times is certainly a strange one TBH, I love the bloke but its odd.
 
Kandi1977 said:
We lost because United played with much, much higher intensity and press. They were relentless in their press, and when players get pressed hard, by multiple players, even very good players make mistakes, or lose the ball and look average. Only the absolute best manage to handle that sort of press, and even they will not be able to handle it an entire game without mistakes.
We didn't press them at all, and when players are given all the time in the world, even average players look good. We allowed them to play exactly like they wanted, without any press. That's why we lost. If we had done the same to them, they'd look worse than average.
But when you allow decent to good players, like they have, to have all the time in the world, and let them have a go, uncontested, 20+ times in the first half alone, you are asking for trouble!
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Yes, the midfield stood off them around our box and in general. There were numerous times they got to the edge of our box and had no player within 5 yards of them.
That is the responsibility of the midfield. Our passing was terrible, sideways and backwards most of the time with no decent forward passes just hopeful punts.
It has been terrible most of the season and not just because of the press last night. Even when we are playing well moves constantly break down because of poor passing from
midfield.
 
How have Arsenal gone from bottling 4th to being a title contender? How have we gone from getting 4th to looking more likely to finish 6th? Both clubs appeared to spend well in the transfer window and yet in terms of expectations and performances we are now miles apart with them having left us in their dust.
 
El Guepardo said:
How have Arsenal gone from bottling 4th to being a title contender? How have we gone from getting 4th to looking more likely to finish 6th? Both clubs appeared to spend well in the transfer window and yet in terms of expectations and performances we are now miles apart with them having left us in their dust.
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One club has a number of fast attacking creative players and the other does not. We played 3 in midfield and none of them are known for their creativity. Sure they can occasionally asset a goal, but creativity is not their stock-in-trade and therein lies the rub.
 
El Guepardo said:
How have Arsenal gone from bottling 4th to being a title contender? How have we gone from getting 4th to looking more likely to finish 6th? Both clubs appeared to spend well in the transfer window and yet in terms of expectations and performances we are now miles apart with them having left us in their dust.
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Don't forget they have had the absolute easiest opening run of fixtures ever known in the PL
 
markysimmo said:
Don't forget they have had the absolute easiest opening run of fixtures ever known in the PL
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But they’ve still beaten us and Liverpool. What have we done of note? As it stands hard to say that they haven’t become better than us. They’re definitely objectively better to watch than we are. We barely had a shot of quality last night. Conte needs to make big changes if we are to bounce back from this but he did so little in game against Manchester United last night that it makes me question if he has any alternative ideas.
 
NaijaSpurs said:
One club has a number of fast attacking creative players and the other does not. We played 3 in midfield and none of them are known for their creativity. Sure they can occasionally asset a goal, but creativity is not their stock-in-trade and therein lies the rub.
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Questions were asked in the summer as to why we didn’t buy a creative midfielder. It’s a gaping hole in our team, so why with a Director of Football, increased transfer spending available (the £150m) and an ambitious manager who wanted ro spend did we not fill that void.
 
El Guepardo said:
Questions were asked in the summer as to why we didn’t buy a creative midfielder. It’s a gaping hole in our team, so why with a Director of Football, increased transfer spending available (the £150m) and an ambitious manager who wanted ro spend did we not fill that void.
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I guess we'll see if we go back again for Zaniolo
 
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