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The all new Striker thread..

@NaijaSpurs

what about Austin - not a fan?

how would you justify spending a large proportion of our budget on a position where we already have a first choice player doing well, whilst there are a couple of positions in the first eleven, at least, which need addressing?
 
billyiddo said:
@NaijaSpurs

what about Austin - not a fan?

how would you justify spending a large proportion of our budget on a position where we already have a first choice player doing well, whilst there are a couple of positions in the first eleven, at least, which need addressing?
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On the contrary I do not mind Austin at all, it is just that Austin was not on my radar prior to last season while I have had my eye on Berahino for the last 2 years and Bentake for the last 3. At the very least |I think Austin would be an improvement on our 2 under performing strikers. But if we had wanted him we should have made a bid by now as his team was relegated in April

In this day and age I believe it is naive to believe that we can continue to manage with just one top quality striker. I have been supporting Spurs for too long and seen our team suddenly become ordinary too many times once our best attacking player is not available. Remember when Bale pulled out of a league match when his partner went into labour, there was no other stand out performer in the team and we were pants.

We were lucky last season because Kane did not get injured. We will not always be that lucky. Besides Man Utd did not say because we have Rooney we will not sign RVP, and they still went for Falcao on loan.

To become a top 4 team we need to realise that one top striker is not enough for us. We do not want a situation where once Kane gets injured there is a serious drop in quality up front. This concept of buying a player that is happy to be back up and sit on the bench is not the way to go. We someone who is ready to compete with Kane so Kane's standards do not slip. Heck it happened to Danny Rose.

38 league matches and 3 cup tournaments should be able to be enough to support 2 quality strikers and a young up and coming striker in my humble opinion.
 
of course another striker is important, and i agree with all you've said but the issue isn't whether we buy a forward or not it's whether we buy a 30m forward and in a world where we have a limited budget i don't think it's SO important that we spend most of our budget on that position when we already have Kane, especially when strikers like Berahino and Austin are potentially available for far less than Benteke

we need a starting CM and another wide forward, to make more money available for a second striker than for those starting positions combined just doesn't make sense.
 
The concept of a "first choice" player is so out of date.
You need two players capable of playing at a similar level. The fact Kane has cost very little actually makes it better value to spend a bit more to enhance our striker options.
 
Levy will always factor in resale value, and wages. Stop just talking about the up front fee FFS.

Berahino will recoup whatever we buy him for and have cheaper wages than Llorente. And be happy playing wide, using hard work and pace, unlike Llorente. It is a no brainer. Ditto Austin. Ditto Benteke compared to Llorente.
 
monkeybarry said:
The concept of a "first choice" player is so out of date.
You need two players capable of playing at a similar level. The fact Kane has cost very little actually makes it better value to spend a bit more to enhance our striker options.
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so what about positions where we don't have one player of the required quality? namely CM (alongside Bentaleb) the issue is how we spread our resources - Austin/Llorente/Berahino would allow us to strengthen the forward positions whilst (theoretically) leaving enough to improve the other areas of the team. circa 30m for Benteke would not allow for that
 
Scneiderlin 25m
Berahino 20m
Austin 12m

Strambouli 5m
Townsend 15m
Soladado 10m
Adebayor 5m (if arab side comes in)
Chiriches 5m
Kaboul 2m
Lennon 7m

Spend +8m (which would be recouped in wages gained and promoting within)

Other I could see leave which could bring it in line of zero net spend

Carroll 7m
 
Superhudd said:
Scneiderlin 25m
Berahino 20m
Austin 12m

Strambouli 5m
Townsend 15m
Soladado 10m
Adebayor 5m (if arab side comes in)
Chiriches 5m
Kaboul 2m
Lennon 7m

Spend +8m (which would be recouped in wages gained and promoting within)

Other I could see leave which could bring it in line of zero net spend

Carroll 7m
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very sensible, would be the dream window tbh
 
billyiddo said:
of course another striker is important, and i agree with all you've said but the issue isn't whether we buy a forward or not it's whether we buy a 30m forward and in a world where we have a limited budget i don't think it's SO important that we spend most of our budget on that position when we already have Kane, especially when strikers like Berahino and Austin are potentially available for far less than Benteke

we need a starting CM and another wide forward, to make more money available for a second striker than for those starting positions combined just doesn't make sense.
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I know it may seem a little naive on my part, especially in the context of building a new stadium but consider the following:

Due to the financial terms of the new Sky contract that kicks in next year the team that wins the league this coming season will earn less money than the team that finishes bottom of the league the following season. With all that money coming to clubs methinks a lot of that money will either go to players pockets in higher salaries or inflation will kick in when ENglish teams bid for players in the future. So a £15m player may end up with a £25-30m price tag by the selling club. In such a climate spending £30m on a player does not seem so unreasonable to me, especially when you consider we normally balance our books which means one season where we spend big is not necessarily unreasonable. But like I said maybe it is just a naive view on my part.
 
NaijaSpurs said:
I know it may seem a little naive on my part, especially in the context of building a new stadium but consider the following:

Due to the financial terms of the new Sky contract that kicks in next year the team that wins the league this coming season will earn less money than the team that finishes bottom of the league the following season. With all that money coming to clubs methinks a lot of that money will either go to players pockets in higher salaries or inflation will kick in when ENglish teams bid for players in the future. So a £15m player may end up with a £25-30m price tag by the selling club. In such a climate spending £30m on a player does not seem so unreasonable to me, especially when you consider we normally balance our books which means one season where we spend big is not necessarily unreasonable. But like I said maybe it is just a naive view on my part.
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It's not a lot for a first choice striker but it's extortionate for a second choice.

Poch won't be playing two strikers (neither should he) and I find it very hard to imagine a world where any manager would pick Benteke over Kane. Neither, for that matter, can I imagine a world where Benteke would be happy getting splinters in his 4rse waiting for Kane to get injured.
 
billyiddo said:
so what about positions where we don't have one player of the required quality? namely CM (alongside Bentaleb) the issue is how we spread our resources - Austin/Llorente/Berahino would allow us to strengthen the forward positions whilst (theoretically) leaving enough to improve the other areas of the team. circa 30m for Benteke would not allow for that
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I agree completely re; Austin. Llorente, I'm have not seen enough if since he left Spain, so have no opinion really.
Berahino - I think having missed out on Carrasco, Berahino suddenly becomes a good option at 15m as he contribute from wide and up front. I have question marks about how good he will actually be, I think he is very very raw.

I would be quite happy if we brought in Austin, Berahino & Schnriderlin (or an alternative) for around £45-50m as apposed to £30-34m just on Benteke. I think that gives us a better squad than bringing in Benteke and using Kane as a back up AM option.
 
monkeybarry said:
Walker as a winger? No way. He would suffer as Lennon did - key asset is pace but with no space in which to use it.
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I was asked in the situation we have injuries scenario. If Walkers defending deteriorates then like Bale he needs to move further forward.
 
Yedlin can be deployed further forward if needs be. Chadli can slot in there on the right, maybe even Pritchard. Theres plenty of options
 
yedlin not experienced playing further up the pitch ... a few games does not fill me with confidence to cover the whole season.
 
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