Richarlison

[Lilbaz]

As much as we need competition, the situations get heighten with the obsession with transfer windows. With Spurs we go in waves, I know we have to strive to improve, its the name of the game, but we seem to identify the defence as a problem, as that's addressed we then see a chorus of "now the attacks not up the snuff" rest assured if that's addressed we will be back on the full backs then its the midfield who will be fodder.

I slightly jest but it certainly feels that way at times.

I think its also key to remember that we are three games into a new dawn and for me, more key than us buying a host of new players is the yards we put in on the training ground to improve the collective, so far, from what I can see that's where the gains are being made. With Ange I get the impression he also relishes that part and part of his mentality is the fact he thinks he can makes improvements. That's not to say we should leave him in the learch but as I started out, slight disproportionate views on the transfer market IMO.

He has a history of going into a club and totally overhauling the squad. Whether that's the case with us we'll see.

 

[Grays_1890]

He has a history of going into a club and totally overhauling the squad. Whether that's the case with us we'll see.

TBH he has done a fair bit of that already, cut to a team that looks and feels totally different.

But our front line yesterday started with his Captain, Deki who was hailed as a superstar a year ago and has just had his transfer activated and a 60m striker who is a year into his career.

Maybe I shouldn't have taken a glegg at socials today but some of it is overblown (not just Richy)

I expect to see some slight changes this week but an overhaul of the frontline I don't

 

[Lilbaz]

Out of curiosity if we were offered vlahovic in a swap for richarlison (and maybe a bit of cash). Would people take it?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Out of curiosity if we were offered vlahovic in a swap for richarlison (and maybe a bit of cash). Would people take it?

Possibly
But Vlahovic isn’t the right fit for this type of football from what I’ve seen
We need a striker who can bend his runs, rolls off his CB and shoots on sight
Vlahovic does the latter

 

[Bedfordspurs]

As much as we need competition, the situations get heighten with the obsession with transfer windows. With Spurs we go in waves, I know we have to strive to improve, its the name of the game, but we seem to identify the defence as a problem, as that's addressed we then see a chorus of "now the attacks not up the snuff" rest assured if that's addressed we will be back on the full backs then its the midfield who will be fodder.

I slightly jest but it certainly feels that way at times.

I think its also key to remember that we are three games into a new dawn and for me, more key than us buying a host of new players is the yards we put in on the training ground to improve the collective, so far, from what I can see that's where the gains are being made. With Ange I get the impression he also relishes that part and part of his mentality is the fact he thinks he can makes improvements. That's not to say we should leave him in the learch but as I started out, slight disproportionate views on the transfer market IMO.

I fully agree
My issue remains though that Richy isn’t a CF
Son has barely played there in reality
I know we have some fans who think players can change and play similar positions. That’s true but anyone who is that flexible, is because generally they can’t hold a team place in one position
This team with a genuine Cf who knows all the CF nuisances would imo be better and relieve some of the pressure off Richy
Right now, all the eyes are on him as a struggling part of the plan. That’s a heavy weight to have on his shoulders

 

[Jurgen the German]

As much as we need competition, the situations get heighten with the obsession with transfer windows. With Spurs we go in waves, I know we have to strive to improve, its the name of the game, but we seem to identify the defence as a problem, as that's addressed we then see a chorus of "now the attacks not up the snuff" rest assured if that's addressed we will be back on the full backs then its the midfield who will be fodder.

I slightly jest but it certainly feels that way at times.

I think its also key to remember that we are three games into a new dawn and for me, more key than us buying a host of new players is the yards we put in on the training ground to improve the collective, so far, from what I can see that's where the gains are being made. With Ange I get the impression he also relishes that part and part of his mentality is the fact he thinks he can makes improvements. That's not to say we should leave him in the learch but as I started out, slight disproportionate views on the transfer market IMO.

The defence was the immediate priority at the time. Kane’s future was up in the air and we couldn’t succession plan as there was a 50/50 chance he would stay. Now he’s gone, the need for another forward has become more urgent. I’d like another creative midfielder and a striker and I think that will represent a very good window. Long term, we need at least one more CB but I think that’s less urgent than a forward.

 

[Grays_1890]

The defence was the immediate priority at the time. Kane’s future was up in the air and we couldn’t succession plan as there was a 50/50 chance he would stay. Now he’s gone, the need for another forward has become more urgent. I’d like another creative midfielder and a striker and I think that will represent a very good window. Long term, we need at least one more CB but I think that’s less urgent than a forward.

Yeh like I said yesterday another CF fot competition 100%.

My overall point is focus seems to continously change, I get the strive to improve but youbcant have it all in one window. I mean the CF thing I think needs to happen, but I've been reading a pile of crap elsewhere about how Deki and Son need replacing, some YT idiots too.

I do think some need to be realistic on the whole picture, not you BTW bud

 

[metalgear]

I'd trade Richy for Bournemouth's Semenyo...he's a flattack bully and fast too

 

[Hotshot-Tottenham]

The defence was the immediate priority at the time. Kane’s future was up in the air and we couldn’t succession plan as there was a 50/50 chance he would stay. Now he’s gone, the need for another forward has become more urgent. I’d like another creative midfielder and a striker and I think that will represent a very good window. Long term, we need at least one more CB but I think that’s less urgent than a forward.

Could Bentancur be the other creative MF? Feels like a good option.

I’m increasingly in the camp that we need an a CF - I hope Richy proves me wrong but I’m just not seeing it at the moment.

Unless Son shifts central and Ivan or Solomon play left. Maybe ok in stints but not sure I’d want that for a full season.

 

[Baleforce]

I'd trade Richy for Bournemouth's Semenyo...he's a flattack bully and fast too

he wouldn’t get away with all those fouls in our shirt, he’d spend half the time suspended

 

[Bishop]

As much as we need competition, the situations get heighten with the obsession with transfer windows. With Spurs we go in waves, I know we have to strive to improve, its the name of the game, but we seem to identify the defence as a problem, as that's addressed we then see a chorus of "now the attacks not up the snuff" rest assured if that's addressed we will be back on the full backs then its the midfield who will be fodder.

Thats how it should be. No team is perfect and can always be improved upon and we are far from perfect. Why would you want to settle with whatever we have at any given time? No, the way to improve is on the training ground and the transfer window the latter of which you do by addressing your weakest areas. If defence was the problem (it was) and it has now been fixed then you move on to the next weakest area (midfield) after that you move to the next problem area (striker) and so on and so on. Once you've addressed all of your already identified problem areas you will realise that a new area is now the weakest point, that might be keeper, RB, LCM, LWF etc, etc but you keep addressing areas. That is how you improve and stay on top. Every season Fergie won the title he made a significant move the following season in the window because he understood, that to standstill in football is to actually be moving backwards. We saw it ourselves in 2018/2019.

 

[Bishop]

I'd trade Richy for Bournemouth's Semenyo...he's a flattack bully and fast too

Physical presence but not much of a goal scorer. Richarlison will score more than him.

 

[Grays_1890]

Thats how it should be. No team is perfect and can always be improved upon and we are far from perfect. Why would you want to settle with whatever we have at any given time? No, the way to improve is on the training ground and the transfer window the latter of which you do by addressing your weakest areas. If defence was the problem (it was) and it has now been fixed then you move on to the next weakest area (midfield) after that you move to the next problem area (striker) and so on and so on. Once you've addressed all of your already identified problem areas you will realise that a new area is now the weakest point, that might be keeper, RB, LCM, LWF etc, etc but you keep addressing areas. That is how you improve and stay on top. Every season Fergie won the title he made a significant move the following season in the window because he understood, that to standstill in football is to actually be moving backwards. We saw it ourselves in 2018/2019.

OK let's put it into context, no club improves all areas in one window. We have had a few very decent windows in a row, the fruits of that labour are for all to see at the moment.

My point is people need abit of a reality check, we are improving areas but that for me doesn't mean we turn the eye of attention on the other areas when those other players are fresh through the door. Once the window closes that's the hard yards time, not a time to start moaning again about Deki who ironically has only just signed on FT.

Again, like I've said twice already, I get the need to improve, but with a section of our fans the process is relentless at times. I can take Dier and Sanchez need improving on, I'm not prepared to start throwing my toys out the pram because people think a month after they were crying about the need to improve the defence that we now need to urgently improve on the entire front three.

Maybe once the window closes the said fans who continously bang the transfer transfer transfer drum would be best served getting aboard something that currently looks exciting.

Might sound abit wet,l or old school but I genuinely think we all have a part to play and that includes not tearing down players 24/7 especially when we are winning games, 3 games into a new regime

 

[Bishop]

Oh if you're talking about people expecting or hoping for every area to be addressed in one window then those people are divorced from reality but thats not to say that will be wrong in wanting additional areas addressed. The sensible route imo is to fix what you can when you can and take note of any additional problem areas and attack them the next opportunity you get.

Part of the problem I suppose is that we first let ourselves stagnate in the 2018 and then tried to address but with 4 different coaches all playing a variety of systems are and all with different requirements for their various incomings we've ended up with a relatively unbalanced squad that needs gutting more than it needs incomings imo.

 

[Grays_1890]

Oh if you're talking about people expecting or hoping for every area to be addressed in one window then those people are divorced from reality but thats not to say that will be wrong in wanting additional areas addressed. The sensible route imo is to fix what you can when you can and take note of any additional problem areas and attack them the next opportunity you get.

Part of the problem I suppose is that we first let ourselves stagnate in the 2018 and then tried to address but with 4 different coaches all playing a variety of systems are and all with different requirements for their various incomings we've ended up with a relatively unbalanced squad that needs gutting more than it needs incomings imo.

Exactly that, my view is fix whats needed now and in reality (in that I do include another CF just to be clear) but equally there after its 100% about getting the players and the club firing in this new system and culture. As I say I strongly believe that comes from the fans too. Its abit too previous to get ahead and start to make concrete judgements on 15 start Richy, 23 year old Deki who was probably top 3 POTS a season back and a club legend who is only 31/30 (depending who you believe haha)

Agree with the last part too, alot of the complaints are shrouded with histronics, don't get me wrong, alot can go wrong still and might, but we can't keep judging the present with the past, especially when you have a really positive proactive time. Some just seem to want to live in the past OR fast forward to the time they think we will fail which they see as inevitable.

Worry about what you can control and enjoy what you can't as much as you can, thats my holistic approach to this period

 

[parklane1]

One of the things that strikes me at times when watching struggling strikers is what Bobby Soldado said once, back in 2014. He never fit here, and he would go on to leave us having scored just three goals from open play in his time here.

But despite that, nearly every game, he would be serenaded - the Lane ringing to 'Soldado, wo-oah, he came from sunny Spain, to play at White Hart Lane/play with Harry Kane'.

And in an interview in 2014, he was very honest about how that made him feel - awful. Because he had done nothing to deserve the support our fans were giving him, but they kept singing his name anyway. He said then that he wished more than anything he could give happiness to those fans who supported him even when nothing was working, but he just didn't know how, and that hurt him.

And that honesty then got him even more support - he never fired for us, but up until he left, he kept getting his name sung by the fans, and he *never* forgot that. He still talks about it today, a decade on, about how grateful he was for Spurs fans taking him to heart even when he'd failed.

The reason I bring it up is because Soldado admitting that took a lot of introspection, and it showed us that he *knew* he wasn't cutting it - but he was trying all he could to change that. That was what mattered, why he had that bond with us - the honesty, and the commitment to keep trying.

Richarlison strikes me as someone with that sort of introspection. He's brutally honest about himself and in general, and has the intelligence to know he's having a series of terrible performances trying to replace our talisman.

I think, like Soldado, a little support would go a long way in his case. He seems like an emotional guy, and if we can get him wanting to run through brick walls for the fans that sing his name, like we did with Bobby Soldier - one thing we will get back, 100%, is ironclad commitment to run and run and run until his legs fall off.

And if that brings goals, great. If not, well, we move on. But for now, I think we should give him the support we gave Soldado, and see where that takes us.

Great post mate.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

I get the give him time camp but I just don’t see him scoring many goals. He’s never been prolific.

The rest of his game is pretty average.Yes he’s a nine for Brazil but we are not taking Brazil of old they are pretty average side these days so all the but he’s Brazil’s number 9 stuff means nothing.

Sometimes things don’t work out at certain clubs. We over paid for him without doubt and he’s not shown anything to me that says he’s going to come good. He’s far too inconsistent. Brief periods he looks a world beater but it’s rare rather than the norm.

We must sign a striker before Friday.

We will hang onto him for a few years then he will get some loans, then go for free.

 

[Surfless]

If our forward is misfiring and we have 7 points from 9 with goals looking like coming from the wings, centre mids and full backs, with occasional set piece defenders goals, I'm happy.

Last season if Kane was injured or off colour we didn't have a hope.

 

[indospurs]

I'd trade Richy for Bournemouth's Semenyo...he's a flattack bully and fast too

not Antonio of wet spam? he is using his physicality a lot better now, it's a bit... scary

 

[Bishop]

If our forward is misfiring and we have 7 points from 9 with goals looking like coming from the wings, centre mids and full backs, with occasional set piece defenders goals, I'm happy.

Last season if Kane was injured or off colour we didn't have a hope.

The likelihood though is that there will be some games and moments where the midfielders and defenders don't finish the chances they get. At that point you want your front 3 who on paper are more capable of scoring to be doing so. It's great to be getting goals from everywhere and that is ultimately the dream, but it's actually that, getting goals from everywhere including the frontline whose job it is primarily to score.

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