Grays_1890
Barry Daines
watching MOTD and he is extremely unlucky not to get the goal when he sold the defender for a walk TBH, didn't see it again till now
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Richarlison
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Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Was good defending
He did everything right but the defender did what he could
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Just watched it again and he should have shot first time IMO. After that, he was unlucky. It looks like he always wants one more touch when in front of goal, understandable given his form but he needs to trust himself and shoot first time.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
My views are very closely aligned with @Bishop. I am also judging him on his career, particularly his PL career. I’ll admit I wasn’t overly excited when we signed him for the reasons Bishop laid out, first touch, overall play etc and I do accept last season was tough for him and we have a new manager now but I’ve not seen anything so far to change my views and honestly I’ve been underwhelmed. That said, I would persist with him for at least a dozen games although not necessarily as a CF, I’d swap him and Son around where possible. I would urge the club to sign another forward TBH as he needs some competition and I’m not sure he will get enough goals or create enough.
spurspinter1
Pat van den Hauwe
Calvert lewin was CF at Everton
They also had Josh King, Cenk Tosin and Soloman Rondon who played CF
He played there as a stop go when he was injured
2 of my best mate are ST at Everton so they always talked about Richy. They loved him
At Watford it was Troy Deeney and Andre Grey IIRC when he joined
Johnson would be an alternative for Kulu imo but could in theory play central too[/QUOTE]
So you're saying Johnson can play central in theory but Richy isn't a CF. I shouldn't need to put in to words my doubts in your thoughts process, you can do the leg work there, just think about what you're saying and whether it adds up.
Calvin Calvert Lewin who is either injured or doing photoshoots or Josh King (not a CF by any stretch) or Tosin (a toss CF at best) were the competition, that's you're argument that Richy isn't a CF. If that's where Big Ange plays him, that's what he fudging is, Joshua fudging King or Tosin have fudge all to do with it even if it props up your half arsed argument.
He's our man (person / entity).
Edit - fudge the formatting system, the above post I was quoting was from @Bedfordspurs
They also had Josh King, Cenk Tosin and Soloman Rondon who played CF
He played there as a stop go when he was injured
2 of my best mate are ST at Everton so they always talked about Richy. They loved him
At Watford it was Troy Deeney and Andre Grey IIRC when he joined
Johnson would be an alternative for Kulu imo but could in theory play central too[/QUOTE]
So you're saying Johnson can play central in theory but Richy isn't a CF. I shouldn't need to put in to words my doubts in your thoughts process, you can do the leg work there, just think about what you're saying and whether it adds up.
Calvin Calvert Lewin who is either injured or doing photoshoots or Josh King (not a CF by any stretch) or Tosin (a toss CF at best) were the competition, that's you're argument that Richy isn't a CF. If that's where Big Ange plays him, that's what he fudging is, Joshua fudging King or Tosin have fudge all to do with it even if it props up your half arsed argument.
He's our man (person / entity).
Edit - fudge the formatting system, the above post I was quoting was from @Bedfordspurs
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Except shoot first time.
Grays_1890
Barry Daines
I think there is scope to give him a chance and also as you say, as I have said before, to have him battering the left, if he can get 15 goals as a WF for Everton I think any club would be silly to dump that, let alone us, but also agree we need competition for the places.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
So you're saying Johnson can play central in theory but Richy isn't a CF. I shouldn't need to put in to words my doubts in your thoughts process, you can do the leg work there, just think about what you're saying and whether it adds up.
Calvin Calvert Lewin who is either injured or doing photoshoots or Josh King (not a CF by any stretch) or Tosin (a toss CF at best) were the competition, that's you're argument that Richy isn't a CF. If that's where Big Ange plays him, that's what he fudging is, Joshua fudging King or Tosin have fudge all to do with it even if it props up your half arsed argument.
He's our man (person / entity).
Edit - fudge the formatting system, the above post I was quoting was from @Bedfordspurs[/QUOTE]
I’m just saying who played Cf at Everton
You don’t have to rate them but they played there ahead of him
I mean that’s facts, not an opinion
I don’t rate them either by the way
but the facts are that Richy has barely played CF at top club level. He has played wide left mainly. We did have conte playing him right and he looked really uncomfortable
I said in theory about Johnson as It’s an option. Doesn’t mean I’d play him there but he could. He and played there before at Forrest
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
He couldn’t shoot first time
The ball was slightly behind him and there was a keeper and 2 defenders in front
spurspinter1
Pat van den Hauwe
I’m just saying who played Cf at Everton
You don’t have to rate them but they played there ahead of him
I mean that’s facts, not an opinion
I don’t rate them either by the way
but the facts are that Richy has barely played CF at top club level. He has played wide left mainly. We did have conte playing him right and he looked really uncomfortable
I said in theory about Johnson as It’s an option. Doesn’t mean I’d play him there but he could. He and played there before at Forrest[/QUOTE]
Anything is an option. You could play Solomon as an option as CF, it doesn't mean we'd want to do it.
The rag tag bunch you mentioned at Everton don't mean that we aren't best off building around Richy in the central position. Some competition wouldn't hurt for sure, not disagreeing with that but using Josh King as an argument, we've got Son on the left ffs, football isn't rocket science.
Mikey10
Pedro Mendes
Can’t agree at all. K**e would have smacked it into the bottom left corner without a second thought.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Anything is an option. You could play Solomon as an option as CF, it doesn't mean we'd want to do it.
The rag tag bunch you mentioned at Everton don't mean that we aren't best off building around Richy in the central position. Some competition wouldn't hurt for sure, not disagreeing with that but using Josh King as an argument, we've got Son on the left ffs, football isn't rocket science.[/QUOTE]
I haven’t said we shouldn’t give richy games
But I have said we need an option there too
Josh king isn’t my argument. It’s who they had there as CF back up
Some of our fans wanted him to dont forget…
They even played Siggy Cf in some games when short
We can’t be the club that only has one “striker” and it happens to be a guy with less than a 100 games in that position at this level
That’s crazy if so
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Kane who isn’t here?
So are we always gonna compare a player to Kane
I’d argue that Kane would have been much deeper so wouldn’t have even be there to get the ball then…
Mikey10
Pedro Mendes
He left less than a fortnight ago, so I don’t think a comparison is invalid.
And I did asterisk his name…
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
I disagree. He could have shot first time. As I said before, after that he was unlucky. Strikers who aren’t in good form often want one more more touch. Fernando Torres at Chelsea comes to mind during his wretched run of form. He just needs one to bounce in the net off his arse or off any body part that isn’t his arm.
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Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Guys goneHe left less than a fortnight ago, so I don’t think a comparison is invalid.
And I did asterisk his name…
His name is frozen now from the clubs data unless he returns or retires
We just have to find other ways and we are doing that
Every okayed is doing that IMO
For example Richy is struggling at times but is still putting his shift in
That means others can step in too and take the goal scoring burden
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
100%
He needs that goal whatever way it comes
We as fans wouldn’t care either way but the release for him would be huge
spurspinter1
Pat van den Hauwe
I haven’t said we shouldn’t give richy games
But I have said we need an option there too
Josh king isn’t my argument. It’s who they had there as CF back up
Some of our fans wanted him to dont forget…
They even played Siggy Cf in some games when short
We can’t be the club that only has one “striker” and it happens to be a guy with less than a 100 games in that position at this level
That’s crazy if so[/QUOTE]
Gotcha on your points, but Son is a striker as well. And bringing in Solomon makes no sense if we don't view Son as a strong option in the center. There's little difference between a LWF and a ST these days depending on the system.
But again, it took Bale 4 great games for you to consider him to own the LW position and a couple to own the right flank and become one of the best in the game there - In your mind he should have remained a LB because he had played more than 100 games in there. I know you won't change your mind on it (and that is why you're unintentionally infuriating to discuss football matters with) but please consider that you're "100 games in that position" is a dumb one. Players evolve and grow in to roles. If Richy can't evolve past Joshua King as a barrier than we should cancel the contract right now but I know he's got the potential.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Gotcha on your points, but Son is a striker as well. And bringing in Solomon makes no sense if we don't view Son as a strong option in the center. There's little difference between a LWF and a ST these days depending on the system.
But again, it took Bale 4 great games for you to consider him to own the LW position and a couple to own the right flank and become one of the best in the game there - In your mind he should have remained a LB because he had played more than 100 games in there. I know you won't change your mind on it (and that is why you're unintentionally infuriating to discuss football matters with) but please consider that you're "100 games in that position" is a dumb one. Players evolve and grow in to roles. If Richy can't evolve past Joshua King as a barrier then we should cancel the contract right now but I know he's got the potential.[/QUOTE]
we can’t wait for him to evolve
We signed a player to do a job
I’m not convinced we signed him as kanes back up either
That seems ti be where conte shove him
Bale evolved at a much younger age, and even then we were happy to sell him and miss out on his talent. Redknapp only played him again because BAE was injured and he was stuck
So I’m not gonna consider my opinion wrong because I don’t think I am. An elite player should have some experience playing the position he is being asked too