Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
How long do you back him for? He will get more games as we don’t have anyone else but if he’s still not scored or only has 1 or 2 goals after say 12 games then I would say that is cause for concern.
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Richarlison
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How long do you back him for? He will get more games as we don’t have anyone else but if he’s still not scored or only has 1 or 2 goals after say 12 games then I would say that is cause for concern.
spurspinter1
Steve Carr
Because Solomon is a new signing that would have a chance by Son moving to the centre in the case of Richy being injured. Does he fit in to your Ange 4-3-3 without that happening? A genuine question, not meaning to sound argumentative, I might be being shortsighted but it doesn't add up with more incomings and Gill to return etc.
Players transition easier than the average poster would believe and Bale whilst a cherry picked example is a solid example of that.
Obviously no club signs a player with the intention of them becoming supposed deadwood but given our situation of lack of sales it does seem odd to be signing back up players like Solomon, which would add to the case that we won't be signing another forward.
That's part of why I'm banging the Richy drum. Maybe it's delusion, I've been snippy with other posters for doing a similar thing in terms of positivity in the face of reality but this guy has all the tools. If posters like @Gilzeantoscore choose to call him a weakling that's fine, the management needs to show him the faith and in turn the player needs to repay that faith, it'd be silly for me to be arguing against people seeing a lack of end product because it's there to see for everyone at the minute but it can change and as Tommy says he just needs a moment.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
This keeps coming up but he doesn’t play for a particularly strong Brazil side.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
For me he is far from a weakling
His back story in Brazil explains a lot about the kind of character Richy is
And IMO he is exactly the right kind that ange would want
But he is a left sided forward being asked do play CF for a side in development
He needs confidence and that only comes with games
Solomon is IMO 100% a squad option. I don’t think we expect anything else from him
Gil I think will be sold or loaned out again this season.
But I just think it would be wrong for a side with ambitions of being a top side to go into a season without a player who has been a CF all his adult career.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
It’s a bang average Brazil side
But it’s still Brazil so the hype and name carries sway
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
He got 10 in 10 last year in a poor Brazil side, I think that's more of a plus than a minus. Yes the level varies but the goal doesn't move.
Yes we need competition, we don't have the same luxury we had with Kane, but that's doesn't mean he is useless
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
He strides into his country like billy big balls
He plays for us like a broken man
We need the former
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
Decent support for the lad TBF
spurspinter1
Steve Carr
I agree with you on the mentality side of things.
Wheeling back to the Bale example, it's not about where a player has played for their adult career but I appreciate how that has influenced your thinking on our current striker situation.
The majority of strikers being right footed could also be labeled as "left sided forwards" as you call them. Almost anyone would jump at the chance to cut in and shoot on their natural side if given the choice, you have less options being a solo frontman as opposed to a strike partnership which is less "in vogue" at the moment.
If you seriously think we're signing squad players whilst having a massively overcrowded squad then fair enough, it doesn't seem like joined up thinking to me. I prefer the version of events that is based on Ange and coaching staff seeing something in the player to take us to the next level rather than bringing in more opportunistic dross we'll have to sell in a season or two.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
I might be completely wrong on this call, but I’m inclined to give it till Jan, not buy a forward now ( if who we want is not available) and see where we are then in terms of Richi’s form and injuries etc.
Baring in mind we won’t have that many games we could go with the following till Jan;
Richarlson
Son
Veliz
Scarlett (if we go down this route then don’t loan him)
I think there’s a player there in Richy he’s shown that at Everton (& Brazil), a bit of faith could spark him in to life?
just the way I’m leaning.
Baring in mind we won’t have that many games we could go with the following till Jan;
Richarlson
Son
Veliz
Scarlett (if we go down this route then don’t loan him)
I think there’s a player there in Richy he’s shown that at Everton (& Brazil), a bit of faith could spark him in to life?
just the way I’m leaning.
I wouldn't spend huge money. But if orban is availble for less than €30m, i'd take him.
I agree with what you have said. Hopefully veliz can be the next kane. But would like to reduce the risk. If richi can't get his head right, we are an injury away from being bare bones in that position. Orban is considered u21 so wouldn't take up a squad space.
Let them fight it out.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
I think we do see something in Solomon
But I also think the club expect to shift some dross so that new players like him can play
Ange is already making it clear with his squad picks
We were IMO short of a wide forward with Moura leaving. That’s the role Solomon fills IMO just with potential for more goals
back on richralison.. he played left side forward at Everton and Watford
He rarely if ever played CF. Nothing to do with him being right footed, just that they had CFs playing alongside him
He plays CF for Brazil and has done a great job there but I think international footy is poor. Still he can only do what he has done, which is score
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
The best Kane is coming through the youth team
We don’t need the next kane for this system. We need a play who can move off his man and connect with shots
Bishop
John Lacy
Yeah another striker would be good to have. I'm wondering if Veliz might be an option later on in the season depending on how he's adapting and fitting into the squad?
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The youth team players need loans. Not just to get experience but get used to expectation from fans.
As for not needing a kane for this system. He is a complete forward. Can score in the box if needed. Can hold it up. Just because he dropped deeper the last couple of seasons doesn't change that. The only thing he lacked was pace.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
He could be anything
And I’d hate us to buy a player to block progress of a younger player
But…. We have to look at where we are today and what we what to achieve this season
Veliz may fit the bill
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
We don’t need Kane though
The system works without a player of his calibre if they are effective
That’s not saying Kane wouldn’t be of course. Elite players can fit in many systems
But we aren’t buying another Kane
We don't need any one player. Doesn't mean we wouldn't be better off with them.
I never said we should buy another kane.
spurspinter1
Steve Carr
So you think we see something in Soloman but label him a squad player simultaneously but don't have him as a first in line, okay.....
The largely written off Perisic is ahead of him in the pecking order, that's what the evidence clearly suggests so far.
Moura was an RWF with us, unless Kulu has an injury / a severe drop in form, hopefully Gill will be there for it imo unless we can get someone like Johnson from Forest but it would still mean a shift in system if Son is the cover for Richy.
Who were the CFs that played alongside Richy that forced him out wide? I don't recall. It seemed like Richarlison got a brick load of his goals in the box as the main striker but I could be totally mistaken on that one.[/QUOTE]
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
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Calvert lewin was CF at Everton
They also had Josh King, Cenk Tosin and Soloman Rondon who played CF
He played there as a stop go when he was injured
2 of my best mate are ST at Everton so they always talked about Richy. They loved him
At Watford it was Troy Deeney and Andre Grey IIRC when he joined
Johnson would be an alternative for Kulu imo but could in theory play central too