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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

I think we may have gone though a rubicon on Saturday...how many times have we been there before when the earlier games are in our favour to push up a position and we don't take it? Especially when we'd had less than 5 days since the previous game?
Also, that was the first time that Poch has won 4 league games with us on the spin and is a real milestone imo. Onwards and upwards, we go to the next game at the Etihad showing them respect but at the very least instilling as much fear into them as they (or perhaps Aguero lol) might into us.

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It's hard to look at things in isolation as there are just too many moving parts. So when I look at Poch's substitutions, I see @metalgear 's point in that the evidence would suggest that substitutions are earlier and making more of an impact. However, does this mean that Poch has responded to this or that actually he thinks that he has an option to change things much like @braineclipse is suggesting. I think it is the latter but it makes no difference. We are playing much better than we were at the start of the season and this is because this group of players has developed a real understanding of one another and the system that Poch wants to play.

We're pretty much all agreed that we are looking more like a team and that actually players coming in know what they are doing etc... This is because they completely get what Poch wants on the pitch, but also what each other are going to do in certain situations so that they can anticipate.

I've been mightily impressed that Wimmer has been able to come in and basically pick up from where Jan left off. I was originally worried about this, but there has been no reason to be. It's early days, but he looks like a great defender! Credit for this should go to Poch for ensuring all our players understand our system. The training sessions haveobviously not just focussed on the first Xi but actually on the entire first X1 squad.
 
It's hard to look at things in isolation as there are just too many moving parts. So when I look at Poch's substitutions, I see @metalgear 's point in that the evidence would suggest that substitutions are earlier and making more of an impact. However, does this mean that Poch has responded to this or that actually he thinks that he has an option to change things much like @braineclipse is suggesting. I think it is the latter but it makes no difference. We are playing much better than we were at the start of the season and this is because this group of players has developed a real understanding of one another and the system that Poch wants to play.

We're pretty much all agreed that we are looking more like a team and that actually players coming in know what they are doing etc... This is because they completely get what Poch wants on the pitch, but also what each other are going to do in certain situations so that they can anticipate.

I've been mightily impressed that Wimmer has been able to come in and basically pick up from where Jan left off. I was originally worried about this, but there has been no reason to be. It's early days, but he looks like a great defender! Credit for this should go to Poch for ensuring all our players understand our system. The training sessions haveobviously not just focussed on the first Xi but actually on the entire first X1 squad.

Indeed! This was my biggest bugbear with Redknapp and so far what Poch is doing is showing how you manage a squad.

Great stuff!
 
nope. we were right.
he's responded well to that string of draws we started with this season. play was way different then if your recall, too intricate and only through the centre; very few crosses; very late subs.

It was ( and still is ) a work in progress and if anyone thinks it should happen overnight they need a reality check. Brain makes a good point above and its why things have changed to a degree.
 
The Sun with a load of bs that United are "talking to Pochettino's representatives". Poch doesn't even have an agent.

ah that time a coming where Tottenham a rooting and shooting so need to be destabilised by the British media...yeehaw!

as you say lets call bs on this...Lets see Mauricio finish what he has started......guff off Man Utd!
 
I'm hoping that all the speculation is nonsense, but it would be only natural for Pochettino to be in demand. I just don't want to see the great events of this year, suddenly come to a crashing halt. Pochettino has been everything to us that we needed him to be. I would love for him to create a Wenger/Sir Alex Ferguson style legacy with us, but realise that that's optimistic.
 
The Sun with a load of bs that United are "talking to Pochettino's representatives". Poch doesn't even have an agent.

This is why I have always hated ManU more than any other club including Arsenal ! ManU are devil by name and devil by actions ! They are the real evil empire of this football world ! They have caused us huge setbacks on and off the field far too many times during the PL era. They "control" most of the media and even governments around the world ! We should never let any of our players or officials go to ManU again ! Hope Levy will stop us being their feeder club for once !
 
nope. we were right.
he's responded well to that string of draws we started with this season. play was way different then if your recall, too intricate and only through the centre; very few crosses; very late subs.

Nope, not having that mate. Nobody was delighted with draws, that much was a given. You expressed an opinion, but equally, a few of us did express our opinions that he was still working to tune things to where he wanted them as well as still learning who could have an impact and when. The difference is some people belted him without looking at the bigger view of what he'd done/was doing/was looking to do...not saying you were one of those, but they were around mate.
 
Nope, not having that mate. Nobody was delighted with draws, that much was a given. You expressed an opinion, but equally, a few of us did express our opinions that he was still working to tune things to where he wanted them as well as still learning who could have an impact and when. The difference is some people belted him without looking at the bigger view of what he'd done/was doing/was looking to do...not saying you were one of those, but they were around mate.

I have admitted to being impatient last season. I thought, in spite of my having initially wanted Pochettino at the club, that his appointment might not be successful. Our football was largely terrible, we were uninspiring, lost against teams that we shouldn't have been losing against, and getting late goals to cover over the cracks in other games.

I was wrong, as I didn't truly see that all this was work in progress that would lead, as quickly as it did, to where we are now. I admire the direction in which Pochettino has steered the club. Not only are we achieving results, but through a combination of getting rid of the unwanted players, teaching those here his style & adding a couple of pieces to the jigsaw, Pochettinonhas delivered us to a place (in terms of quality of team, and playing style), that seemed beyond expectation. The results that he has achieved, and continues to achieve, have been excellent. Sometimes I, and others around me, just have to learn to be more patient, see what will happen a season down the line, not just at that exact moment.

I blame the instant gratification World that we live in. I do realise though that we can each take power over our emotions, even if not in total control, and can learn to improve in such attributes as patience.
 
Goes back to 'that' quote...'when you sign here you sign to train...'

That's part of it for sure. Though I was more talking about style of play.

There are a lot of aspects to Pochettino's success. Many of which I'm sure we as fans can't properly get our heads around. But both his style of play, his no nonsense approach to hard work, his discipline and his tremendous dedication to developing players at the club are all part of it.
 
That's part of it for sure. Though I was more talking about style of play.

There are a lot of aspects to Pochettino's success. Many of which I'm sure we as fans can't properly get our heads around. But both his style of play, his no nonsense approach to hard work, his discipline and his tremendous dedication to developing players at the club are all part of it.

I think the key to everything this season is that 25 players train every week on a level with each other devoted to that style of play, meaning that IMO, there is next-to-no drop-off when someone comes in. Obviously there will be a little, I mean natural talent means that the likes of Alli and Kane are simply sublime, but you know what I mean...I think it is the only reason Pritchard went on loan to WBA. That is to say, had he been able to be around the first-team squad for the first half of the season, he might have been integrated right in, instead they thought it best to get him first-team football and then integrate through a full pre-season. I don't think I ever remember seeing four full-backs so seamlessly rotated ever!!!!
 
I think the key to everything this season is that 25 players train every week on a level with each other devoted to that style of play, meaning that IMO, there is next-to-no drop-off when someone comes in. Obviously there will be a little, I mean natural talent means that the likes of Alli and Kane are simply sublime, but you know what I mean...I think it is the only reason Pritchard went on loan to WBA. That is to say, had he been able to be around the first-team squad for the first half of the season, he might have been integrated right in, instead they thought it best to get him first-team football and then integrate through a full pre-season. I don't think I ever remember seeing four full-backs so seamlessly rotated ever!!!!

I don't disagree that the work rate and dedication is fundamental to our success. But for me the system of play is just as important. And I think the continued development of our system of play in the season and a half (and a bit) so far has been part of why we haven't plateaued or regressed the way many other "hard working" teams with charismatic motivational managers often do.

Similarly the trust and belief Poch has in (our) young players is also vital. That's why players like Kane, Alli, Dier etc have stepped up the way they have. To the point that their sublime skill and effort is making them better players than we could realistically have signed for the club up to this point. That development, that focus on development, is part of the overall strategy. And that's just as important as the hard work for me. Because that's where we get to combine hard work with tremendous skill.

On Pritchard I think you might be right. But I think part of it is quite simply that he needs game time and with the way both our first team and squad players are playing at the moment it was going to be difficult for him to get that game time he needs to get up to his best in the intense second half of this season. Better to get game time elsewhere and be better prepared for the pre-season and next season after returning.
 
He's certainly making a reputation for himself

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...o-pochettinos-rise-from-espanyol-to-tottenham

Mauricio Pochettino's rise from Espanyol to Tottenham
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Mauricio Pochettino was named Tottenham's head coach in the summer of 2014
We chart the rise of Mauricio Pochettino and examine how he is transforming Tottenham ahead of their Super Sunday showdown with Emirates Marketing Project at the Etihad Stadium...

Sir Alex Ferguson never faced Mauricio Pochettino's Tottenham but it is safe to assume his team talk would have been rather different to the one Roy Keane made famous two years ago. "It was Tottenham at home," recalled the former Manchester United captain. "He came in and said: 'Lads, it's Tottenham', and that was it. Brilliant."

Keane was using that anecdote to highlight Ferguson's knack for knowing exactly what his players needed to hear, but it said even more about Spurs. To their rivals, they were a soft touch; the Premier League's nearly team, where managers came and went but the formula stayed the same.

Pochettino, though, is overseeing a transformation. The traditional flakiness has been replaced by what their head coach calls a "winning mentality", and Spurs sit second in the Premier League having won seven of their last nine games, including Saturday's utterly dominant 1-0 victory over Watford. "They are like animals," said an awe-struck Quique Sanchez Flores. "They have everything a team needs to try to be champions."

That includes the fearlessness with which they will approach Sunday's clash with Emirates Marketing Project. "I think we are different people now," said Pochettino on Saturday. "We live in the present, and the group of players, the staff, the club, the president and the supporters believe we are strong and we can win every game. This is important."

This Spurs side is built in Pochettino's image. The former Argentina international was a tough, tactically astute centre-back in his playing days. He often references the influence of Marcelo Bielsa as a youngster at Newell's Old Boys in his homeland, and he went on to spend most of his playing career at Espanyol, where he had two spells either side of a stint in France with Paris Saint-Germain and Bordeaux.

"As a player at Espanyol, Pochettino was a leader, a captain and just generally somebody who people listened to when he talked," Spanish football expert Guillem Balague tells Sky Sports. "He was a big-name international and when he returned as the coach in 2009, it was the return of the prodigal son in a way."

Espanyol was Pochettino's first job in management and he inherited a side that looked doomed to relegation from La Liga, but within a month he had overseen their first away win against arch-rivals Barcelona in 27 years, and they ended the season in 10th place after an extraordinary run of eight wins from their last 10 games.

For the next three seasons Pochettino kept Espanyol competitive despite the club being in what Balague describes as "financial disarray". Key players were repeatedly sold but Pochettino put his faith in youngsters from their academy and the bold approach paid off. "No coach took more points from Pep Guardiola's Barcelona," says Balague. "With what he had, it was a fantastic achievement."

Espanyol played with the high-intensity style that would become a hallmark of his Southampton and Spurs sides. "It was possession football, with building from the back," says Balague. "He gave the players the confidence to do exactly that and he made us [the fans] enjoy it. The results weren't always great but for three seasons they were good enough and we were enjoying the football."

Pochettino's side began to slide in the 2012/13 season and he left by mutual consent with them bottom of the table that November. It was a sad way to depart and showed he still had much to learn, but Southampton's former executive chairman Nicola Cortese had seen enough to controversially sack Nigel Adkins and appoint the young coach at St Mary's just a couple of months later.

The decision provoked widespread outcry, but the doubts didn't linger for long. Southampton successfully avoided relegation in 2012/13, and Pochettino was able to put his stamp on the team as they secured an eighth-placed finish in 2013/14 - just two years on from their promotion from the Championship.


All the players bought into his philosophy and he got respect from every player at the football club."
Matt Le Tissier

"I think his biggest asset was probably the team spirit that he got going at Southampton," Saints legend Matt Le Tissier told Sky Sports. "All the players bought into his philosophy and he got respect from every player at the football club."

Tales of Pochettino's gruelling training techniques began circulating in the summer of 2013. The Argentine subjected his players to three sessions per day during pre-season, and he even made them walk barefoot across hot coals during their tour of Asia. "At times you want to kill him, simply because he makes you suffer like a dog," said Pablo Osvaldo, who worked with Pochettino at Espanyol and Southampton. "But, in the end, you get the right results."

Pochettino's demands were a culture shock, but Southampton's players were smitten by the 43-year-old and the club reaped the rewards. "He's world-class, not just as a manager, but as a person," said Adam Lallana. "The way he man-manages his players. He makes you feel good about yourself."

That year, Pochettino's men were the fittest and fastest side in the division, forcing opponents into mistakes with feverish pressing all over the pitch. Premier league tracking data showed Southampton ranked first for distance covered and high-intensity sprints, and it is no coincidence that Spurs have overtaken Saints in both departments since his move to White Hart Lane.

Pochettino's Premier League running stats
Season Club Distance covered rank Sprints rank
2013/14 Southampton 1st 1st
2014/15 Tottenham 2nd 3rd
2015/16 Tottenham 2nd 2nd
Pochettino works on his players' confidence as well as their fitness. "He planted it into our heads that even if we were up against bigger teams and bigger players, we could compete at the same level as them," said Nathaniel Clyne. "Personally, it took my game to another level."

Clyne is not the only one to have felt the benefits. "We do have to work hard in training and I do suffer but it's an enjoyable kind of suffering because I'm benefitting so much," said Danny Rose a few months after Pochettino arrived at Spurs. "I'm far more tactically aware and more consistent."

Pochettino has a ruthless side, too. At Espanyol he stripped his former team-mate Raul Tamudo of the captaincy despite the striker's legendary status at the club, and he has shown a willingness to wield the axe at Spurs.Emmanuel Adebayor was completely frozen out after refusing to fall in line, and Andros Townsend's days were numbered from the moment he publically rowed with fitness coach Nathan Gardiner in November.

After Espanyol and Southampton, Pochettino's youth policy has been even more successful at Spurs. The philosophy is embodied by teenager Dele Alli, who has been a revelation this season, and Spurs' dynamic and hungry squad does not contain a single outfield player over the age of 30.

"Pochettino is quite happy to give young players a chance ahead of big-name players, as long as they're good enough," says former striker Terry Gibson, who came through the youth ranks at Spurs in the late 1970s and early 1980s. "I think he enjoys working with the young players because they take on board his ideas and they're fit enough to carry them out.

"His treatment of Roberto Soldado and Harry Kane was the perfect example," adds Gibson. "The club paid a hell of a lot of money for Soldado but he was quite happy to let them fight it out and for Kane to be the first choice. It has worked perfectly. Now they're thriving and they look a really good side.

"Spurs have always had a reputation as a cup team but he's changing it now and we Spurs fans are really enjoying it. We're still pessimistic about winning the league or winning anything, but that's the nature of being a Spurs fan when we haven't won the league for so long. I think there is a genuine belief now that Tottenham can go close."

If Pochettino feels his players need any extra motivation when they travel to the Etihad Stadium, he could do a lot worse than remind them just how far they have come since Ferguson's famous team talk.
 
I don't disagree that the work rate and dedication is fundamental to our success. But for me the system of play is just as important. And I think the continued development of our system of play in the season and a half (and a bit) so far has been part of why we haven't plateaued or regressed the way many other "hard working" teams with charismatic motivational managers often do.

Similarly the trust and belief Poch has in (our) young players is also vital. That's why players like Kane, Alli, Dier etc have stepped up the way they have. To the point that their sublime skill and effort is making them better players than we could realistically have signed for the club up to this point. That development, that focus on development, is part of the overall strategy. And that's just as important as the hard work for me. Because that's where we get to combine hard work with tremendous skill.

On Pritchard I think you might be right. But I think part of it is quite simply that he needs game time and with the way both our first team and squad players are playing at the moment it was going to be difficult for him to get that game time he needs to get up to his best in the intense second half of this season. Better to get game time elsewhere and be better prepared for the pre-season and next season after returning.

Agreed. I think we are saying the same thing with slightly different accents ;-)
 
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