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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

I don't believe the bit about Man Utd contacting Poch's representatives, as he doesn't have any - if they have contacted him direct then rules have beenbreached. I do, however, think that the United hierarchy will have discussed him as a potential target, but I can't see him wanting to leave. His philosophy is coming to fruition at Spurs, why squander that for a club who are governed by sponsors and Jorge Mendez?

Media trying to ruffle us, did the same to Leicester a few weeks back linking Ranieri with Chelsea.
 
clownfoot said:
I don't believe the bit about Man Utd contacting Poch's representatives, as he doesn't have any - if they have contacted him direct then rules have beenbreached. I do, however, think that the United hierarchy will have discussed him as a potential target, but I can't see him wanting to leave. His philosophy is coming to fruition at Spurs, why squander that for a club who are governed by sponsors and Jorge Mendez?

Media trying to ruffle us, did the same to Leicester a few weeks back linking Ranieri with Chelsea.
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Paper talk.
Moanwhinio for Manure. I didn't think so before Pup at Emirates Marketing Project, but the money men will not be able to resist the whole 'Manc-galactico' crap...
 
Historically Utd are a bigger Club than us. That's a fact. However when chosing a Club for the future surely you'd look at the following factors;

Chairman
Neither are saints but he's developed a good working relationship with Levy. Glazers and Woodward are renowned for being hard work.

Stadium
Old Trafford would historically be a deciding factor compared to WHL but with the new ground on the horizon I'm not sure there's much in it anymore, in fact a brand new stadium is quite a drawcard.

Squad
Ours is packed with young, English talent that Poch has managed to buy into his philiosphy. Sure Poch could work with many of those players but you see how he gets involved when Ali scores, he loves them and they love him. Rooney v Kane says it all.

Champions League
I don't want to jinx anything but its us or them.

Training ground
Carrington was the mutts nuts but these its Hotspur Way that sets the benchmark.

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Staff
Paul Mitchell, his coaching team, sure they could all follow him to Old Trafford but I find it hard to believe he'll get the set up around him which is thriving for a while. Levy has worked hard on this aspect and isn't likely to hand it all over to the Glazers.

Location
London or Manchester. I mean come on, its a no brainer.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but in every one of those criteria we appear to be better positioned than them?
 
awesome dawson said:
Historically Utd are a bigger Club than us. That's a fact. However when chosing a Club for the future surely you'd look at the following factors;

Chairman
Neither are saints but he's developed a good working relationship with Levy. Glazers and Woodward are renowned for being hard work.

Stadium
Old Trafford would historically be a deciding factor compared to WHL but with the new ground on the horizon I'm not sure there's much in it anymore, in fact a brand new stadium is quite a drawcard.

Squad
Ours is packed with young, English talent that Poch has managed to buy into his philiosphy. Sure Poch could work with many of those players but you see how he gets involved when Ali scores, he loves them and they love him. Rooney v Kane says it all.

Champions League
I don't want to jinx anything but its us or them.

Training ground
Carrington was the mutts nuts but these its Hotspur Way that sets the benchmark.

27A1C6A500000578-3041839-image-a-14_1429191993608.jpg


view-across-pitches.jpg


Staff
Paul Mitchell, his coaching team, sure they could all follow him to Old Trafford but I find it hard to believe he'll get the set up around him which is thriving for a while. Levy has worked hard on this aspect and isn't likely to hand it all over to the Glazers.

Location
London or Manchester. I mean come on, its a no brainer.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but in every one of those criteria we appear to be better positioned than them?
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All your points are valid, I would also add that the likelihood of Old Whiskey face sitting on your shoulder at every game, is hardly an enticing prospect.
 
Pochettino gives us every reason to believe that he is not only a smart manager, but one who fully understands the structure of the game. As both a player and manager, he's had a good view of the game from many angles and knows the perils and pitfalls that await those who jump too far, too soon. I find it hard to believe that he'd jump to a club like ManU before he's given himself ample time to prepare and gain the necessary experience.

United's managerial post has become something of a slippery slope. We've seen two managers whom most observers would have said were sound choices for the job fail miserably under the intense pressure to succeed instantly. Both Moyes and LVG now have tarnished their images badly and United are looking like they're about to join Liverpool in the Lost Perch Searchers Club.

Pochettino has a very good thing going at Spurs. He's come to the right place at the right time, where he can work to his strengths and fully express himself as a manager. He's earned respect, admiration and security. You can't doubt for an instant that ambitious young players are yearning for the chance to play for him.

There's a sound base already in place and the strong likelihood of adding to it very soon and creating an even stronger Spurs side for the foreseeable future. He has to be one of the most envied managers in top flight football right now.

When the time is right, he'll be ready to move to a big club. If circumstances work out properly at Spurs, he'll create that big club for himself. We have no need to fret about him moving.
 
awesome dawson said:
Historically Utd are a bigger Club than us. That's a fact. However when chosing a Club for the future surely you'd look at the following factors;

Chairman
Neither are saints but he's developed a good working relationship with Levy. Glazers and Woodward are renowned for being hard work.

Stadium
Old Trafford would historically be a deciding factor compared to WHL but with the new ground on the horizon I'm not sure there's much in it anymore, in fact a brand new stadium is quite a drawcard.

Squad
Ours is packed with young, English talent that Poch has managed to buy into his philiosphy. Sure Poch could work with many of those players but you see how he gets involved when Ali scores, he loves them and they love him. Rooney v Kane says it all.

Champions League
I don't want to jinx anything but its us or them.

Training ground
Carrington was the mutts nuts but these its Hotspur Way that sets the benchmark.

27A1C6A500000578-3041839-image-a-14_1429191993608.jpg


view-across-pitches.jpg


Staff
Paul Mitchell, his coaching team, sure they could all follow him to Old Trafford but I find it hard to believe he'll get the set up around him which is thriving for a while. Levy has worked hard on this aspect and isn't likely to hand it all over to the Glazers.

Location
London or Manchester. I mean come on, its a no brainer.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but in every one of those criteria we appear to be better positioned than them?
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Just to ballance that out a little, I think if you compare us at the state we were in when poch took over, United doesen't look bad at all.. We had a squad full of overpaid lazy players that didn't fit his style or mentality at all, the chairman is renowned for beeing trigger happy and hard to deal with, and most of the key staff he's brought with him from Southampton. If we where to play devils advocate you could easily say that Poch would think that if he could do this to a club like us, what could he do with doubble, tripple or whatever the resources at United.

Don't get me wrong, I think he's very happy here and I don't think he'd join United this summer given the chance, but I don't think the picture is quite as rosy as you paint it.

Ugh, I feel like I need a shower after typing that.
 
"Hey Poch, we'd like to pay you double what you earn at Spurs, with transfer and wage funds to afford any player in the world if you can persuade them to sign for us."
 
LemonadeMoney said:
"Hey Poch, we'd like to pay you double what you earn at Spurs, with transfer and wage funds to afford any player in the world if you can persuade them to sign for us."
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We have an average age of 28, our youth setup needs a total overhaul and we DEMAND results in 12 months.

Oh and getting in the changing room is a challenge with all he egos.
 
alekaras said:
Want to place a friendly bet he'll never be a United, City, Arse, or Chelsea coach? Ever.

£20?
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Ever?! Go for it! I only have to wait till he moves to one of them (although I don't believe he will this summer at least) you have to wait till he retires and the guys only 43. ;)
 
All the romanticism aside it all depends on wether Poch is motivated by money or by his project.

It's pretty unusual for people not be primarily motivated by money so that would be the natural thing in my opinion but he is an unusual character in this sense.

I think he wants to build a legacy and something special that is his and I don't think there is a better opportunity for him to become a modern Fergie/Guardiola type at any other club right now other than Spurs and what he has in front of him.

Levy should offer him a ridiculous contract as he has got us to 2nd in the league in February with a zero net spend and at least that can cover the money angle. But the dream and glory vision has to be here at Spurs.

Or am I being a romantic?
 
LemonadeMoney said:
"Hey Poch, we'd like to pay you double what you earn at Spurs, with transfer and wage funds to afford any player in the world if you can persuade them to sign for us."
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Unlimited money or drastically more money is not going to make Poch a more successful manager and he knows that. I have zero fear he's leaving for Man United. Absolutely zero. And I'm willing to bet anyone anything they want on that.
 
LutonSpurs said:
All the romanticism aside it all depends on wether Poch is motivated by money or by his project.

It's pretty unusual for people not be primarily motivated by money so that would be the natural thing in my opinion but he is an unusual character in this sense.

I think he wants to build a legacy and something special that is his and I don't think there is a better opportunity for him to become a modern Fergie/Guardiola type at any other club right now other than Spurs and what he has in front of him.

Levy should offer him a ridiculous contract as he has got us to 2nd in the league in February with a zero net spend and at least that can cover the money angle. But the dream and glory vision has to be here at Spurs.

Or am I being a romantic?
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If you read the link i posted from The Mirror, that was very much along the lines of him being motivated by the project and having control of every aspect of it.
 
Poch isn't even that good anyway. I mean what's he ACTUALLY achieved in his career? At Southampton he finished 8th, Koeman beat that at the first attempt. In his first season with us he finished with less points than Sherwood in a modest 5th, and in the second the only reason he's done well is because the big boys of the league have flopped so hard. He MASSIVELY lucked out that Kane came through when he did as we'd been crying out for a goalscorer like him for years. His signings have all been crap, I mean Benjamin Stambouli? Federico Fazio? DeAndre Yedlin? Alli, Alderweireld, Dier and Son were all Levy/Baldini signings, nothing to do with him. He got to inherit a world class spine of players like Lloris, Vertonghen, Eriksen and Lamela and co, and the only reason players like Dembele, Rose, Walker and Chadli started playing better is because of the new training ground - was bound to have happened under any manager. Look at how the likes of Capoue, Soldado and Lennon have improved since leaving him for better coaches. No doubt Townsend and Adebayor are going to be some of the stars of the second half of the season.

Quite simply - United are welcome to him. No trophies, far too many draws, choked in a cup final, defeats at home to crap like Villa and Saudi Sportswashing Machine (twice), boring in interviews...Ranieri has proven that money and Champions League football are not necessary to put together a good team and has shown up Poch for the fraud that he truly is. Trust me - we can do a LOT better than this guy.
 
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