I'd sooner he was happy than tinkled off.
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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
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I'd sooner he was happy than tinkled off.
FatBloke
Niko Kranjcar
You know, I really am not so sure. I love it that Poch (and by extension our club) conducts himself gentlemanly and respectfully. However, that's not consistent with what's happening on the pitch -- Spurs are becoming a dirty team. Is that a bad thing? I really don't know. I don't mind hard-but-fair tackles...and going in late at the end of a hard-fought game against some of the most skilful players in Europe isn't such a horrendous thing. But Alli's punch, Dembele's eye-gouge...for me, that's not what I want Spurs to be about.
Perhaps I should be happy that our manager leaves it on the pitch. But part of me wonders what would have happened if Poch had been "directing" the refs and media to look at other teams, in the same way that Mourinho and Fergie used to do. Might Leicester have had fewer penalties? More cards?
The old Spurs (well, in the 25 years that I've been a supporter) didn't have that problem -- you can afford to be gentlemanly if all you're going for is the odd cup. But now...would I take a league title in exchange for my club being more tosserish, both on and off the pitch? Probably yes, but it'd lose some of the magic that is Tottenham Hotspur.
At least we're not Chelsea or Emirates Marketing Project.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
What did he say after the game? Can't seem to find any quotes.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Post match interview here :
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10267536/pochettino-proud-of-my-terrific-team
As you'd expect really.
Very dignified towards Leicester.
Disappointed.
Proud of the team, massive potential for the future.
Nice litte dig at the chavs - says we respected them (if that's the respect we give them, lol!) - "we were fighting to win the title, they were fighting to - erm - to win."
Proud of our players and season by the way chelsea treated this game.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
He probably thought there was enough moaning Spurs fans doing that and he does not need excuses.
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
So I've calmed down since yesterday and felt ready to post. Yesterday was a disappointment, and I have no doubts that this team will learn. There is no doubt in my mind that our players were provoked before, throughout and after the match. BUT, I don't want to see our team act like they did at points yesterday and specifically I'm talking about Walker's kick, Dembeles gouge and Lamela's treading on the hand. For me it was about letting the occasion take over you and we played into Chelsea's hands. Without that, their crowd was quiet and despondent. That's the way it should have stayed, but we gave them something to roar about.
Having said all of that, I'm not going to hold that against this very special team. As I have said, they will learn from this experience and I hope that we go on to secure that second place this season. I look at this bunch of players and to a man, I think it is completely reasonable to expect more from them. Add in some players that offer different options and our squad will be better allowing us to perform better. When I look back on the season it is clear to me that the reason why we did not win the league was not what has happened in the last 2 months but rather what happened in the first 2 months. We look a completely different team to that team that started the season. Those draws which could easily have been victories would have been the difference. We can all point to the Saudi Sportswashing Machine game etc.... but there will always be upsets in every season.
So what was it at the beginning of the season? Firstly, I think it was just that we had a young team that was getting used to playing under Poch's system. I also think that losing Dembele was quite pivotal. And then of course there was Kane's lack of goals and the fact that we had no real option aside from him up front. I'd also probably add that Eriksen was not on full form at the beginning of the season either. Point 1 won't be an issue. Points 2, 3 and 4 can be remedied by some clever purchases. Whether it is an old head, a player in his prime or more youngsters, I don't care. I think our scouting is more often than not right so I would have faith that whoever we brought in would be able to do a job.
I am so, so, so, so very proud to be a Spurs supporter. Leicester have done great, and fair play to them. They were the best team. But our team have not reached their potential either on or off the pitch. In Levy, we have arguably the best chairman in the league. In Mitchell and his team, we have one of the best scouting teams. In McDermott, we have one of the best Academy directors in the land. In Poch, we have one of the best managers in the land. In our players, we have one of the best squads in the land. The one common ingredient across all of that is that they all have a lot to prove, and are all relatively young still. That potential is scary. I have the pleasure of working with a number of Chelsea supporters who were full of glee and happiness today. Bothered. I know who I would rather be and who I would rather support. I would not swap our position for anyone else's and that is the GHod honest truth.
A great man once said: "It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory." Bravo that man. Bravo this team. Bravo this club. COYS
Having said all of that, I'm not going to hold that against this very special team. As I have said, they will learn from this experience and I hope that we go on to secure that second place this season. I look at this bunch of players and to a man, I think it is completely reasonable to expect more from them. Add in some players that offer different options and our squad will be better allowing us to perform better. When I look back on the season it is clear to me that the reason why we did not win the league was not what has happened in the last 2 months but rather what happened in the first 2 months. We look a completely different team to that team that started the season. Those draws which could easily have been victories would have been the difference. We can all point to the Saudi Sportswashing Machine game etc.... but there will always be upsets in every season.
So what was it at the beginning of the season? Firstly, I think it was just that we had a young team that was getting used to playing under Poch's system. I also think that losing Dembele was quite pivotal. And then of course there was Kane's lack of goals and the fact that we had no real option aside from him up front. I'd also probably add that Eriksen was not on full form at the beginning of the season either. Point 1 won't be an issue. Points 2, 3 and 4 can be remedied by some clever purchases. Whether it is an old head, a player in his prime or more youngsters, I don't care. I think our scouting is more often than not right so I would have faith that whoever we brought in would be able to do a job.
I am so, so, so, so very proud to be a Spurs supporter. Leicester have done great, and fair play to them. They were the best team. But our team have not reached their potential either on or off the pitch. In Levy, we have arguably the best chairman in the league. In Mitchell and his team, we have one of the best scouting teams. In McDermott, we have one of the best Academy directors in the land. In Poch, we have one of the best managers in the land. In our players, we have one of the best squads in the land. The one common ingredient across all of that is that they all have a lot to prove, and are all relatively young still. That potential is scary. I have the pleasure of working with a number of Chelsea supporters who were full of glee and happiness today. Bothered. I know who I would rather be and who I would rather support. I would not swap our position for anyone else's and that is the GHod honest truth.
A great man once said: "It is better to fail aiming high than to succeed aiming low. And we of Spurs have set our sights very high, so high in fact that even failure will have in it an echo of glory." Bravo that man. Bravo this team. Bravo this club. COYS
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Last night we completed a vital phase...showing we won't be bullied. We will refine the tone, but I want NO let-up in the desire or aggression. Clattenberg could've controlled it, he didn't, we stood up to them and nobody liked it because, well, they weren't used to it. Enough of that!
thfcsteff
George Hunt
The man is a fudging legend.
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Great post.
Bullet
Andy Thompson
I remember us starting the season well, outplaying Man U at Old Trafford, they didn't have a shot on target until Walker poked one in (past Vorm was it?) which was hard to take
Millsy_Yiddo
Naybet
Was saying this the other day. How incredibly 'sexy' (Sorry to use that term!!) is it that in the one year in GHod knows how long, Chelsea, United, Emirates Marketing Project and Arsenal are brick enough for us to win the league Leicester appear from absolutely nowhere and win it!!
Could only happen to us..........
*Edit: I see S.p.u.rsy is now 'sexy' on the autocorrect. I'm not even going to change it you know.
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alekaras
The ITK of IDK
You know what, I'm actually fine with that. I want us to win the league when everyone is having a great season by us having the greater season. That'll truly shut everyone up, especially anyone who would say we were lucky to win because everyone else was brick. And as for Chelski, I would rather beat them at the Bridge when they're good, rather than when they're having a subpar season. We saved it for next year.
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
Granted, but the point total at the start of the season was much lower than at pretty much any other time. Put very simplistically, we hadn't won in the first 4 games, our longest sequence of no wins. I just don't see that happening again with this team as there was an element of them just getting used to a new style.
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
I know everyone is saying this is a young team, but when you have a coach that all the youngsters look up to you would expect his words to carry their weight on the playing field too. Which kinda makes me wonder what kind of pep talk Poch gave the team before the match and at halftime. What I would have expected him to say, especially since we faced similar tactics in the West Brom game is "Play our game, beat them soundly, and make their misery even worse. Focus on the prize." But I have a hunch that wasn't it. I love the guy, but I can't help but place a good portion of the blame on him too.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
This had crossed my mind about Poch as well on Monday. I know he does not tend to publicly criticise players but I did not get the impression he was overly mad at them at all, far from it. Yes he jumped in to prevent Rose getting into a brawl but that was right in front of him and instinctive, and of course he could have had no idea that Clattenburg would let things escalate as much as he did before starting to book players. I think he did psych the players up to play a tough game, to draw on their anger at what the Chelscum players had been saying and to make their mark. Unfortunately it did get a bit out of hand and once you start on a certain course it's easier said than done to pull back from that mindset mid-game. I said earlier that our young players will take a big lesson from this game but hopefully so too will our young manager.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Frankly, anyone who does not think Poch won't refine the edges hasn't paid any attention to how he operates...as for the attitude on Monday, over the line or not at least he knows he does not have to pysche this squad up and that they have each other's back. Sorry, ANYONE who says that Dier's shocker on Fabregas was 'poor'/etc doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever!
SoundAndVision
Michael Brown
Exactly, i loved it. Ive waited my whole life to see us that pumped up for a game.It sickens me thinking back to how soft we were in the past. I love what Poch has done.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
We lost our heads a bit. We looked young and inexperienced at times (because we are). But we didn't roll over and die when the going got tough.
Nothing that has happened at other very big very successful clubs, and with fantastic player. Nothing Pochettino can't, as you say it, refine.
It might not have been a necessary step in our development, but it can certainly be seen as a step in our development. Striking a balance by erring on both sides a couple of times and then learning from those errors.
Dr Rosenrosen
Ramon Vega
"There have been other figures within the game who said that they would prefer Leicester to finish as the champions, including the Swansea City manager, Francesco Guidolin. He said so on the eve of his club’s game at Leicester on 24 April, in which Swansea slumped to a 4-0 defeat. Pochettino believes that all of them have been unprofessional and he wants the issue to be raised and discussed at the next Premier League meeting.
“In football, our responsibility is to be professional,” Pochettino said. “When you are professional, it’s not to give your personal opinion. It’s always dangerous when something happens like that. Maybe in the last few weeks or months, we know the football people who maybe don’t behave like professionals. Maybe, in the next few meetings of the Premier League, the managers and also the staff, we need to say that, in future, we must be careful with all these comments in public.”
Pochettino made the point that he did not want to single out Fabregas and Hazard. “I don’t blame them,” he said. “It’s a general opinion. Sometimes my press conferences are boring because I’m very polite or political. No, I am professional. That’s a big difference. I don’t want to popular. I want to be professional. It’s easy to say big things against our enemy. ‘Oh, the people love me, I’m very strong, so I’ll say things like this.’ Come on! We are professional.
“The managers, the league, the players’ association – they need to say that we must behave professionally. We need to play, be honest and show integrity and be professional always. I like that when our opponent fights and tries to win but, for me, if we want to keep healthy football in the future, and not to be cynical and dishonest, we need to behave in a different way.”
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/tottenham-mousa-dembele-six-game-ban-diego-costa“In football, our responsibility is to be professional,” Pochettino said. “When you are professional, it’s not to give your personal opinion. It’s always dangerous when something happens like that. Maybe in the last few weeks or months, we know the football people who maybe don’t behave like professionals. Maybe, in the next few meetings of the Premier League, the managers and also the staff, we need to say that, in future, we must be careful with all these comments in public.”
Pochettino made the point that he did not want to single out Fabregas and Hazard. “I don’t blame them,” he said. “It’s a general opinion. Sometimes my press conferences are boring because I’m very polite or political. No, I am professional. That’s a big difference. I don’t want to popular. I want to be professional. It’s easy to say big things against our enemy. ‘Oh, the people love me, I’m very strong, so I’ll say things like this.’ Come on! We are professional.
“The managers, the league, the players’ association – they need to say that we must behave professionally. We need to play, be honest and show integrity and be professional always. I like that when our opponent fights and tries to win but, for me, if we want to keep healthy football in the future, and not to be cynical and dishonest, we need to behave in a different way.”