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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

Re: the only fit being Barca. Even then - he was a player and manager for city rivals Espanyol. I think it would take a lot for him to go there too...

Down the road I could also see him enjoying Bayern Munich. But not for a long time.
 
Right now I genuinely wouldn't swap Pochettino for any current manager.

What about you guys though? If Mourinho wanted to come to Spurs? Or Guardiola? Is there anyone out there you'd rather have at the club?
 
Right now I genuinely wouldn't swap Pochettino for any current manager.

What about you guys though? If Mourinho wanted to come to Spurs? Or Guardiola? Is there anyone out there you'd rather have at the club?

I wouldn't swap him for anyone either. He seems a perfect fit for the club and has developed a really good squad that is suited to how he wants to play.
 
I really do not believe he would go elsewhere and I base this solely on the type of guy that he is, what he has said and the manner with which he conducts himself. The man simply oozes class, respect, loyalty humility and hard work. He instils and expects this in his players, so I just cannot see him negating that by betraying those principles which is what he would be doing by going to another club.

I can only see him leaving if he falls out with the club over something. Something that shakes his belief that we are in any way not acting according to those principles that he holds dear. He left Southampton because of what happened with Cortese.

The man does not even have an agent! That says it all with regards to salary and the way that he conducts himself i.e. money is not everything. I would like us to tie him down to a longer, more lucrative contract, but I don't see that being essential to do now just in response to some mischief making in the press. He has already said that he is here for the long term, and he has not lied to us yet.

Do I think he will be here for years to come? Too early to tell.

Would I like him to stay here for years to come? Only if the team continues to improve and results do not deteriorate significantly.

Do I think there is a better manager out there for a club with our means? No. Not at all. He has built this team, he has transformed the mentality of our players and the mentality of our club. He has done this by being incredibly humble, hard working, tactically astute, coaching our players to be better than they were and by managing our players effectively. He has not had a bad word to say about anyone, even Ade, and has not been fined for speaking out of turn in any press conference. The man carries himself so well that to up sticks and join Man United or Chelsea in the middle of his contract would be just so against those principles that I just could not see it happening.
 
Right now I genuinely wouldn't swap Pochettino for any current manager.

What about you guys though? If Mourinho wanted to come to Spurs? Or Guardiola? Is there anyone out there you'd rather have at the club?
I'd be tempted by Guardiola. I really like his brand of football, but in saying that I liked Dortmund under Klopp immensely but now I'd take Poch over him every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

Poch fits our club at it's current state of development like a glove and I really hope he is the dynasty builder type. Chelsea can do one.
 
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I'd be tempted by Guardiola. I really like his brand of football, but in saying that I liked Dortmund under Klopp immensely but now I'd take Poch over him every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

Poch fits our club at it's current state of development like a glove and I really hope he the dynasty builder type. Chelsea can do one.

I think the truly great managers have built dynasties, and I really do believe that is what Poch wants to do.
 
How many players per age group (say 3 years as a cohort just for the sake of it) would have to make it with us for the description of "great youth" to be apt?

Looking at it from a U21 perspective that would include Bentaleb and Onomah already in or around the first team squad. As well as Winks that has been getting in match day squads and cup games. In the same cohort you mention KWP, CCV and maybe Amos... That's a great number of players from one cohort.

If anything Pochettino's excellent work with our great youth players means that we're ahead of the curve. That has left our current U21 squad a bit young and perhaps low on immediate quality compared to some teams. In different circumstances we'd see Onomah and perhaps even Alli/Bentaleb as well as Winks in that U21 team a lot more often and as a team they would be stronger. Pochettino bringing some of these players in "ahead of the curve" isn't a bad thing though.

From what I've read there are some really exciting talents in the next cohort coming through at the club too.

Boy you're quick....I deleted that 1 minute after posting it! ...because it was a bit gonads
 
I think the truly great managers have built dynasties, and I really do believe that is what Poch wants to do.

Do you? How many great managers in this country have left a team that have been as/or more successful under their successors? I'd have to go back to Liverpool pre-Dalglish (first time) to think of an example.
 
Why would he leave a top 4 club to manage a team languishing in the bottom half of the table :D

Seriously though its almost as if the press have to try to derail any good Spurs season, first "Redknapp for England" now "Poch for Chelsea" its almost laughable.
 
He went from So'ton to us though, didn't he? I'm not going to get paranoid, but loyalty in modern football, you say? It's a fantasy. Doesn't exist anymore.

But of course there's always the occasional exception to every rule.

That bloke down the road, curse him. When he took over Woolwich they were pretty much on a par with us. We went one way, they went the other, now we're playing catch-up and hoping Poch can be our Wenger.
 
He left Southampton after they showed no loyalty to the man hpwho brought him in

Right now we're at the right position for Poch and he is right for us. He has a genuine affinity with the players and seems to have the same with the board. It's a fine balance but at the moment it's spot on

When the bumps arrive it's how we ALL react that's important. One thing spurs fans are bad at isn't start reaction and negativity... We love the highs but don't accept the lows.

Poch is earning a lot of credit and kudos and we have to let him have that in the bank for when the sticky stuff hits for what ever reason

He speaks a lot about a dynasty and make no is take the new ground gives him and the other member if the club a massive carrot to look forward too

I also look at the type of coach he is and he really would only suit (at the moment) a progressive club. The likes of Madrid and united just aren't that for example. There all about the here and now and immediate gratification. Munich are going that way too. The only top calibre club a the I think would suit him is Barca
 
He is already a relatively long serving Spurs manager!

I can clearly see the full five years panning out to include the transition to a new stadium and the full expression of this group of players' potential. After which we maybe a club with a completely different outlook - Poch's legacy.
 
I wouldn't swap him for anyone either. He seems a perfect fit for the club and has developed a really good squad that is suited to how he wants to play.

Agree completely.

Sometimes I think too much is made of the overall quality of a manager/head coach. As if they could be given a score between 1 and 100 and wherever they go that's the performance they'll put in for the club. If manager X is a 89 and manager Y only a 75 then X is better than Y type thinking.

How well someone like Pochettino fits in at a club is crucial. Have to say again that Cortese (either through luck or skill) made a fantastic appointment when he went for him at Southampton as he was a very good fit there too, with much less information available than when he was signed for us. Had Pochettino been signed by a different English club he could easily have failed and been sent out of England with no reputation at all as another "failed foreign manager that didn't even speak the language and was never going to work out".

Swapping someone that we know works, that we know is a great fit for someone with all of the uncertainty of a new manager to me wouldn't make sense. Not with how brilliantly Poch has done so far.
 
Panic over, Chelsea have a new shortlist.


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It's hilarious it really is.

In any other business, the hiring strategy would be, 'this is our strategy for the business, this is our strategy for the function, in order to achieve this, we need a person with these characteristics'.

When Levy got Poch, he clearly did something similar. 'This is our standing financially. These are our strengths. This is how we can compete. Let's find someone that can operate well in this environment'.

It seems like Chelsea's board is just going 'errrrrm what about Simeone? He's won trophies! But what about Pep!? He's really cool! But look what Ranieri has achieved with Leceister!'

With absolutely no consideration of the type of club they want to be and who they need to carry out their strategy. Personally I think Ancelotti was perfect for them. They have lots of money. They want to spend it on high profile players. He's a coach not too wedded to a system or philosophy but lets good players play and gains their respect.

'But what about Mark Hughes!? He played here once!'
 
From the BBC's daily live blog...

"Bad news for Spurs fans waiting on the latest team news - manager Mauricio Pochettino is ill, so today's news conference has been cancelled."

EDIT: Source (see 11:55)
 
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