SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
Indeed, if Poch can get us to around the 70 point mark that would match the best tallies under Redknapp and AVB and should be enough to get us back in the CL.
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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
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LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
Poch deserves massive credit for starting Carroll today. Played really well against Monaco. Seems to have picked a bit of pace recently the lad and such a good passer of the ball and he can finish.
Well done Poch.
Well done Poch.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
AVB's side in the 2012/13 season did really well in the final quarter of the season and AVB does deserve credit for that. But we won many points because of Gareth Bale creating and scoring goals out of nothing. This takes the pressure off the rest of the team in terms of creating goal scoring opportunities which in turn means they can conserve energy. Nothing wrong with that system but it needed a special player to keep it going. Once that player goes it becomes harder to execute. Poch's system is much less reliant on a "special" player and much more team based. It could lead to players being more tired by the last quarter of the season, we will have to see. But in the absence of a Bale type player I think it is a better fit for Spurs.
GrimsbyYid
Gus Poyet
Pooch deserves massive credit for starting carroll today?!?! I'm not just saying it with hindsight, only just seeing it, but Poch starting Carroll was the most fudging idiotic decision he's made since his string of idiotic decisions last season. It brought back all the feelings of last season of being angered by Poch. Carroll is a terrible player (he makes me wish Mason was fit, that's how bad i think he is). As soon as I saw he started I said we could struggle today, and we did, for EXACTLY the reasons that payed out (hate being right!). That with Carroll we couldn't assert ourselves, he's so staggering weak, so positional poor, so sloppy; that his inclusion would make the show team lack cohesion, and slowly give confidence to Saudi Sportswashing Machine. EXACTLY what happened.
fudging credit! It was the single decision we lost today, we were awful and disjointed and even though he came off the damage was done - sloppiness had spread and Saudi Sportswashing Machine knew it was possible!!!
While I'm at it, why the fudge does he keep playing Rose ahead of Davies, who looked great earlier int he season. Rose is consistently our weakest player!!
fudging credit! It was the single decision we lost today, we were awful and disjointed and even though he came off the damage was done - sloppiness had spread and Saudi Sportswashing Machine knew it was possible!!!
While I'm at it, why the fudge does he keep playing Rose ahead of Davies, who looked great earlier int he season. Rose is consistently our weakest player!!
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Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Poch fudges up rotation in two Europa games we didn't need to win.
A loss against Qarabag and a draw against Monaco would have sent us through in second on 8 points above Monaco and Qarabag on 7. We look knackered in the last few games.
But Grimsby puts the entire blame on another youth academy midfielder that likes to try things.
We were 1-0 up when he came off.
No mention of Dier looking fudged?
No mention of Vertonghen, Alderweireld and Lloris unable to deal with any set piece crosses all season. Do we work on that?
If Poch wants to play this style of play in the premier league he needs to learn how to rotate his players.
Hopefully we will get that in time. Hopefully he'll still be here in 3 seasons time and we will be successful.
But in the meantime there is nothing wrong with some positive criticism.
He's doing an awful of thing rights even though our results are pretty poor.
And they are.
We're 26 points from 16 league games.
AVB was sacked after 16 league games with 27 points in 2013/14.
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
@SpursOfficial
Mauricio: "We need to assess the game and understand what happened. We lost easy balls and gave them chances."
"Our first half was fantastic but it's difficult to know why the second half was different."
"We always need to learn and work hard. In football sometimes it's difficult to explain."
Mauricio: "We need to assess the game and understand what happened. We lost easy balls and gave them chances."
"Our first half was fantastic but it's difficult to know why the second half was different."
"We always need to learn and work hard. In football sometimes it's difficult to explain."
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
At least he admits we were utterly, comprehensively sh*te. Although he doesn't know why we were sh*te, and to be fair, I don't think I do either. The only possible explanations are a terrible mentality and the curse of Spursiness coming back to haunt a side who till now were considered distinctly un-sexy.
Your opinions and bias are often disgraceful. Calm down Rose had a good game today so why the hell are you picking this up. You come across a very angry man
I agree with part of that - the most obvious reason was that everyone thought 'its Saudi Sportswashing Machine, they're brick and we're unbeaten in 14'. Everyone will pock on Carroll, who I agree was poor, but Lamela from half time, Eriksen and Kane were quiet and Alli barely did a think right.
milo
Jack L. Jones
I don't think he should say in public what he thinks went wrong, even if he does know at this stage.
With regards to "a terrible mentality and the curse of Spursiness", we have not seen much of either this season and one bad game does not change that. If we were offered where we are now at the beginning of the season, most of us would have taken it.
Poch fudges up rotation in two Europa games we didn't need to win.
A loss against Qarabag and a draw against Monaco would have sent us through in second on 8 points above Monaco and Qarabag on 7. We look knackered in the last few games.
But Grimsby puts the entire blame on another youth academy midfielder that likes to try things.
We were 1-0 up when he came off.
No mention of Dier looking fudgeed?
No mention of Vertonghen, Alderweireld and Lloris unable to deal with any set piece crosses all season. Do we work on that?
If Poch wants to play this style of play in the premier league he needs to learn how to rotate his players.
Hopefully we will get that in time. Hopefully he'll still be here in 3 seasons time and we will be successful.
But in the meantime there is nothing wrong with some positive criticism.
He's doing an awful of thing rights even though our results are pretty poor.
And they are.
We're 26 points from 16 league games.
AVB was sacked after 16 league games with 27 points in 2013/14.
Agree on Grimsby but the league is wide open this year so point comparison is not a worthwhile exercise. Also our play and goal difference say it all - ️AVB setus back years with his player acquisition, ideas and tactics
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Depends on your perspective. I saw it against West Brom, and against Anderlecht away: the same initial profligacy, succeeded by a growing struggle to hang on against a side which outran and outpassed us with ease. I've seen it before, and, after a welcome end to that phenomenon last season (famous as it was for our late goals), I'm seeing it again now.
I think the 'hanging on' bit today was partly because in the second half we were pretty clueless going forwards. I don't think any of Kane, Alli, Eriksen, Dier or Carroll were at all good today, and Lamela was only decent for the first half. And if you don't impose yourself on the opposition then there is a risk that they'll come back at you. Today it seemed that when we were 1-0, we were aiming to win solely on the basis that Saudi Sportswashing Machine at brick rather than by us going and beating them
Really disappointing so hoping that its really hurting the players
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
This. I hope it shocked the lads that we're not nearly as good as we seem to think we are, and that brick sides like Saudi Sportswashing Machine can actually roll us over with ease if we switch off like we did today.
milo
Jack L. Jones
There isn't a team in the world that plays well in all of its games. If that is where we are setting the bar then we will always end up being disappointed.
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markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
So would you be if you came from Grimsby
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
No, but a reasonable expectation of a good side, or one with pretensions of being better than most in the richest league in the world, is to not be outplayed, outthought and outfought by teams lower in the chain three times before the fatigue of the January-February schedule has even had a chance to appear, and with no real reason to suffer such complacency. Later on in the season, it becomes understandable: early on, when we should theoretically be at our peak both physically and mentally, it is a bit concerning.
We haven't, and won't, shake off the Spursiness inherent in our very beings until we overcome that: if we do it in spurts like we did at the start of 2009-2010 and through the first half of 2011-2012, as well as at times during our now-dead 14 match unbeaten run, it doesn't mean we've killed it off forever, because, as the first two examples show...it does come back. Last season, all the late goals showed me that we kept our concentration and fitness up for the entirety of the game: it became such a trope that even commentators and pundits (those professions infused by general dimness) routinely picked up on it. Have we lost that this season?
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
We're 26 points from 16 league games.
AVB was sacked after 16 league games with 27 points in 2013/14.
AVB was never as bad as people like to think he was. Poch's results this season haven't been as good as people like to imagine they are. AVB got stuffed by the big teams in between routinely grinding out points against the lesser sides (and that too only in 2013/2014: we whalloped United, City and Arsenal in 12/13). Poch is now suffering a squall where the smaller sides are drawing our sting and leaving us laboured and without ideas.
The difference is perhaps that AVB's league was more competitive at the top, whereas this league is just flat-out competitive all around. Still, it's never a good idea to blame the opposition for our own failings.