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Jimmy McCormick
Re: Official - Lamela
But the Journo has an agenda against Tottenham according to people on here 2 weeks ago
But the Journo has an agenda against Tottenham according to people on here 2 weeks ago
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I liked Erik Lamela before it was cool
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Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: Official - Lamela
See, I think different. I have yet to see him be barged or bullied off the ball. He seems to have impeccable balance.
See, I think different. I have yet to see him be barged or bullied off the ball. He seems to have impeccable balance.
ALtottenham_hotspur
Jamie Redknapp
Re: Official - Lamela
I agree looks like Bales build when he first got into the team, if Lamela bulks up a bit over the summary it would help his game no end
I agree looks like Bales build when he first got into the team, if Lamela bulks up a bit over the summary it would help his game no end
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
Re: Official - Lamela
you are kidding. didnt you watch the Emirates Marketing Project game? they dusted him off quite a few times and that isnt even an exagerration
you are kidding. didnt you watch the Emirates Marketing Project game? they dusted him off quite a few times and that isnt even an exagerration
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Re: Official - Lamela
Nice quotes from the manager...
On another note I could tell that was a Guardian article from the first paragraph. For a supposed 'quality' newspaper they do like to make everything seem sensational in their own little way, and all of their writers seem to want to prove how smart they are - or how stupid their readers are - with over explaining who person in the story is. It's not a big thing but it really gets on my tits, it's a much more annoying writing style than Telegraph or Times for me.
Nice quotes from the manager...
On another note I could tell that was a Guardian article from the first paragraph. For a supposed 'quality' newspaper they do like to make everything seem sensational in their own little way, and all of their writers seem to want to prove how smart they are - or how stupid their readers are - with over explaining who person in the story is. It's not a big thing but it really gets on my tits, it's a much more annoying writing style than Telegraph or Times for me.
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Jimmy McCormick
Re: Official - Lamela
Most of the die hard 'trust in AVB' lot have repressed any memories of that game completely.
Most of the die hard 'trust in AVB' lot have repressed any memories of that game completely.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
Re: Official - Lamela
and rightly they should. That game was a total blip. its actually a game i think people should ignore when making a judgement about him.
You cant really use games like that to base an opinion on someone.....total mutation of a result compared to how our team has played all season
but people are makinu stuff up literally when they say lamela hasnt been getting bossed off the ball all season in tussle of the muscles scenarios
and rightly they should. That game was a total blip. its actually a game i think people should ignore when making a judgement about him.
You cant really use games like that to base an opinion on someone.....total mutation of a result compared to how our team has played all season
but people are makinu stuff up literally when they say lamela hasnt been getting bossed off the ball all season in tussle of the muscles scenarios
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Jimmy McCormick
Re: Official - Lamela
Well they are actively targeting the US and Australia now, moving from .co.uk to a .com and with separate US and Australian editions.
Well they are actively targeting the US and Australia now, moving from .co.uk to a .com and with separate US and Australian editions.
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Re: Official - Lamela
I agree with you on this particular observation. I agree with Mumorn on his general point though, Lamela looks fairly strong/strong enough.
Although he has been barged off the ball a few times he's also shown some very good strength and balance in several situations where he's been under pressure. Like one of his runs against Fulham where he kept ahead of one of their midfielders on one of his runs through the middle.
Second point, how strong should we expect and want a player like that to be? Plenty of excellent attacking midfielders that are rather lightweight and several that have succeeded in the Premier League. They do get barged off the ball, particularly by some top notch defensive midfielders with pace and power, but they find enough space with clever movement, great touches, vision, outright skill, balance and quickness to do real damage.
For most players, with the exception in part of those with a seemingly almost superhuman physique like Bale, bulking up comes at a cost to acceleration and agility at least if not other physical attributes as well. To me Lamela "just" has to get used to the Premier League, some players to get a bit stronger in their early twenties naturally, but it shouldn't be focus.
I agree with you on this particular observation. I agree with Mumorn on his general point though, Lamela looks fairly strong/strong enough.
Although he has been barged off the ball a few times he's also shown some very good strength and balance in several situations where he's been under pressure. Like one of his runs against Fulham where he kept ahead of one of their midfielders on one of his runs through the middle.
Second point, how strong should we expect and want a player like that to be? Plenty of excellent attacking midfielders that are rather lightweight and several that have succeeded in the Premier League. They do get barged off the ball, particularly by some top notch defensive midfielders with pace and power, but they find enough space with clever movement, great touches, vision, outright skill, balance and quickness to do real damage.
For most players, with the exception in part of those with a seemingly almost superhuman physique like Bale, bulking up comes at a cost to acceleration and agility at least if not other physical attributes as well. To me Lamela "just" has to get used to the Premier League, some players to get a bit stronger in their early twenties naturally, but it shouldn't be focus.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: Official - Lamela
They crowded him out for sure. But lets not make him out to be some weak guy. I've also seen Bale knocked off the ball easily (against Leeds in the FA Cup last year, yes Leeds). I have no doubt confidence also has something to do with it, not saying confidence will give you strength, but he's not taking control of his game, when youre in control, have the ball with confidence, you will glide past players, using balance as your strength. We have only really seen that against Sheriff when his confidence was sky high.
They crowded him out for sure. But lets not make him out to be some weak guy. I've also seen Bale knocked off the ball easily (against Leeds in the FA Cup last year, yes Leeds). I have no doubt confidence also has something to do with it, not saying confidence will give you strength, but he's not taking control of his game, when youre in control, have the ball with confidence, you will glide past players, using balance as your strength. We have only really seen that against Sheriff when his confidence was sky high.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
Re: Official - Lamela
they didnt crowd him out...they stuck a finger out and the went in the opposite direction...people cant do much with getting crowded out...but when you have position and a simple fore arm takes you out then you got brushed
sheriff? really? in many ways that game probably did that boy more harm than good
but i agree about confidence , it seeps into everything you do and affects everything you do. he might be suffering from that, infact i think he probably is..he doesnt play like a confident / ambitious type......and i dont think it takes much right now to knock him back a bit
he'll be fine when people get off his case as being the next maradona and just accept him as a top class first 11 team player. Then he'll do his role and then contribute great stats wise and have great moments with other , hopfefully, like minded technical team players
they didnt crowd him out...they stuck a finger out and the went in the opposite direction...people cant do much with getting crowded out...but when you have position and a simple fore arm takes you out then you got brushed
sheriff? really? in many ways that game probably did that boy more harm than good
but i agree about confidence , it seeps into everything you do and affects everything you do. he might be suffering from that, infact i think he probably is..he doesnt play like a confident / ambitious type......and i dont think it takes much right now to knock him back a bit
he'll be fine when people get off his case as being the next maradona and just accept him as a top class first 11 team player. Then he'll do his role and then contribute great stats wise and have great moments with other , hopfefully, like minded technical team players
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
Re: Official - Lamela
Did anyone see the extended highlights of the Fulham game on sky?
Lamella looked much improved and ran with the ball a lot in a direct manner
He was avoiding challenges well and played really positively
He looked a lot like Bale dare I say it but without any obvious confidence and that's a good sign and that's something you can fix
Their is pressure on him and it doesn't help to have clowns like Jamie (I hate. Spurs cos hey sacked my dad) Redknapp talk about his fee and how little he has achieved. The lad doesn't decide the fee and he was one of the best players in his league last season by a long way. He has been here for 4 months and is learning the language
It's no coincidence that AVB is sticking up for him and giving him time as he sees the ability he has
Did anyone see the extended highlights of the Fulham game on sky?
Lamella looked much improved and ran with the ball a lot in a direct manner
He was avoiding challenges well and played really positively
He looked a lot like Bale dare I say it but without any obvious confidence and that's a good sign and that's something you can fix
Their is pressure on him and it doesn't help to have clowns like Jamie (I hate. Spurs cos hey sacked my dad) Redknapp talk about his fee and how little he has achieved. The lad doesn't decide the fee and he was one of the best players in his league last season by a long way. He has been here for 4 months and is learning the language
It's no coincidence that AVB is sticking up for him and giving him time as he sees the ability he has
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
Re: Official - Lamela
the fulham game did have quite a few OAPs compared to him. you would hope he cold ghost past those type of players at least
the fulham game did have quite a few OAPs compared to him. you would hope he cold ghost past those type of players at least
Bedfordspurs
Vinnie Samways
Re: Official - Lamela
But they were trying to take him out almost and he dealt with it. Great learning curve that game for me
But they were trying to take him out almost and he dealt with it. Great learning curve that game for me
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
Re: Official - Lamela
agreed, i thought he did well in that game considering the season he has had.
agreed, i thought he did well in that game considering the season he has had.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: Official - Lamela
The guy knows absolute **** all, it's amazing that he's employed as a pundit but it doesn't surprise me coming from Sky.
Imagine if he COULD get into the national team ahead of Aguero, Messi, Higuain, di Maria etc.
The guy knows absolute **** all, it's amazing that he's employed as a pundit but it doesn't surprise me coming from Sky.
Imagine if he COULD get into the national team ahead of Aguero, Messi, Higuain, di Maria etc.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
Re: Official - Lamela
why is he competing with higuain and aguero? wouldnt he be in the midfield spot?
why is he competing with higuain and aguero? wouldnt he be in the midfield spot?
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Re: Official - Lamela
They have to fit those in. Usually wide positions.
Plus, Lamela has been called up to Argentinas last 4 or so games and has played in all of them, so once again its just stupid lack of knowledge by a shocking pundit.
They have to fit those in. Usually wide positions.
Plus, Lamela has been called up to Argentinas last 4 or so games and has played in all of them, so once again its just stupid lack of knowledge by a shocking pundit.