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parklane1 said:
And one of the reasons ( not the only one) that ^rent a quote" was sacked is that he was angling behind Levys back to get the England job. Levy found out and took the action he did. The laugh is /was that " rent a quote" never had a hope/chance of getting the England job as the FA knew what a disaster that would have been and would never had done it.
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Wasn't that subtle either
 

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Finney Is Back said:
I absolutely know that Poch had asked for Grealish (and also Sessegnon). He knew Eriksen wanted to leave and wanted Grealish for a year to understudy so that he could let Eriksen go a year later (was same with Sessegnon and Rose). Poch was angry when the club failed to get Grealish for him, as the deal was easy to do for a fair fee. Interestingly enough Pochettino was also interested in Maddison from Norwich. Leicester got their bid in quick and we let them have him as Grealish was Pochettino's top target.
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We also wanted him at Coventry too
But I’m a bit stumped by the grealish link to signing a CM
 
Grays_1890 said:
Wasn't that subtle either
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tickle my balls with a feather, i was still working/coaching through the FA at the time and he had no chance of getting the England job. Rightly or wrongly ( rightly im my opinion) they were never going to employ a chancer like " rent a quote" and all the baggage he was carrying around.
 
parklane1 said:
And one of the reasons ( not the only one) that ^rent a quote" was sacked is that he was angling behind Levys back to get the England job. Levy found out and took the action he did. The laugh is /was that " rent a quote" never had a hope/chance of getting the England job as the FA knew what a disaster that would have been and would never had done it.
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I think Redknapp would've done a far better job managing England than Hodgson.
 
Finney Is Back said:
I blame him for both. Appointing him was a nonsense. Sacking him just before he had a chance to do the one thing he is actually good at (winning finals) was equally as nonsensical.
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The players had stopped playing for him and downed tools, no way we had a chance in hell winning that final with him in charge, imo of course.
 
DaveT316 said:
The players had stopped playing for him and downed tools, no way we had a chance in hell winning that final with him in charge, imo of course.
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His record in finals tells us that we were likely to have a bigger chance than we did under Ryan Mason. I never wanted us to appoint Mourinho and wanted the club to sack him a long while before they did. However the timing of that sacking was farcical. I don't see how anyone could say it wasn't and keep a straight face.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Jol got us to Europe a few times (when we'd been out of European competition for a while) and then got sacked the moment it looked like we might miss europe.
Ramos won the only trophy of the ENIC ownership era and got sacked early the following season.
Redknapp got sacked after Chelsea won the CL, relegating us to the Europa League.
AVB should never have been employed in the first place I agree, unfortunately though Levy fell for his sexy powerpoint presentation where each new slide came in spinning around or something!... Once he was in the door though he was allowed to miss CL the first season and then sacked when it appeared he would do so the second season.
Pochettino got he sack when it looked like we might not make the CL for a 4th consecutive time (way to go on that one Levy!)
Mourinho got the sack just before a Cup Final, the one thing that history told us he was really good at negotiating successfully, because he wanted to rest his best players in midweek before the game to give us the best possible chance of winning the Cup final. Levy sacked him as he still clung to the idea that we might scrape 4th place.
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Jol got sacked because fans had been calling for it for ages saying 'he's taken us as far as he can'.
Ramos got sacked because we were in freefall and flirting with relegation.
Redknapp got sacked for flirting with the FA and neglecting Spurs. As soon as he realised he wasn't getting the England job, he demanded a new contract and backing from Levy, and Levy doesn't get played like that.
AVB got sacked because Bale left and his lack of ability was exposed.
Pochettino got sacked because he'd lost the dressing room/will to carry on (delete as appropriate).
Mourinho got sacked because fans had been calling for it for ages, as poor results had stopped people tolerating him.

I'd say the only one who got sacked because of a lack of CL qualification was Jol, all the others were down to 'this can't be fixed' (except for Redknapp who tried to take Levy for a fool) rather than what they had qualified for the season before.
 
Finney Is Back said:
His record in finals tells us that we were likely to have a bigger chance than we did under Ryan Mason. I never wanted us to appoint Mourinho and wanted the club to sack him a long while before they did. However the timing of that sacking was farcical. I don't see how anyone could say it wasn't and keep a straight face.
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Questionable, debatable, but not farcical.

I genuinely felt we had a better chance with Mason as he had the players - I take he had mere days with them, but hey, a lot less time to do the same damage Mourinho had done to them! - and Mourinho appeared to have lost the vast majority of them.

If only Mourinho could’ve picked 11 of him, we undoubtedly would’ve won, but finals are played by players, not managers, and often decided in moments, our very own CL final a good example of this.
 
DaveT316 said:
Questionable, debatable, but not farcical.

I genuinely felt we had a better chance with Mason as he had the players - I take he had mere days with them, but hey, a lot less time to do the same damage Mourinho had done to them! - and Mourinho appeared to have lost the vast majority of them.

If only Mourinho could’ve picked 11 of him, we undoubtedly would’ve won, but finals are played by players, not managers, and often decided in moments, our very own CL final a good example of this.
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We had 0 chance with Mason. Ffs [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
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A final with negative odds is something Jose has specialised in winning in his time. Now I also never thought he should have been hired in the first place, but once you've gone for him comitt at least.


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We had zero chance with Jose, we were playing like absoloute brick at the time were in for a hiding. The only question over his sacking is why it wasn't done sooner.
 
DaveT316 said:
Questionable, debatable, but not farcical.

I genuinely felt we had a better chance with Mason as he had the players - I take he had mere days with them, but hey, a lot less time to do the same damage Mourinho had done to them! - and Mourinho appeared to have lost the vast majority of them.

If only Mourinho could’ve picked 11 of him, we undoubtedly would’ve won, but finals are played by players, not managers, and often decided in moments, our very own CL final a good example of this.
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I would love to know the stats of the number of teams who have sacked their manager in the same week that they were due to play a cup final.
 
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Finney Is Back said:
Interesting that no other PL teams seem to think that is the right way to go about things?.... Even the ones who have won the league the previous season!

Why would Poch agree to taking Tielemens on loan when he had made a completely acceptable request to get the very gettable Jack Grealish on a permanent deal?
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completely different players, one is a brick DM, the other a brick winger
 
Finney Is Back said:
I would love to know the stats of how many trams have sacked their manager in the same week that they were due to play a cup final.
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Well everyones new favourite saviour of football QSI sacked their first PSG manager when clear at the top for a sexy name in Carlo Ancellotti and guess what....They came second

But yeh....Enic
 
billyiddo said:
We had zero chance with Jose, we were playing like absoloute brick at the time were in for a hiding. The only question over his sacking is why it wasn't done sooner.
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The football by that point was dire, people conflating final records at inform, superstar laden clubs like Real, Inter and Chelsea are not really comparing apples with apples here.

We were utterly dogmuck by that point, yes we lost the final but Mason was a huge improvement on Jose and Bale sparked back into life, so I can totally get sacking him, he was a macaron
 
Finney Is Back said:
His record in finals tells us that we were likely to have a bigger chance than we did under Ryan Mason. I never wanted us to appoint Mourinho and wanted the club to sack him a long while before they did. However the timing of that sacking was farcical. I don't see how anyone could say it wasn't and keep a straight face.
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he sacked Graham before a semi with the arse too
 
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