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Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/

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scaramanga said:
What about taking the correct preventative medicine and staying within protective netting? That's entirely possible.
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And still 300-500 million people get malaria every year and 1,5-2,5 million people die from it..... So all those people are just stupid then?
 
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Kandi1977 said:
And still 300-500 million people get malaria every year and 1,5-2,5 million people die from it..... So all those people are just stupid then?
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The vast majority of those people don't have access to the resources that Ade does.

There's literally no relevance between those suffering from the Malaria epidemic due to poverty and a very, very rich footballer choosing to go to Africa and not ensuring that he is protected.
 
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Scara: I was under the impression that no malaria vaccine is 100% effective, am I wrong?

Also, I thought in this case it was malaria flaring up as it stays in your body and is liable to do that from time to time. It's not like he went to Africa on a mosquito safari this summer, do we actually know when he first got it?

Either this was an excuse to not include him in the US pre-season as we're trying to get rid, in which case you should be happy. Or his malaria flared up, was caught early and treated quickly with relatively little impact and Ade is now back, in which case you probably aren't happy - but I don't quite see how this means that Ade deserves any blame for this.
 
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scaramanga said:
The vast majority of those people don't have access to the resources that Ade does.

There's literally no relevance between those suffering from the Malaria epidemic due to poverty and a very, very rich footballer choosing to go to Africa and not ensuring that he is protected.
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To be fair, it has happened to Drogba and Toure too.
 
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braineclipse said:
Scara: I was under the impression that no malaria vaccine is 100% effective, am I wrong?

Also, I thought in this case it was malaria flaring up as it stays in your body and is liable to do that from time to time. It's not like he went to Africa on a mosquito safari this summer, do we actually know when he first got it?

Either this was an excuse to not include him in the US pre-season as we're trying to get rid, in which case you should be happy. Or his malaria flared up, was caught early and treated quickly with relatively little impact and Ade is now back, in which case you probably aren't happy - but I don't quite see how this means that Ade deserves any blame for this.
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The combination of anti-malarial drugs (there's no vaccine yet, but we're very close) and nets, combined with some other fairly simple precautions are so close to being 100% I think it's safe to call it that. And let's assume it's not zoonotic or shared needle malaria, or else we have bigger issues.

One way or another, Ade failed to take the proper precautions at some point and we as a club are paying the price of it.

It's interesting that you mention blame. A couple of years ago I upgraded our personnel software at work and it had some fairly complex absence reporting functions. A handful of people who were known for always being absent hadn't really had anything that stood out as fake and nothing where you could really place some fault, but those same people were always the ones taking time off. They were also the same ones that we keep away from new employees (so as to not infect them with their poor attitudes), who are most likely to be 'union types' and do the smallest amount of work they can get away with. Some people are just bad employees - Ade reminds me of them.
 
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imcallingbullsh*t said:
So long time lurker and dont post basically as i cant be bothered to argue or be belittled. However im callling bu*****
So i went backpacking for a year last year including a stint through africa, was on all the anti-malarials, took precautions with netting etc.
Still got malaria, still 1year on suffering side effects as i didnt get treated immediately.

Now i guarantee Adebayor will be fine having quick and very good access to best medical facilities, but to go around with statements like "Malaria is an entirely avoidable disease." shows a complete lack of knowledge!
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What do you mean by "took precautions with netting, etc"?

How much precaution did you take? Can you honestly tell me that you couldn't have spent any more time inside a net? You mention that you were backpacking - were you outside of a net after dark socialising with people? I assume you didn't have an en-suite bathroom, what precautions did you take when you got up to take a ****? Did you wear long sleeves and trouser legs? Cover your entire body with mosquito repellant?

Now imagine you're a multi-million pound asset with almost limitless access to money/support and think it over again.

It also seems you have managed to contract gapyearitis. Don't worry though, it's entirely curable - just repeat the following to yourself and you'll be fine:

Seeing the world ≠ knowledge
 
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scaramanga said:
Who should also have been capable of avoiding it.
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We don 't know what precautions those three players did or didn't take. We do know that there is no 100% way of avoiding it, even if you take every precaution.

In short, I wouldn't say that a person's attitude is a reason they caught malaria. :lol:
 
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@Scaramanga: Have you ever had the flu? I suspect you have. But You should have been able to avoid it, as it's about as easily avoidable as malaria.....
 
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the dza said:
We don 't know what precautions those three players did or didn't take. We do know that there is no 100% way of avoiding it, even if you take every precaution.

In short, I wouldn't say that a person's attitude is a reason they caught malaria. :lol:
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It's close enough to 100% that we can discount the alternative as so unlikely it's pretty much impossible.

I'd say that it's almost entirely down to a person's attitude and how much they value their health (assuming we're not talking about poverty-stricken Africans here). Most people don't want to stay under a net from dusk until dawn. Most people don't want to cover their arms and legs in daytime heat. Most people like to wear perfumed deodorant or aftershave. Most people won't spend the time ensuring every inch of their skin is covered in repellant. Most people don't like the smell of citronella candles, etc etc.

More than anything, people realise about two weeks too late that they should have already been taking anti-malaria tablets before their trip.

That's fine if you're some gap-year **** who was probably only going to work at Tesco when they get back from spending their parents' money. It's not fine if you're a multi-million pound asset of our club.
 
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Kandi1977 said:
@Scaramanga: Have you ever had the flu? I suspect you have. But You should have been able to avoid it, as it's about as easily avoidable as malaria.....
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The two aren't even remotely similar. Please try and have at least a little knowledge/understanding of both if you want to engage me in debate about them.

If you want more info on either, just ask - I'll be happy to help.
 
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Most people that are from malaria affected countries don't take precautions actually. I know loads of people that grew up in India for instance and they don't get tablets when they go back to affected areas.
 
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scaramanga said:
It's close enough to 100% that we can discount the alternative as so unlikely it's pretty much impossible.

I'd say that it's almost entirely down to a person's attitude and how much they value their health (assuming we're not talking about poverty-stricken Africans here). Most people don't want to stay under a net from dusk until dawn. Most people don't want to cover their arms and legs in daytime heat. Most people like to wear perfumed deodorant or aftershave. Most people won't spend the time ensuring every inch of their skin is covered in repellant. Most people don't like the smell of citronella candles, etc etc.

More than anything, people realise about two weeks too late that they should have already been taking anti-malaria tablets before their trip.

That's fine if you're some gap-year **** who was probably only going to work at Tesco when they get back from spending their parents' money. It's not fine if you're a multi-million pound asset of our club.
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And you have knowitallitis im far too old to be a gap year **** - or to get involved with keyboard warriors... / Realises why i don't both posting it here
 
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braineclipse said:
Scara: I was under the impression that no malaria vaccine is 100% effective, am I wrong?

Also, I thought in this case it was malaria flaring up as it stays in your body and is liable to do that from time to time. It's not like he went to Africa on a mosquito safari this summer, do we actually know when he first got it?

Either this was an excuse to not include him in the US pre-season as we're trying to get rid, in which case you should be happy. Or his malaria flared up, was caught early and treated quickly with relatively little impact and Ade is now back, in which case you probably aren't happy - but I don't quite see how this means that Ade deserves any blame for this.
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The voice of reason. As usual.

But some will find any possible stick to beat the player they don't like with. Even crazy non football reasons.
 
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As somebody that has lived in Nigeria and taken precautions and still contracted malaria, and who knows people that have gone to Nigeria and also taken precautions and also contracted malaria I must say Scara is coming across as rather ignorant and uninformed in this thread.
 
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