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Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/

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it's highly likely my knowledge is lacking here as it's all second hand from my wife, but as I understand it malaria is something that once you get it you never really get rid of it, but, if you take your meds it's controlled
 
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I think Scara is half right, is malaria generally an entirely avoidable disease? no, is it an entirely avoidable disease to a 200k a week professional footballer, undoubtedly

you want to see your family, spend a days wages and fly them to you
That's pretty much what I meant. It's obviously terrible for those without the means to deal with it, but somebody with Ade's access to medicine/equipment/staff/etc needs to do better.

I also agree about the family bit - the money we pay him he could fly half of Togo over.
 
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Who knows when he contracted it though.
I don't see any news reports before this summer. If it's newsworthy now it would have been newsworthy before.

It was also described (without correction) and him having contracted it. I think the wording would be different if it was an existing condition flaring up.
 
Sacra, where I lived in Nigeria the following is the average temp from Jan - Dec in Fahrenheit

81.183.883.782.681.179.377.977.778.479.581.180.6

It actually averages out at 80.6 not 76F
I get that it's hot. I'm also pretty sure that the anti-malaria charities knew it's hot when they came up with the advice for tourists to cover arms and legs.

If that's the level of precaution recommended for tourists it needs to be even greater for expensive assets.

I bet if we'd paid him SSP for the duration of the tour he missed he'd take a different approach in future.
 
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100% agree! I'd be more concerned at verts crowdsurfing which he has far more control over! But people forget players are people however much they are paid and if u gave any player 2million extra a week if doesn't mean they become messi! It's not football manager unfortunately!
I'm surprised to hear that. If true, then any resultant injury would have me making the same comments here about Verts.
 
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I don't see any news reports before this summer. If it's newsworthy now it would have been newsworthy before.

It was also described (without correction) and him having contracted it. I think the wording would be different if it was an existing condition flaring up.

He had it before.
 
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Do you have a sauce? I'm only using Google news search but the terms Adebayor and malaria are turning up nothing.

I don't have a sauce, because apparently I suck either at googling or at reading comprehension. My bad, was googling and seeing many results from earlier years, but those were all the links included on older news stories to the current news stories. Sorry!
 
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I don't have a sauce, because apparently I suck either at googling or at reading comprehension. My bad, was googling and seeing many results from earlier years, but those were all the links included on older news stories to the current news stories. Sorry!
That's ok, did exactly the same thing!
 
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If we've already established no method of prevention is 100% effective - maybe he took all the necessary precautions and just got unlucky. Maybe we're all ****ging him off for no reason?
 
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No, I haven't and I wouldn't if such risks are requirements of doing so.

This isn't my advice, it's that of charities and the NHS.

I'm not Adebayor's biggest fan, but this is madness. Are you really saying that every player who comes from a malaria infection zone should be criticised for going home to visit his family? Or that they should be not allowed go home, full-stop? Should he be criticised for playing for his national team if they are playing in a malaria zone? Are you as critical of every player who went to the World Cup? I've spent time in Manaus... safe to say it's not malaria free.

Because even the advice you quote (for example from the NHS) is very explicit that there is no 100% guarantee of protection when you visit those areas - and this would be magnified obviously the longer you spend there (presumably quite a lot if that's where your family lives). The NHS states...

"There is currently no vaccine available that offers protection against malaria, so it is very important to take antimalarial medication to reduce your chances of getting malaria. However, antimalarials only reduce your risk of infection by about 90%, so taking steps to avoid bites is also important."

But also points out...

"It is not possible to avoid mosquito bites completely but the less you are bitten, the less likely you are to get malaria."


In my view, having spent a lot of my life in Brazil and parts of Africa, the notion that malaria is "entirely avoidable" is risible to the point of - almost - being insulting to the reader's intelligence. There is not a single reputable source on the web that suggests that's true. You can reduce, but not eliminate entirely, the risk of infection. And unless you have some reason to believe that Adebayor failed to take the same precautions that the rest of us take in those areas, then it's frankly a weird criticism to make of the guy. By all means criticise him for his "hot and cold" attitude, but for getting sick? That's hardly fair.
 
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I'm not Adebayor's biggest fan, but this is madness. Are you really saying that every player who comes from a malaria infection zone should be criticised for going home to visit his family? Or that they should be not allowed go home, full-stop? Should he be criticised for playing for his national team if they are playing in a malaria zone? Are you as critical of every player who went to the World Cup? I've spent time in Manaus... safe to say it's not malaria free.

Because even the advice you quote (for example from the NHS) is very explicit that there is no 100% guarantee of protection when you visit those areas - and this would be magnified obviously the longer you spend there (presumably quite a lot if that's where your family lives). The NHS states...

"There is currently no vaccine available that offers protection against malaria, so it is very important to take antimalarial medication to reduce your chances of getting malaria. However, antimalarials only reduce your risk of infection by about 90%, so taking steps to avoid bites is also important."

But also points out...

"It is not possible to avoid mosquito bites completely but the less you are bitten, the less likely you are to get malaria."


In my view, having spent a lot of my life in Brazil and parts of Africa, the notion that malaria is "entirely avoidable" is risible to the point of - almost - being insulting to the reader's intelligence. There is not a single reputable source on the web that suggests that's true. You can reduce, but not eliminate entirely, the risk of infection. And unless you have some reason to believe that Adebayor failed to take the same precautions that the rest of us take in those areas, then it's frankly a weird criticism to make of the guy. By all means criticise him for his "hot and cold" attitude, but for getting sick? That's hardly fair.

Why should Ade only be held to the same level of account as you or I? He's a multi-million pound footballer earning somewhere in the region of £200K per week - he should be far more careful than you or I.

The reason no health advice states that you can be sure of avoiding malaria is because you'd have a pretty terrible holiday if you did everything you could. You'd be incredibly uncomfortable in the heat and you'd be in bed very early, you'd spend half the day putting repellant on and you'd be spending all of your evenings under a net. That would make the chances of contracting malaria very, very close to zero. That's not practical for one of us on holiday but that's OK, because the risk of one of us getting seriously ill is not that bad.

Ade is a very expensive (I intentionally avoid the word valuable) asset, and he needs to behave as such. The same goes for Verts (of whom I'm a big fan) if the rumours earlier in this thread are true.

If you like though, let's make this not about him getting sick. Instead, why don't we just wish he'd find it in himself to turn up to just one whole preseason.
 
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You don't like adebayor fair enough! But your coming across as a bit of a tw*t so argue your point! Calling me a gap year *** and arguing against every reasonable post just to have a pop at Ade! What he did in the past and this incident are not the same! If u want to you can find something about every one of out players that isn't perfect for health : fitness! As I said we aren't playing FM and sealing out players up until we turn he Xbox on! The fact he is going to play this weeks would suggest that unlike myself he isn't suffering any long term damage unlike say a cudicini!
 
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