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Brennan Johnson

kendoddsdadsdog said:
I don't think he was hiding at all last night, he was just up against an exceptional defender in Gvardiol who completely bossed him.
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Gvardiol has actually been brick defensively this season. He's been a big part of why City have been so poor at not conceding goals. Him shutting Johnson out is not a credit to Johnson.
 
monkeybarry said:
He still reminds me a lot of Son when we brought him.
My concern about Johnson is he might be a bit "soft". Does he have the mentality to improve and become Son quality? The raw ability is there to enhanced. But you can't reach fighting for the inch of space to get only something
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Maybe Johnson became "softer" when he got his head split open, shortly after joining us, he still has a prominent scar.
 
I think @thfcsteff highlighted it about Bergvall ie having such courage on the ball. I think it's the opposite with BJ.

And perhaps that's because he's sort of skilful but not really (tricks etc) ...he's sort of quick but not really (not at this level)...so I'm never convinced HE believes he can outplay his opponent.

His run timing and most of his finishing is very good though and that's what gets him his goals...so if we play to those strengths he'll be a decent contributor.

Edit: just to say, his run timing is good to get on the end of things in the box...not particularly when it comes to build up play underlaps overlaps etc.
 
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ricky2tricky4city said:
I think @thfcsteff highlighted it about Bergvall ie having such courage on the ball. I think it's the opposite with BJ.

And perhaps that's because he's sort of skilful but not really (tricks etc) ...he's sort of quick but not really (not at this level)...so I'm never convinced HE believes he can outplay his opponent.

His run timing and most of his finishing is very good though and that's what gets him his goals...so if we play to those strengths he'll be a decent contributor.
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Can’t argue with this. Although I’d say Kulu isn’t blessed with pace but he isn’t afraid to take people on. Granted he is stronger and is more skilful but Johnson still has to try more on this area. Someone compared him to Alli and whilst Alli was brilliant for a couple of seasons, he never really developed his game and that’s a big part of why he’s no longer here.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Can’t argue with this. Although I’d say Kulu isn’t blessed with pace but he isn’t afraid to take people on. Granted he is stronger and is more skilful but Johnson still has to try more on this area. Someone compared him to Alli and whilst Alli was brilliant for a couple of seasons, he never really developed his game and that’s a big part of why he’s no longer here.
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Deki is a totally different type of player...but the main difference is he's a mentality monster.
 
Bullet said:
Maybe Johnson became "softer" when he got his head split open, shortly after joining us, he still has a prominent scar.
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He never was a particularly brave player, think Sessegnon more than Ali

He's busted his ass to become that "be at back post player for tap in" and he kills it doing that. The fair critique a few are making is that wanting the ball, wanting to take on his man, wanting to test his pace against the next guy.

Up to him to push on and be the guy or he'll be supporting role (RW is one of the most obvious places for us to add to in summer)
 
Johnson play with Djed at Forest, they were a perfect combo down the right

Johnson isn't a dribbly player, but he reads the game very well and knows when to do the run ins for the 'tap ins'

no he isn't a blood and thunder brave type of plyer, more on acceleration and top speed - he can strike and propel us forward, i'm happy with his contribution, top scorer for us before his injury this season
 
indospurs said:
Johnson play with Djed at Forest, they were a perfect combo down the right

Johnson isn't a dribbly player, but he reads the game very well and knows when to do the run ins for the 'tap ins'

no he isn't a blood and thunder brave type of plyer, more on acceleration and top speed - he can strike and propel us forward, i'm happy with his contribution, top scorer for us before his injury this season
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Forest played on and for the counter this gave Johnson space to run into. We often play slowly and attempt to pass precisely, we move the entire team forward cramping the space available. Johnson might not be a dribbly style winger but to play in this system for Ange he needs to be.

His pace and acceleration are irrelevant because he's unable to use these attributes due to his lack of tight control and technique. In a counter attacking side he can be effective for us we need more than a player who occasionally scored tap ins or good shots across the goal.
 
Bishop said:
Forest played on and for the counter this gave Johnson space to run into. We often play slowly and attempt to pass precisely, we move the entire team forward cramping the space available. Johnson might not be a dribbly style winger but to play in this system for Ange he needs to be.

His pace and acceleration are irrelevant because he's unable to use these attributes due to his lack of tight control and technique. In a counter attacking side he can be effective for us we need more than a player who occasionally scored tap ins or good shots across the goal.
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They didn’t play like that in the championship when they played together
 
Bedfordspurs said:
It was Porro
But Johnson was the better pass
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Interesting seeing this. If that attack had been down the other side, I guarantee that Johnson would've been pretty much level with Porro and in the right position to attack the ball ahead of the defender and get a shot on target, unlike Odobert who hasn't worked hard enough to get into the right position.

Some people on here don't seem to think getting into the right positions is something to be appreciated. It is actually a massive part of being successful in football and not all players have the desire/ability.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Interesting seeing this. If that attack had been down the other side, I guarantee that Johnson would've been pretty much level with Porro and in the right position to attack the ball ahead of the defender and get a shot on target, unlike Odobert who hasn't worked hard enough to get into the right position.

Some people on here don't seem to think getting into the right positions is something to be appreciated. It is actually a massive part of being successful in football and not all players have the desire/ability.
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I think the issue is people think it’s easy
I don’t get that as everyone knows scoring is the hardest thing in a low margin sport
He ain’t perfect but he will likely get 20 goals this season
Twenty
And people think he is brick and it’s all because of others
 
Bishop said:
Forest played on and for the counter this gave Johnson space to run into. We often play slowly and attempt to pass precisely, we move the entire team forward cramping the space available. Johnson might not be a dribbly style winger but to play in this system for Ange he needs to be.

His pace and acceleration are irrelevant because he's unable to use these attributes due to his lack of tight control and technique. In a counter attacking side he can be effective for us we need more than a player who occasionally scored tap ins or good shots across the goal.
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occasionally scored tap ins? that's very dismissive - i don't think he has all the attributes to be a top, top right winger as he doesn't dribble past his man, but he does use what he does have really, really well, his pace and positioning to be open in the box. We missed that a lot when he was out, no one else does what he does so well and effectively, not even Solanke
 
Bedfordspurs said:
They didn’t play like that in the championship when they played together
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I didn't watch him in the championship but you're talking about a significantly lower level of player. I don't really think it's a base to compare. We've seen how he performs in the PL and that's a player unable and unwilling to challenge his man.

I don't criticise because he can't dribble I criticise because I don't think he doesn't offers enough in general play. I don't care for goal numbers, that's never been something that impresses me. I like footballers, I like players with good touch, control, vision, ingenuity, passing quality etc. Johnson is the opposite of these attributes, but it's not just that he lacks these abilities he also actively shies away from contributing in open play.

I would get the support if we were top of the table 10 points clear but we have obvious issues controlling games and breaking teams down and Johnson contributes directly to these problems by his unwilling to engage and he's all often habit of just passing the ball to someone else to take responsibility. I'm sorry but we aren't good enough to carry a RW who averages less than 30 touches a game and has so little activity in the match. If we played counter football then maybe it would work but we don't, we play slow possession football for the most part and Johnson basically a non entity in those contexts.

Again the standards you guys have are so low I'm baffled. If we put this guy up for sale cheap City, Arsenal, Liverpool etc would not be running to our door to buy him.
 
Bishop said:
I didn't watch him in the championship but you're talking about a significantly lower level of player. I don't really think it's a base to compare. We've seen how he performs in the PL and that's a player unable and unwilling to challenge his man.

I don't criticise because he can't dribble I criticise because I don't think he doesn't offers enough in general play. I don't care for goal numbers, that's never been something that impresses me. I like footballers, I like players with good touch, control, vision, ingenuity, passing quality etc. Johnson is the opposite of these attributes, but it's not just that he lacks these abilities he also actively shies away from contributing in open play.

I would get the support if we were top of the table 10 points clear but we have obvious issues controlling games and breaking teams down and Johnson contributes directly to these problems by his unwilling to engage and he's all often habit of just passing the ball to someone else to take responsibility. I'm sorry but we aren't good enough to carry a RW who averages less than 30 touches a game and has so little activity in the match. If we played counter football then maybe it would work but we don't, we play slow possession football for the most part and Johnson basically a non entity in those contexts.

Again the standards you guys have are so low I'm baffled. If we put this guy up for sale cheap City, Arsenal, Liverpool etc would not be running to our door to buy him.
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The quote was about djed and Johnson… that was in the championship and that was what you were commenting on. Hence my post, however you have clarified you never saw him play then so that makes sense works your view on how they played

I like effective players. Players who actually achieve an outcome. Gary Lineker in the modern game would be an issue for some people because all he did was score

I’ve seen many players have passion, beat a man, then miss… or even fudge io a simple pass. We saw both city’s mega money winger do just that repeatedly mid week because they aren’t good at end product. Yet… I guarantee our fans would love them here yet their end product is inferior to his.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
The quote was about djed and Johnson… that was in the championship and that was what you were commenting on. Hence my post, however you have clarified you never saw him play then so that makes sense works your view on how they played

I like effective players. Players who actually achieve an outcome. Gary Lineker in the modern game would be an issue for some people because all he did was score

I’ve seen many players have passion, beat a man, then miss… or even fudge io a simple pass. We saw both city’s mega money winger do just that repeatedly mid week because they aren’t good at end product. Yet… I guarantee our fans would love them here.
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Lineker was so much more than that, he was a willing runner, always offering an out ball, keeping defenders honest with his pace, and in the modern game would be a prolific winner of FK's.
 
Lineker was a striker. A striker can just score goals cause that's he's job.

If Johnson was playing up front it would be different, but as stated above his attribute set seems to be the opposite of what's required to make Ange's system successful. When I made the point about carrying him it was an observation of how little he does in other areas, it's not even a dig at his abilities.
 
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