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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 93 62.4%
  • Out

    Votes: 56 37.6%

  • Total voters
    149
David Moyes is a good manager.

Also we may well look down our noses at Everton but if you look at the two teams available yesterday, Everton players would probably have made up the biggest portion of players you'd select into a combined 11.... and that is especially the case when you look at the spines of the two teams. Yes Everton are a poor team but the players that we have available at the moment are either massively lacking in experience or absolutely knackered.
David Moyes is very good at getting brick teams to be solid and stay up. He hasn't got a clue about getting teams to play football.

I can't think of a single Everton player I'd pick over ours, they're where they are for a reason.
 
You look at how Everton pressed the life out of us yesterday. Neither Moyes or that Everton team are known for it. But Moyes knew how we were going to play and their press got them the first goal and several other chances. That's good management because he's adapted to what he knew he'd be playing against. Moyes is a not an elite manager but he's a very good one.

Matt Law reporting that Ange is safe at the moment so I guess he'll get the two games this week to see if he can give himself some breathing space. As long as he's here, we'll get behind him. I'm going Sunday and dreading it though. The journey home is going to be torture if we don't win. If we lose...I don't want to think about it.

The thing is you don’t even have to have that much knowledge of football to play against us. You can simply win the ball back from an attack, hoof the ball over our midfield and you have one on one situations or 3 on 2.

Look at Calvert Lewin yesterday, his one on one where he mis controlled it. All they did was hoof the ball over us and he had a clear chance where he should have done better. That was shocking defending and has been the story all season and for last year too. I used to do that ball on a Sunday to my striker.

We are so easy to play against, people change their over complicated tactics to, just soak it up and go long, and you will have joy. Amateur stuff yet some Spurs fans accept that because we play Angeball.

clamball more like.
 
Are you not entertained though?
Objectively, we are entertaining. 5 more goals in our game yesterday. Personally, I've felt sick to my stomach since about 10 minutes in yesterday. Finding it hard to find any positivity, let alone entertainment, in Tottenham right now.

David Moyes is very good at getting brick teams to be solid and stay up. He hasn't got a clue about getting teams to play football.

I can't think of a single Everton player I'd pick over ours, they're where they are for a reason.
He will never play football the way fans ideally want it played. But he's better than just getting a team to stay up. He had Everton and West Ham finishing regularly in the top half of the table.
 
He will never play football the way fans ideally want it played. But he's better than just getting a team to stay up. He had Everton and West Ham finishing regularly in the top half of the table.
That is just staying up.

If you're not qualifying for real European football or winning it then you're just avoiding relegation.
 
Objectively, we are entertaining. 5 more goals in our game yesterday. Personally, I've felt sick to my stomach since about 10 minutes in yesterday. Finding it hard to find any positivity, let alone entertainment, in Tottenham right now.


He will never play football the way fans ideally want it played. But he's better than just getting a team to stay up. He had Everton and West Ham finishing regularly in the top half of the table.
It's generally entertaining for a neutral that's why you see so many positive comments about our football in general from outsiders or a lot of sympathy for the injury situation.

I don't know if I find systa.tic incompetence on a football pitch entertaining tbh, I prefer some degree of quality first.
 
David Moyes is very good at getting brick teams to be solid and stay up. He hasn't got a clue about getting teams to play football.

I can't think of a single Everton player I'd pick over ours, they're where they are for a reason.
Yesterday you would select at least 6 Everton players ahead of the ones that we had available to start.
 
Pickford, Tarkowski, Braithwaite, Gueye, Doucoure, Calvert-Lewin would all have started for us yesterday. The spine of our team was incredibly weak yesterday.
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Pigford shouldn't be in any PL team, let alone ours.

And then a pile of meh dross. Calvert-Lewin is one of the worst strikers the PL has seen. Can't buy a goal this season and he scores against us
 
Pickford, Tarkowski, Braithwaite, Gueye, Doucoure, Calvert-Lewin would all have started for us yesterday. The spine of our team was incredibly weak yesterday.

Pickford’s a lunatic; Tarkowski is the very definition of bog-standard; Doucoure has spent his entire career flattering to deceive; we would have lost 6-2 if Calvert-Lewin was a functioning footballer; wouldn’t know Braithwaite if he kicked me on the shin; Gueye…maybe.
 

Get the sense it's all about the potential next guy now - Levy trying to show that we don't always sack managers straight away.

A loss in either of this week's games will surely be it, though? He's one more bad result from the chop, I would think.

Dead man walking and that's why the games coming up will be harder, zero chance the players don't know it as well.

Today, after the 2nd leg, end of next season, doesn't matter, it's been 17+ fudging years since we finished outside the top 8, no fudging chance he's going to get us anywhere near that.

This is classic example of funs/pundits knowing fudge all, "reason Spurs doesn't progress is because they are too trigger happy", in hindsight, all that has been proven is what we already know, when results start to spiral for a manger, it basically never recovers. He should have been fired the minute we dropped out the top 10, and we'd have way less injuries and maybe a season to save still.
 
Pickford, Tarkowski, Braithwaite, Gueye, Doucoure, Calvert-Lewin would all have started for us yesterday. The spine of our team was incredibly weak yesterday.
I know you rate Braithwaite and others do but he has talked dropped back to the pre hype levels for me
I do agree these guys would have played though but if we stuck with the word 3-4-2-1 set up that we tried we would have lost
 
You'd have stated Pickford over Kinsky?


Pickford is much better than Kinsky. He may be better in a few seasons but hes nowhere near Pickford right now. Only the most myopic or dumb Spurs fan would think this.

Pickford is second overall in clean sheets and has the most saves in the premier league this season and that is playing for Everton. He’s also an experienced international goalkeeper with all the experience that comes with that.

But yeah . A kid who has played 2 games in the premier league and conceded 5 is better.

Bizarre stuff.

 
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Get the sense it's all about the potential next guy now - Levy trying to show that we don't always sack managers straight away.

A loss in either of this week's games will surely be it, though? He's one more bad result from the chop, I would think.

I think he is done. The club have shown their 'support' thus far in the window IMO. I appreciate it is difficult to get players in Jan, etc, but I would've expected them to have had a list in Dec and be actively engaged in discussions. I think it is very very clear that they are signing for the project and not the manager (which in fairness is the right direction) however a shoirt 6 month loan or two this window would've shown they were also backing him.
They're leaving him to dangle slowly in the loose noose, feet still just about touching the chair below; their idea of 'support' IMO is to not kick the chair away. Yet.
 
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