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Transfer thread

K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
They're not posting for you or me, their target audience are the desperate and gullible, if we knew who they were we'd be putting dogbrick through their letter box.
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I'm not saying this guy is always right, but he does know a thing or two from time to time.

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Finney Is Back said:
I know we'll get criticism from some quarters for a signing like Souza considering our predicament right now but I still think it is the right path to go down. We don't have the funds to sign best, ready made players now and even if we did we don't have the gravitas to attract them to the club.

We need to double down and continue down this road of signing great young players but make sure that we have better pathways for them to fulfill their potential, either via better relationships with other clubs for loans or, better still, getting ourselves a feeder club in a weaker european league.

I think we also need to be smarter with bringing in some experienced players to help the youngsters. Players like Xhaka and Henderson have been invaluable this season for Sunderland and Brentford. I haven't really had much thought who there is that could play that sort of role at Spurs but as we're struggling at left back and seemingly bringing in one for the future I wonder whether Liverpool would be prepared to sell Andy Robertson for a not particularly massive fee?
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I thought Rico Lewis was sensational against us recently. He's out of contract in the summer and one of Frank's former leaders.

I do agree with your general point though. You should never stop speculating on these young players and building that pipeline for the future. It should almost be treated like a separate track to the one where you improve the first team. I would say it is more important to stop buying squad fillers at this stage. We need players coming in where you immediately build an argument that they should be in the best eleven.

EDIT: my bad, I meant Rico Henry
 
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K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
A broken clock is right twice a day.
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How did you hear about transfer rumours back in the day? I remember back in the 90's teletext was usually the first to report on something - the one we read a lot was called Clowns, if I remember correctly - it was pretty much always the first to report a signing, the letters would then blink - TRAMEZZANI TO SPURS! blink blink - then TV and the newspapers would follow. I specifically remember it saying we had Andy Hinchcliffe on a medical that failed - and I was disappointed, haha, damn, those were harder times.
 
This is from a Brazilian guy I am friends with that’s pretty knowledgeable.

I think he’s alright, remember following him during the u13s he was more of a winger and then got brought back recently. As expected, more offensive but could improve defensively. I think he’s ok, but I don’t see him as ready to play EPL, would probably follow Kota Takai’s steps and get minutes in germany or reserves.
 
Finney Is Back said:
I know we'll get criticism from some quarters for a signing like Souza considering our predicament right now but I still think it is the right path to go down. We don't have the funds to sign best, ready made players now and even if we did we don't have the gravitas to attract them to the club.

We need to double down and continue down this road of signing great young players but make sure that we have better pathways for them to fulfill their potential, either via better relationships with other clubs for loans or, better still, getting ourselves a feeder club in a weaker european league.

I think we also need to be smarter with bringing in some experienced players to help the youngsters. Players like Xhaka and Henderson have been invaluable this season for Sunderland and Brentford. I haven't really had much thought who there is that could play that sort of role at Spurs but as we're struggling at left back and seemingly bringing in one for the future I wonder whether Liverpool would be prepared to sell Andy Robertson for a not particularly massive fee?
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But we do have the funds.
 
Daisuk said:
How did you hear about transfer rumours back in the day? I remember back in the 90's teletext was usually the first to report on something - the one we read a lot was called Clowns, if I remember correctly - it was pretty much always the first to report a signing, the letters would then blink - TRAMEZZANI TO SPURS! blink blink - then TV and the newspapers would follow. I specifically remember it saying we had Andy Hinchcliffe on a medical that failed - and I was disappointed, haha, damn, those were harder times.
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0898 numbers. Or was that something else? 😁
 
Finney Is Back said:
I know we'll get criticism from some quarters for a signing like Souza considering our predicament right now but I still think it is the right path to go down. We don't have the funds to sign best, ready made players now and even if we did we don't have the gravitas to attract them to the club.

We need to double down and continue down this road of signing great young players but make sure that we have better pathways for them to fulfill their potential, either via better relationships with other clubs for loans or, better still, getting ourselves a feeder club in a weaker european league.

I think we also need to be smarter with bringing in some experienced players to help the youngsters. Players like Xhaka and Henderson have been invaluable this season for Sunderland and Brentford. I haven't really had much thought who there is that could play that sort of role at Spurs but as we're struggling at left back and seemingly bringing in one for the future I wonder whether Liverpool would be prepared to sell Andy Robertson for a not particularly massive fee?
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As much stick as our recruitment is getting on here by many right now, I still think in a couple of years we will be praising the signings of the likes of Vuskovic, Gray, Bergvall, Simons, Tel and Odobert after they've had a good amount of time and games of PL football. Of course needs to be supplemented with some ready now players, but I think whoever is manager in a couple of years the outlook will look a lot better....
 
Finney Is Back said:
I know we'll get criticism from some quarters for a signing like Souza considering our predicament right now but I still think it is the right path to go down. We don't have the funds to sign best, ready made players now and even if we did we don't have the gravitas to attract them to the club.

We need to double down and continue down this road of signing great young players but make sure that we have better pathways for them to fulfill their potential, either via better relationships with other clubs for loans or, better still, getting ourselves a feeder club in a weaker european league.

I think we also need to be smarter with bringing in some experienced players to help the youngsters. Players like Xhaka and Henderson have been invaluable this season for Sunderland and Brentford. I haven't really had much thought who there is that could play that sort of role at Spurs but as we're struggling at left back and seemingly bringing in one for the future I wonder whether Liverpool would be prepared to sell Andy Robertson for a not particularly massive fee?
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Fully agreed. And particularly at left back where we do have some options, but need another one, as far as I know we don't have any super highly rated academy left backs and at the back in general we do have some experience. Just makes sense all around, but with the caveat that it makes even more sense if he's already good enough to make some impact on the pitch this season too as we do need an option this season too.

We do have a lot of talented young players at the moment, but don't think we're at the stage where we have too many. Quality over quantity on that front (too) though.

Wasn't Palhina a bit like that experienced player coming in? Kolo Muani too, but no PL experience and perhaps not a leader type. But we did seemingly look at the squad and identify experience as a missing trait this summer.
 
Daisuk said:
How did you hear about transfer rumours back in the day? I remember back in the 90's teletext was usually the first to report on something - the one we read a lot was called Clowns, if I remember correctly - it was pretty much always the first to report a signing, the letters would then blink - TRAMEZZANI TO SPURS! blink blink - then TV and the newspapers would follow. I specifically remember it saying we had Andy Hinchcliffe on a medical that failed - and I was disappointed, haha, damn, those were harder times.
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Sometimes in newspapers not on TV or radio, remember turning up for game on Boxing day and Steve Hodge was named in the team nobody knew anything about it. Football was a game not such an industry.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
Sometimes in newspapers not on TV or radio, remember turning up for game on Boxing day and Steve Hodge was named in the team nobody knew anything about it. Football was a game not such an industry.
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Something like that even happened in the 00s. We turned up at Doncaster for a cup game and couldnt name a full bench, as Chimbonda got sold whilst travelling on the coach up. Which seemed a novel way of breaking a transfer story
 
harr1984 said:
As much stick as our recruitment is getting on here by many right now, I still think in a couple of years we will be praising the signings of the likes of Vuskovic, Gray, Bergvall, Simons, Tel and Odobert after they've had a good amount of time and games of PL football. Of course needs to be supplemented with some ready now players, but I think whoever is manager in a couple of years the outlook will look a lot better....
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Identifying and buying prospects is one part of player recruitment and while we are seemingly doing well at that the bread an butter needs to be providing a balanced first team squad capable of performing in the here and now. The only DoF I think who managed that was Arnesen - everything since has been piecemeal
 
Bishop said:
But you are talking fantasy what ifs. What if he broke his leg? What if he missed the chance? What if my auntie had gonads? 🤣

I don't know how good your maths is but what is it about 18 goals in 85 games that makes you so certain he would 100% have scored yesterday?
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You're using some weird decontextualized model of probability to determine an outcome which is absolutely unprovable. That stat does not make you any more right than someone who thinks he'd have been useful off the bench. The truth is our manager did not want to work with him (or try to develop him further) and that was his decision (please note, I am not claiming he was Arjen Robben calibre OK?).
 
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I wonder if there's any point in looking to try and get Serge Gnabry as an experienced option. He'd suit us and is a player who can play in all the forward positions.
 
Muttley said:
I thought Rico Lewis was sensational against us recently. He's out of contract in the summer and one of Frank's former leaders.

I do agree with your general point though. You should never stop speculating on these young players and building that pipeline for the future. It should almost be treated like a separate track to the one where you improve the first team. I would say it is more important to stop buying squad fillers at this stage. We need players coming in where you immediately build an argument that they should be in the best eleven.

EDIT: my bad, I meant Rico Henry
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Yeah a few of us on here suggested him as an option a few weeks ago.
 
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