How is the PL any different? Did Mourinho/Ancelotti did the equivalent of winning the SPL with Celtic?
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How is the PL any different? Did Mourinho/Ancelotti did the equivalent of winning the SPL with Celtic?
Rogers needs at least 2 full seasons with Swansea in the PL to prove he can do it with an inferior team - same way Phil Brown tried. Anything less than that wouldn't yield objective results to judge his ability on, imv
If AVB was given a 3-year guaranteed contract - who knows what could have happened. Instead most of the foreign manager-hating cnuting media dug into him from day one and slowly erodited his credibility.
Whoever comes in next - he needs to be given time and unconditional support for a minimum of 3-4 years and supported through potentially difiicult transition periods. As fans we must accept that and bear with it
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nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
So Rodgers has to have 2 successfull seasons in the EPL but AVB is the better candidate right now?
But at the same - your logic suggests AVB is brick only after 8 months in the PL while Rogers is the second coming of Jesus based on the exact same amout of time in a team with zero pressure or any real expectations of success.
At least the former has achieved reasonable continental success
There is now way we can conclsuively confirm AVB is a brick manager based on such a short spell and in the post he was in
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Eidur Gudjohnsen
Totally agree with this actually...Lille can smell the bidding war.
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indianspur
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RDM has a bigger chance than AVB of becoming manager of THFC
Half-man / half-owl is Chelski through and through and a glorified yes man. Don't want him anywhere near our club
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
I think its more the case that the media dont hate foreign managers, more that they just fawn over the likes of Lampard and Terry.
If you are an enemy of Lampard, you are an enemy of The Sun!
In principle I like the idea. In practice I just dont think it works.
While I agree clubs are often to hasty to sack a manager, I also think patience and support needs to be earned, not given blindly.
For example, your manager is not getting results and the team looks like brick - time to worry
your manager is not getting results but you can see his ideas and methods bedding in, have patience, its transition...
In the case of either Rodgers or AVB, they both have some common traits. If we gave one the job we would be giving it to a meticulous person, with a set system of play to employ, who would need time to get the players to buy into it and adopt it fully. In either case there would certainly be a transitional phase, with wobbly form. Im happy to take that on, personally, so long as I can see things changing for the positive.
With Rodgers and Swansea its been a great partnership. With AVB and Chelsea the opposite. I think in either case its pretty obvious which is/was working and which isnt. If it looks like it is working then great, patience a plenty
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indianspur
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ok then, Fatih Terim. Has done all AVB has done and more
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stinkfoot
Eidur Gudjohnsen
After all the good feeling with how well the staff/fans of Bolton/Us acted and the football community as a whole responded to the horrible events last week I guess it's back to business as usual...
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indianspur
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bet he takes it up the shtinker on the first date
Steed Train
Clive Wilson
Its a pointless comparison. Rodgers has been at swansea for 2 years with a bunch of championship players, AVB inherited a team of self important tacos who think they run the team for 8 months.
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indianspur
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no wonder there were communication problems at chelsea under AVB and RDM
So what do you suggest we should do then?
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Anthony Gardner
Parrett played in the U-20 world cup just last summer so can't be doing that badly.
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indianspur
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if he could bring Hulk and Falcao to the Lane anything would be possible
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
Its not like AVB and Rodgers are the last two managers on the face of the earth. People are thrashing out terms like they are our only options...
Not so much about the names per se - simply two good examples on both extremes as far as board 'patience', relative success, and transition plans are concerned.