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Transfer Rumour Thread

I see Hoilett scored another goal last night in the Premier League and made 2 decent touch-line dribbles - surely by now this is proof beyond all reasonable doubt he should be signed for THFC in order to become the next David Bentley and a vessel for general fans' outpuring of hate and disappointment.

Alternatively we can go for the guy who was 'quite good at Reading' and now has managed to score a few goals against bottom 5 random cloggers giving solid indication of his ascend towards Frank Lampard's level of ability based on nothing more other than their general location on the field

Or we can really punch out of the box here and buy someone who actually improves the first 11 as opposed to the Next Gen squad and seek to raise the overall squad quality for next season. That's a crazy idea, granted and one which may take time to fully comprehend but I'm of the opinion we should be aiming to buy one player of very high quality instead of 3 brick ones who would most likely cost more in wages overall and take up 3 spots out of the 25. We went to great trouble to rid the squad of Jenas, Hutton, Palacios, Crouch, Bentley (almost), Bassong, Corluka, Pienaar and now we seem desperate to fill it up again with the exact same level of players. Bizzare logic at the very least


I have to say that if some of our incomings were Hoilett and Sigurdsson to replace the likes of Bentley, Dos Santos, Jenas then I would be very pleased. It would to my mind represent an upgrade on the squad overall whilst probably costing less overall in wages and fees than we would receive for the mentioned players. I like the pair of them as players and feel both would be pretty good additions to the club.
 
Sigurdsson and Swansea still have to come to the Lane

will be interesting
 
I have to say that if some of our incomings were Hoilett and Sigurdsson to replace the likes of Bentley, Dos Santos, Jenas then I would be very pleased. It would to my mind represent an upgrade on the squad overall whilst probably costing less overall in wages and fees than we would receive for the mentioned players. I like the pair of them as players and feel both would be pretty good additions to the club.

So essentuially what you're suggesting is we should spend wages, fess and agent fees on 2 inferior squad players in order to replace 2 existing subs (not to mention we need to sell first). I wonder how Toilet and Sigurdsson would look after a month on our bench, zero playing time and minimal match-fitness? Because the bench is exactly where they'll be 90% of the time. Let me give you some clues - look at Gio, Pienaar and even ol' Pav = utterly brick and short of any confidence. None of those 2 mentioned above are fit to grace the team sheet 11. Probably the equvalent of replacing a Skoda with a VW Golf - marginally better = fundamentally the same car.

Enough with these limited cloggers and hyped-up Champinship nothing players looking good on the Weekend Review show

Enough with looking to replace one squad player with another based on the latter scoring 3 concsecutive goals against Wigan Athletic

Enough with this miopic outlook of a 'cheapie but a goodie' wheeler-dealer semi-retired injury prone crocks 6-month flimflam deals. Enough


A club of our scale and our aspirations for the future needs to unconditionally make a statement in the transfer market. How would we ever attract higher calibre players in the fold of Hazard if we keep mentioning Blackburn and Wigan's on-form 'stars'.

We need a clear transfer outlook based on thorough research and informed decisions. Not to mention we're flush.

If we want to be regular CL participants, Top 4 pushers and even title-contenders - our transfer dealings must reflect that else the balance would not work.

And if the chairman isn't willing to trust Arry with some pessos due to his imminenet departure - then perhaps we need to seek making alternative arrangments
 
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2009/2010 - 21 goals in 44 matches for Reading in all competitions(Including an equaliser from the spot, against Liverpool in extra time in the F.A. Cup that got Reading into overtime, where they won.) Was voted player of the year by the fans.
2010/2011 - 10 goals and 2 assists in only 13 starts for Hoffenheim. Voted player of the year by the fans.
2011/2012 - 5 goals and 2 assists in 9 games for Swansea.

But I respect your argument, just like Wriggly's. Only my point is, if we continuously wait for players to prove themselves for some time at the highest level, they end up costing a lot(usually too much) and we'll have the big dogs pushing us away from the table. 10 million pounds for an attacking midfielder who could well score 10+ goals a season and have a number of assists, with brilliants set-pieces and only 22 years old. You tell me?
This is a young English right winger.

2005/06 - Scored a hat trick in a 4-3 win on his debut against Man United, becoming the first player ever to score a hat trick against them. Scored five goals to power a weak Blackburn to 6th in the league to qualify for the UEFA Cup.
2006/07 - Scored 7 goals and provided 13 assists, including many fantastic long distance shots and free kicks. Regarded by the club as a set-piece specialist and is voted player of the year by the fans
2007/08 - 8 goals, 13 assists. Impressed enough to receive 7 England caps, and Blackburn place an ?ú18m valuation on his head.

You can have him - the new David Beckham - for just ?ú15m
 
Agent expects Krasic exit


Out-of-favour Juventus winger has many admirers

By Simone Bargellini. Last Updated: March 20, 2012 8:05pm

Milos Krasic's agent believes the Juventus winger will leave the Serie A outfit this summer.

Tottenham targeted a loan move for the wide man on deadline day in the January transfer window, but the Serbian favoured a permanent deal.

Chelsea have also been linked with the 27-year-old Serbia international, who has only made seven Serie A appearances this season, the last one being on 15th January.

His agent, Vlado Borozan, believes he will be moving on and there are plenty of admirers of his talent.

Borozan told Radio Crc: "He has become an unrecognisable player in Juventus because of a tactical problem.

"My client is a great player, so in June we'll see where he will go to play.

"Krasic has many admirers and not only in Italy, so I think that there won't be big problems in finding a good team."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7613835/Agent-expects-Krasic-exit
 
Krasic is another top alternative, along with Afellay, to Hazard for the right wing slot if we persist with 442

Krasic in English football could be quite a force.
 
I wish we had such a failure - 50 PL goals in 100 apps.

Fergie confirmed he's currently blooding his youngsters for a new formation for the next 4-5 where pace is essential - nothing to do with his ability, simply doesn't fit their new layout.
 
Yes saw those quotes but surely it has everything to do with his ability, given that Ferguson is still able to find places for old coots like Giggs and Scholes.

And what about his CL games strike ratio?
 
That's in midfield where they're absolutely dire - the fact Scholes came back and is a starter says it all

In other news - Jol says he'd love to have him back :D
 
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2009/2010 - 21 goals in 44 matches for Reading in all competitions(Including an equaliser from the spot, against Liverpool in extra time in the F.A. Cup that got Reading into overtime, where they won.) Was voted player of the year by the fans.
2010/2011 - 10 goals and 2 assists in only 13 starts for Hoffenheim. Voted player of the year by the fans.
2011/2012 - 5 goals and 2 assists in 9 games for Swansea.

But I respect your argument, just like Wriggly's. Only my point is, if we continuously wait for players to prove themselves for some time at the highest level, they end up costing a lot(usually too much) and we'll have the big dogs pushing us away from the table. 10 million pounds for an attacking midfielder who could well score 10+ goals a season and have a number of assists, with brilliants set-pieces and only 22 years old. You tell me?

This is a young English right winger.

2005/06 - Scored a hat trick in a 4-3 win on his debut against Man United, becoming the first player ever to score a hat trick against them. Scored five goals to power a weak Blackburn to 6th in the league to qualify for the UEFA Cup.
2006/07 - Scored 7 goals and provided 13 assists, including many fantastic long distance shots and free kicks. Regarded by the club as a set-piece specialist and is voted player of the year by the fans
2007/08 - 8 goals, 13 assists. Impressed enough to receive 7 England caps, and Blackburn place an ?ú18m valuation on his head.

You can have him - the new David Beckham - for just ?ú15m


so the stats are similar, but what they don't reveal is the difference in mental attitude and style of play between the two.

also, if we never sign someone because a previous signing failed we'd very quickly be in the mire.
 
That's in midfield where they're absolutely dire - the fact Scholes came back and is a starter says it all

In other news - Jol says he's love to have him back :D

Berba and Ruiz in the same team?!

\o/

they're building a good team there, with those 2 and Pogrebnyak, Dempsey plus the potential of Frei and Dembele. bet Zamora wishes he'd stayed.
 
I'm 95% certain that if Arry stays next season, he wouldn't be able to resist and oldie but a goodie of Berba's stature. Although at the same time I doubt Levy would want to deal with the piosonous snake again.
 
So essentuially what you're suggesting is we should spend wages, fess and agent fees on 2 inferior squad players in order to replace 2 existing subs (not to mention we need to sell first). I wonder how Toilet and Sigurdsson would look after a month on our bench, zero playing time and minimal match-fitness? Because the bench is exactly where they'll be 90% of the time. Let me give you some clues - look at Gio, Pienaar and even ol' Pav = utterly brick and short of any confidence. None of those 2 mentioned above are fit to grace the team sheet 11. Probably the equvalent of replacing a Skoda with a VW Golf - marginally better = fundamentally the same car.

Enough with these limited cloggers and hyped-up Champinship nothing players looking good on the Weekend Review show

Enough with looking to replace one squad player with another based on the latter scoring 3 concsecutive goals against Wigan Athletic

Enough with this miopic outlook of a 'cheapie but a goodie' wheeler-dealer semi-retired injury prone crocks 6-month flimflam deals. Enough


A club of our scale and our aspirations for the future needs to unconditionally make a statement in the transfer market. How would we ever attract higher calibre players in the fold of Hazard if we keep mentioning Blackburn and Wigan's on-form 'stars'.

We need a clear transfer outlook based on thorough research and informed decisions. Not to mention we're flush.

If we want to be regular CL participants, Top 4 pushers and even title-contenders - our transfer dealings must reflect that else the balance would not work.

And if the chairman isn't willing to trust Arry with some pessos due to his imminenet departure - then perhaps we need to seek making alternative arrangments

You sound a bit angry? Are you ok?

With all due respect, not that I would want to question your ability on understanding how a squad is composed but I will anyway. Those toilet players that you mention can come into our squad and give us a greater depth for the positions we require. No one is saying we shouldn't go for the likes of Hazard and Llorente but you also need a few players in your squad that perhaps arent superstars but can come in and do a decent job unlike the replacements we have now.

Both Gio and Pavlyuchenko were big gambles in different ways and they didn't really work out because they werent good enough, with no background success in this league/country. Both Sigurdsson and Hoilett have a background of playing, living and achieving (within their own spheres) in this country so not the same gamble and much more likely to work out. Pienaar is a bit unfair, he has been here for a year and unable to get past the first 4 choices in midfield, no shame in that. Still much prefer him as part of the squad than Jenas/Bentley.

Are you honestly saying to me that Hoilett as a backup for both Bale and Lennon on a free wouldn't make good business?

Are you also saying to me that Sigurdsson wouldn't for a decent fee be an upgrade within the team on losing a couple of midfielders like Jenas/Bentley whilst being someone to deputise for Van der Vaart?

Based on our injuries this season both the mentioned players would have got significant game time and certainly in Hoiletts case, he would have come into the side and allowed us to keep our normal shape with 2 wingers. If you still fail to see that just that signing alone would make sense based on the impact of us keeping a settled style of play then I don't know what to say to you other than stop playing FM and thinking its all about ?ú25m signings because it isn't.

Oh, as for us being flush, it's pleasing to know that you have the ear of Levy and the Directors. Maybe you could let me and the board know just why it is then we haven't built this stadium we are after with all this free cash floating around.
 
You sound a bit angry? Are you ok?

With all due respect, not that I would want to question your ability on understanding how a squad is composed but I will anyway. Those toilet players that you mention can come into our squad and give us a greater depth for the positions we require. No one is saying we shouldn't go for the likes of Hazard and Llorente but you also need a few players in your squad that perhaps arent superstars but can come in and do a decent job unlike the replacements we have now.

I don't play FM, so spare me that one, pal

The 2 players being mentioned right now are no better than Bentley and Gio were prior to us signing them. In fact - Bentley was one of the best right wingers in the Prem (on form) as opposed to some over-hyped players who are over-achieving in a Championship promoted team.

Have our current replacements even been given a chance? Those 2 would sit on the bench just like the current ones. Gio did well in his earlier cup runs. Certainly not worse than Hoilett for exampe.

So why should we go and buy 2 more of the same having just gone through a massive clean-out process ridding our wage-structure of squad players who are not good enough to compete in this squad. Why not instead go and buy 1 great player instead 3 average ones because that is exactly what those are? Why is that concept so alien and difficult to understand? Is brickgursson the type of signing to signal out there our current progress and send a message to all Hazards and Llorentes - come to Spurs, we're building for the future? We need to improve our starting 11 - we have a decent bench, bar 1-2 positions plus once we improve the first 11 - the current players would form a very strong bench. Simples really.

r.e. finances - We sold many, bought very little over the last 3 years and have the CL income in addition to that. We also bid massive fees (35m +) for players last January. These are all facts

You must have very modest expectations/aspirations for us as a club as far as our transfer dealings go (fair enough) but don't be surprised if there are fans out there who feel we can and should be attracting players better than Championship standard over-achievers. Our last few transfer windows have been shambles and those dead-line day bids were nearly embarassing. If anything - a more structured approach is needed as opposed to being linked with the latest clogger who looked good on the weekend
 
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So essentuially what you're suggesting is we should spend wages, fess and agent fees on 2 inferior squad players in order to replace 2 existing subs (not to mention we need to sell first). I wonder how Toilet and Sigurdsson would look after a month on our bench, zero playing time and minimal match-fitness? Because the bench is exactly where they'll be 90% of the time. Let me give you some clues - look at Gio, Pienaar and even ol' Pav = utterly brick and short of any confidence. None of those 2 mentioned above are fit to grace the team sheet 11. Probably the equvalent of replacing a Skoda with a VW Golf - marginally better = fundamentally the same car.

Enough with these limited cloggers and hyped-up Champinship nothing players looking good on the Weekend Review show

Enough with looking to replace one squad player with another based on the latter scoring 3 concsecutive goals against Wigan Athletic

Enough with this miopic outlook of a 'cheapie but a goodie' wheeler-dealer semi-retired injury prone crocks 6-month flimflam deals. Enough


A club of our scale and our aspirations for the future needs to unconditionally make a statement in the transfer market. How would we ever attract higher calibre players in the fold of Hazard if we keep mentioning Blackburn and Wigan's on-form 'stars'.

We need a clear transfer outlook based on thorough research and informed decisions. Not to mention we're flush.

If we want to be regular CL participants, Top 4 pushers and even title-contenders - our transfer dealings must reflect that else the balance would not work.

And if the chairman isn't willing to trust Arry with some pessos due to his imminenet departure - then perhaps we need to seek making alternative arrangments

We have gotten to where we are by being shrewd in the transfer market. Not by just buying big name players or making statements. Although I agree that we should look to sign some classy players we have to continue doing good value for money business in the transfer market if we want to stay at the top. We simply can't compete with City, United, Chelsea and Arsenal for wages and we can't compete with the richest clubs for transfer fees either.

There is no reason why signing Hoilett would mean we can't sign Hazard, any more than signing Friedel on a free kept us from signing Ade on a loan or signing Gallas on a free kept us from signing VdV.

If a superstar, obvious first team improvement player isn't available I'd rather we take a cheap punt on someone good for the squad rather than leave that spot open. People were wheeling out the "what do we need him for?" when Harry signed Kaboul, he was very important in our hunt for 4th and later he's secured a first team spot. Same argument when we signed Gallas and he was a key player for us last season in the CL and PL. Once again when we signed Nelsen the same argument was used. One injury later (Dawson) and I think most people are very happy that we have Nelsen here.

We went to great trouble to rid the squad of Jenas, Hutton, Palacios, Crouch, Bentley (almost), Bassong, Corluka, Pienaar and now we seem desperate to fill it up again with the exact same level of players. Bizzare logic at the very least

Quite a few of those players were actually the kind of "statement signings" you're looking for when they were made. Jenas was still a very hot prospect, by some mentioned as a future England captain. Bentley was massively expensive and clearly a "big name signing". Hutton was brought in for what was a pretty massive fee for a right back who had never played outside Scotland by our new fancy manager looking to build a team/make a statement.
 
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