Mikey10
Johnny Morrison
Villa without a recognised CB for most of the game, and their first choice striker out too.
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Tottenham Hotspur V Aston Villa
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Villa without a recognised CB for most of the game, and their first choice striker out too.
Robbo
Cecil Poynton
Of course there are bigger issues, but that doesn’t mean we can't or shouldn't react when there are blatant and big errors in the ref's officiating of the game.
Two minutes extra realistically probably wouldn't matter, but we could've equalised. That would've mattered, but we never got the chance.
Moaning about Ange won’t get us anywhere either, but we still do it.
Baleforce
Vinnie Samways
lost their second choice striker in the window as well
glasgowspur
Colin Calderwood
We've a squad with great potential, think there are still some very difficult choices to be made on some.
Two/three out, three four in and I'd be confident.
monkeybarry
Steffen Freund
Trying to quote @Bishop too but can't work out the multi quote
Brighton and Bournemouth have been no better than us over the past 10-15 years.
They've punched about their weight and done brilliantly, but what have they won? Nothing. They've been up and down - so have we.
Arsenal - hate to break it to you, bigger club. Look at the histories. But it's a fair comparison - and they've stuck by their model. They've also had some seriously dodgy Russians. Usmanov etc.
Liverpool is the example that springs to mind for me. FSG have done a great job there. They are "sports businessmen".
One thing all the above have in common - they'd have fired Ange by now. With the possible exception of Arsenal.
None of those have exceeded expectations. Liverpool and Arsenal should be challenging for titles.
We're about on par over Levy's reign - the Mourinho and Conte experiments went wrong.
The Ange one is a disaster.
RigorMortis
Thimotée Atouba
Exactly there seems to be no recognition of his role in this.
I’m not expecting him to come out and say “ Listen mate I’m a pretty brick manager and what more do you expect” in public but to come out with the same narrative week after week when it’s as horrendous as this….
Legohamster
Jack Jull
His interview sounded like he knew he was gone
Gazza
Jimmy Neighbour
No point having Beyoncé singing at the stadium if we are not trying to break the status quo
Chrissivad
Dean Richards
If it's happening, make it quick.
I heard someone talking about this the other day. I haven’t fact checked it but they said we had a bad 8/10 weeks after the Chelsea game where we lost 3 key players including VDV and Romero, but we came home pretty strong in the league with a decent run up to April/May from Feb.
This season we averaged 1.8 points per game with VDV and Romero together and the wheels have come off since they’ve not been together (1.1pt per game).
I’m not defending Ange and I’m neither here nor there on whether he stays or goes. But I think some context is important and people just saying “he’s out of his depth” doesn’t really cover it.
I think his plan A is perfectly decent, and relies heavily on 2 top class CBs, one whose pace does similar for us what Kyle Walker did for Emirates Marketing Project, enabling us to step forward aggressively and play a high line successfully.
I think his limitations are being totally unable to pivot or adjust when he doesn’t have his best players available (or things his own way). He’s had a long injury list for a long time, but has made no visible effort to change things or come up with a plan that suits the players he has, and he’s paying the price.
Gazza
Jimmy Neighbour
Wishful thinking … he’s having bbq koala with levy as we speak
Jurgen the German
Steve Sedgley
Brighton and Bournemouth had a much lower base to start from than us. I mentioned them because they have a plan, they pick managers who play a similar type of football to the previous guy they employed whereas we lurch from one style to another. Same for Liverpool and Arsenal. Not a huge change from Klopp to Slot, there’s continuity and consistency. What would you say the plan is over the last 10 years if you had to judge in terms of out strategy? For me it doesn’t look like we have one and Levy is trying one thing to the next and doesn’t have a clue. It’s been a largely downward curve since poch left other than 1 top 4 finish under Conte. How many more years of downward trajectory do you think we should tolerate?
Bishop
Jimmy Neighbour
Because we don't actually win competitions (and now even games) Tottenham fans need something to crow about.
How a chairman who has 1 competition in 25 years can be the best I have no idea.
But, but, but for me today isn't really about Levy so I don't want to distract from the issue at hand. We are very poorly managed and it's frustrating because as I've said many times on here I actually like Ange and I understand what he's trying to do, but the man has no awareness of where he is or the level of competition he's facing. He's trying to play champagne football with Pepsi cola bottles.
Adjust your setup a bit to make it work with what you have. Fully utilise your squad to ensure specific players are not completely overworked. Buy competent wingers if you're gonna rely on wingplay. Use a fudging DM for godsake, have 4 actual CBs at the start of the season when you know your primary two have historically poor fitness records. These are the things I have to level at Ange's door and that's not even talking about the recruitment, so many issues there that I can't be fudged going into it.
I don't think we are a great team, I don't think we have an inherent right to wing anything, but I do think we have a squad better than 15 in the league table and this manager has us there. We aren't playing to par, we are far, far, far below that and that's on him mainly for me.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
Great comments on the issues we can see
FolkestoneSpur
Steed Malbranque
Are Status Quo playing with Beyonce?? I'd pay to see that!
Sorry I wasn't very clear.
We got a young keeper early and that's good. But the number of games we had of significance in January meant Ange would have benefited from the other two arriving first or second week of the month. That it took til deadline day to sign them was a problem.
I can't believe I still care anymore.
I thought Levy has killed me ages ago and I didn't care anymore buy today has taken me to a new low I didn't think existed.
I hope we get relegated. I hope we end up in league one and his fortune is evaporated as he has to sell for peanuts.
clam.
I thought Levy has killed me ages ago and I didn't care anymore buy today has taken me to a new low I didn't think existed.
I hope we get relegated. I hope we end up in league one and his fortune is evaporated as he has to sell for peanuts.
clam.
Joe Hart comes across very well, some of the best punditary I've heard in a while. He likes Ange, knows the style he wants to play, and comes across as intelligent and thoughtful. Ange should have someone like him as part of his coaching staff and bring him to each club he's at instead of starting fresh with a whole new coaching team.
I would have thought it pretty obvious to everybody that he clearly meant first team squad. But I shouldn't be surprised, people are thirsty to whinge about just about anything that comes out of his mouth now....
It's not as simple as that though. There's more than one side in any transfer deal and they all have to want it to happen.