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I don't think thats true, I think as a fanbase we have a massive siege mentality, we know the club have it in for us
Hahahah well fair enough.

Despite online talk not one Enic protest today. Says alot

Alright calling Ange fat but the bloke who chooses he successor is getting yet another free pass
 
Hahahah well fair enough.

Despite online talk not one Enic protest today. Says alot

Alright calling Ange fat but the bloke who chooses he successor is getting yet another free pass

Because our fans are saps, or they foolishly believe we have the best chairman/owners in the world despite results on the pitch indicating otherwise. He’s delivered the stadium, time for him to move on and let someone else have a go.
 
We are the least siege mentality fanbase out there, alot of other clubs are us v them, we are the most us v us I know. Has been that was since the mid 90s when I noticed the change

It's ironic really given that over the last few years we have become everyone's favourite punch line - the opportunity to create a seige mentality is massive, however we seem to have gone the other way as a fanbase and aimed our ire inwards
 
It's ironic really given that over the last few years we have become everyone's favourite punch line - the opportunity to create a seige mentality is massive, however we seem to have gone the other way as a fanbase and aimed our ire inwards
And the other would be so much more powerful
 
It's ironic really given that over the last few years we have become everyone's favourite punch line - the opportunity to create a seige mentality is massive, however we seem to have gone the other way as a fanbase and aimed our ire inwards

To paraphrase the election adage, fans get the club they deserve.

It would be interesting to go through the match thread and see if the posters who were expecting a pasteing but would be happy as long as we showed up are the ones now moaning that we didn’t win.
They're a good team, brimming with confidence and with momentum behind them and we gave them a game and a scare.
 
I don't get to as many matches as several here obviously, but on average I make about 6-7 games a season (this season being an exception it must be said). From my youthful days as a Shelf ST holder to now, I've seen changes which appear to mirror society in may ways, but there have always been a few individuals who just like to be clams/are clams.

What I notice now more than anything is the level of vitriol and pure bile. Especially in the last 6 to 8 years. Some of it is so toxic that I have to say something/tell perps to STFU, because if we don't stand up against mindless abusive oral diarrhea, then it goes on unchallenged. Generally, the away supporters have always been a bit wiser and more measured IMO. There is (as many have said) an air of entitlement which I suppose runs counter to what I believe in. I believe in Tottenham playing with that sense of audere est facere, and if we win like that it always feels more glorious. I think some of the jolity and humor has also left the game. There's no real sense of joy, it's either 'I should be having this experience anyway' or it's just so serious. I don't see people having a laugh as much as they used to at game, I don't see as many people just smiling and enjoying being in N17 (or on an away day - still a favourite of mine).

I'm going to be 58 in March. I still play once a week, I still feel naively excited whenever I am over and it is match day, I still smile and absord every moment of a match day, and I still believe we will win every game, because what's the point of being a supporter if you don't believe you can win? Slowly but surely, football is trying to squeeze all of that from me, whether it be Levy sacking Pochettino, whether it be some absolute f u c k i n g. t-wat hurling abuse mindlessly at a player (and therefore causing me to react because I won't listen to that brick unchallenged), whether it be the latest vitriolic social media/online 'campaign' to demonize someone, whether it be UEFA, FIFA and the PL conspiring to break players.

But somehow I can't give it up. And I won't.

Great post mate and i could not agree more with all of it, do not lose faith though brother. I know that can be hard with all the noise from the outside [Sky, from supporters who throw a fit every game we lose, social media is full of arsehole wanabees, and the press is full of flimflam most of the time] I want to win EVERY game but after over 60 years of going to the Lane i know that will never happen, i go because Spurs are my biggest love and despite the poor years i have been lucky enough to have had some of the best times of my life seeing us play and win. COYS
 
Seems like another excuse to have a pop at our fans. I think we’re largely the same as most other fanbases in English football, the only two who standout for me as being Uber patient are United and Liverpool fans. Every other set of fans gets the hump after 25 minutes if they’re at not winning against a team they should be beating at home.

Disagree, all fans have some similar behavior

- Spurs fans however completely lap up any clickbait flimflam article/statement/quote and run with it, sexy stuck because we encourage it, the Scum statistically are the bottlers of the EPL era, doesn't stick because their fans won't let it (and they have brick/reactive fans)
- Stadium is utter brick, moaners, always on some players back, then blaming it on the tourists .. it's isn't the tourists bricking on Johnson

I think all the people now who think Ange is out of his depth, should have just a little think about Nuno ... funny how so many people here (and I think this board is fairly reasonable as Spurs fans) felt it was "obvious" Nuno was out of his depth, bad hire, etc. yet he made Europe with Wolves, looks like he will with Forest ...
 
Disagree, all fans have some similar behavior

- Spurs fans however completely lap up any clickbait flimflam article/statement/quote and run with it, sexy stuck because we encourage it, the Scum statistically are the bottlers of the EPL era, doesn't stick because their fans won't let it (and they have brick/reactive fans)
- Stadium is utter brick, moaners, always on some players back, then blaming it on the tourists .. it's isn't the tourists bricking on Johnson

I think all the people now who think Ange is out of his depth, should have just a little think about Nuno ... funny how so many people here (and I think this board is fairly reasonable as Spurs fans) felt it was "obvious" Nuno was out of his depth, bad hire, etc. yet he made Europe with Wolves, looks like he will with Forest ...

Not everyone was down on Nuno iirc.
 
Disagree, all fans have some similar behavior

- Spurs fans however completely lap up any clickbait flimflam article/statement/quote and run with it, sexy stuck because we encourage it, the Scum statistically are the bottlers of the EPL era, doesn't stick because their fans won't let it (and they have brick/reactive fans)
- Stadium is utter brick, moaners, always on some players back, then blaming it on the tourists .. it's isn't the tourists bricking on Johnson

I think all the people now who think Ange is out of his depth, should have just a little think about Nuno ... funny how so many people here (and I think this board is fairly reasonable as Spurs fans) felt it was "obvious" Nuno was out of his depth, bad hire, etc. yet he made Europe with Wolves, looks like he will with Forest ...

But Levy is still the one that pulls the trigger and fires these managers. And keeps going from one managerial style to another unlike Emirates Marketing Project, Brighton, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.
 
where you there mate? serious question, fans were absolutely toxic on Nuno, the stadium was the worst I've expected. And the post/hindsight view was largely -> obvious bad call

Not in the stadium. But I thought he should have been given longer.

At least 6 months.
 
Not in the stadium. But I thought he should have been given longer.

At least 6 months.

Stadium was brick show, and this is my key point about our fans

- Levy/ENIC don't have to follow fan opinion, but to pretend it's not considered is fudging naïve
- The problem with Nuno is the same entitled flimflam, we have whole bunch of our fans who think there is some revisionist history version of Spurs that won trophies every year, was smashing the league and should only be hiring fudging Pep .. 17 fudging trophies in 144 years ...

Said it then, Nuno made sense (if not high profile)
- We just got out of a turbulent/toxic period, needed a safe pair of hands with a decent human in charge, someone who could see through the inevitable mess of rebuilding the entire squad, and in 2-3 years could go for the push on manager
- Our fans just wouldn't let it, the pressure the guy felt to not be "Jose Mk2", to not play his 3 atb and the toxic brickshow in the stadium killed him before he started

But it doesn't matter, you can see we have already made up our minds on Ange ..
 
Stadium was brick show, and this is my key point about our fans

- Levy/ENIC don't have to follow fan opinion, but to pretend it's not considered is fudging naïve
- The problem with Nuno is the same entitled flimflam, we have whole bunch of our fans who think there is some revisionist history version of Spurs that won trophies every year, was smashing the league and should only be hiring fudging Pep .. 17 fudging trophies in 144 years ...

Said it then, Nuno made sense (if not high profile)
- We just got out of a turbulent/toxic period, needed a safe pair of hands with a decent human in charge, someone who could see through the inevitable mess of rebuilding the entire squad, and in 2-3 years could go for the push on manager
- Our fans just wouldn't let it, the pressure the guy felt to not be "Jose Mk2", to not play his 3 atb and the toxic brickshow in the stadium killed him before he started

But it doesn't matter, you can see we have already made up our minds on Ange ..

I actually think that toxicity was more a build-up of anger against Levy/ENIC; Nuno got caught in the crossfire mainly.
Plus it was at a time we were coming out of the lockdown restrictions on crowds etc so i think some of that had been pent-up frustration built up during the Jose period when fans couldn't attend games in person.
 
Great. I hope they all boycott it. Will be better for the rest of us. Although I suspect many of those calling for the boycott don’t actually attend anyway.
Wonder how many of them are boycotting a £94 ticket? Must be rich disgruntled supporters.
Had a few 'discussions' on x/twitter yesterday with some of the most vocal asking for boycotts, etc. None attend games, yet expect STs to waste money by not attending.

Clowns.
Yep. Maybe they’ll head up the High Road, have a moan, get a Chick King fillet burger and watch the game in the Brickies.
Anyone who eats at Chick King and drinks in the bricklayers deserves all they get.
 
Great. I hope they all boycott it. Will be better for the rest of us. Although I suspect many of those calling for the boycott don’t actually attend anyway.

Of course they do not, they just listen to all the dipbricks on T w ATTER etc, and just scream and scream.
 
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