My bet is on the first
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The Official EURO 2012 thread
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My bet is on the first
Kingdawson
Banned
That team would finish 8th at best.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Total brick...
hodgson:
international experience
world cup experience (so knows what you have to do at a tournament away from the family/how to take care of players)
intelligent
good organiser
cheaper
media friendly
harry:
dumb
tactically inept
bad with money
f*cked up every previous club financially
yep, harry certainly is the better option..
As long as you only list the things that fit your argument, no.
englands first team bar injuries should always be
-----------------hart--------------
walker -- cahill -- jones -- cole
------- parker ----- Wheelchair -----
chamberlain ----- gerrard ---- young
-------------- rooney -------------
that team would be feckin decent and actually excites me. bit of the future and experience at the same time. our team at the moment is shocking.
:lol:
RH
- Managed a no pressure Swiss team 20 years ago - the equivalent of Wigan in the Prem - every game is a gift - let's go out there and have some fun
- Was found out in a mediocre Liverpool side as soon as he was given a half-decent team to manage
- has achieved very little in England with bottom half teams apart from avoiding relegation
- Tactically predictable - 4-4-2 to the death
- Shockorama squad selection for the tournament
- Inisistance of playing Lampard and Gerrard in a midfield which has never worked once in 10 years (wait and see how he lines them up, guaranteed)
- Made Gerrard captain - a player who's had arguably his worst PL season in a fcuking decade
HR
- respected by most players
- has the old guard's backing
- can extract the optimum output from a given pool of players
- can motivate and inspire within a limited time-frame
- has the media's backing
Whether Arry is the right man for us is another argument all-together but for the England job I still matain the FA overlooked the best man for the job
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indianspur
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and what about the football??
if what you list above is all it takes to reach the pinnacle of management, then it is very disrespectful to real, hard working managers who rely on preparation, training and tactics in order to gain the right results
If in your opinion Redknapp isnt the right man for us then he is not the right man for England either. All you listed above as his qualities are not enough to actually win the key games, the big matches, in these games a manager needs to prepare the team thoughtfully, expertly, needs to find the tactical edge over the opponent and impart this knowledge onto the players, and then in the game needs to be faultless in making game changing decisions and substitutions.
Internation football and more specifically international tournaments are completely and fundamentally different to club management over months and months of games through seasons, transfers, board meetings, media, etc.
I personally believe HR would have been able to extract the optimum from the players available and managed to deliver respectable results resources permitting.
All those bolded bits are extremely important in any football management job, more so the poisoned chalice which is the under-achieving over-hyped Enlglish team - look at AVB for example - all the gear and no idea how to implement it succesfully.
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indianspur
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look at what someone like L?Âwe has done with the German national team...its no accident they play the way they do, it doesnt come from a tub thumping, cheeky chappy motivation, a lot of planning and execution has gone into the style and effectiveness of the team.
ok, if many are not happy with Hodgson, for whatever reasons, then fair enough.....but dont then throw Redknapp's name into the mix as a better option
crazy
ok, if many are not happy with Hodgson, for whatever reasons, then fair enough.....but dont then throw Redknapp's name into the mix as a better option
crazy
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indianspur
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and what experience does Redknapp have of preparing for and managing in an international tournament.....even someone as great as Cappelo was completely a fish out of water and ballsed up the build up to and the the tournament itself in South Africa. He had no experience of tournament football and it showed.
IMo Redknapp is at his best 5 mins before kick off, in the changing room, a quick rallying speech to pump up the players. This will work well up to a point, but like i said before, top level management, big games, needs much much more than that in order to be a success.
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indianspur
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youve picked the best Tottenham team possible, full of an international mix, against an all English team which is not even full strength......what point do you want to prove?
look at what someone like L?Âwe has done with the German national team...its no accident they play the way they do, it doesnt come from a tub thumping, cheeky chappy motivation, a lot of planning and execution has gone into the style and effectiveness of the team.
ok, if many are not happy with Hodgson, for whatever reasons, then fair enough.....but dont then throw Redknapp's name into the mix as a better option
Germany's success lies in their grassrots - youngsters playing on smaller fields with smaller number teams. Emphasis on passing and technique, not brutesque hoofing. All the way up to U13s, iirc. Low is merely the conclusion of that process, much like Pep at the Qatar Foundation disciples. It is a mindset engraved into their football DNA, a long process which begins a decade before they turn 18, etc.
You make it sound like all that Arry does is tell the players to go our and do well. He's a little more than a motivational speakier, ffs.
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indianspur
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so why dont you want him to remain as the Tottenham manager then? whats missing, whats wrong with him?
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indianspur
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so are you saying it doesnt actually matter who the Germany manager is, or who the Barcelona manager is?? im fascinated to see what happens to a Guardiola-less Barca and whether they will maintain the success
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indianspur
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again though Spurs have an advantage of picking non English players
and Hodsgon and Redknapp as respective managers???? if yes, then England will win,
They need to play a certain system - one which is nearly fool-proof and works 9/10 times. I doubt anyone would tinker with that to be honest. Low is merely an extension of Jurgen's playing pattern - master and apprentice
Until they meet Chelsea and lose on penalties