The Goon Thread

[skyfarer]

I think their onetouch passing has regressed too, esp in getting more direct and pacy but less intelligent and less possession-cultured players like Walcott, Podolski, Gervinho, Giroud, AOX, Gibbs....Cazorla and Arteta are big exceptions but nevertheless these days they are packed with 'lethal' weapons more than lovely stylists. The loss of Song (well when on form) was actually a big one. Though we're in the same position IMO, just without even a Cazorla.

The flashy dribblers get more attention, but I really think a team must be built on a foundation of cultured schemers and orchestrators, with a few big guns. Best of all would be to possess both incredible one-on-one skills with incredible playmaking and vision..step forward, Julian Draxler Looks a technical class above everyone even in Schalke! Seriously if he were a goon we'd never stop hearing about him as the next Messi. :lol:

 

[Jurgen the German]

haha wouldn't surprise anyone. But in game where City will be without Toure. Diaby would be crucial. He'll BOSS that midfield like he does when he plays allowing the likes of Cazorla, Wheelchair to work there magic.

Yeah I've said before that I think Arsenal will turn Emirates Marketing Project over, I would take a draw from that game right now if it was offered.

 

[Jurgen the German]

I think their onetouch passing has regressed too, esp in getting more direct and pacy but less intelligent and less possession-cultured players like Walcott, Podolski, Gervinho, Giroud, AOX, Gibbs....Cazorla and Arteta are big exceptions but nevertheless these days they are packed with 'lethal' weapons more than lovely stylists. The loss of Song (well when on form) was actually a big one. Though we're in the same position IMO, just without even a Cazorla.

The flashy dribblers get more attention, but I really think a team must be built on a foundation of cultured schemers and orchestrators, with a few big guns. Best of all would be to possess both incredible one-on-one skills with incredible playmaking and vision..step forward, Julian Draxler Looks a technical class above everyone even in Schalke! Seriously if he were a goon we'd never stop hearing about him as the next Messi. :lol:

Podolski has been hit and miss, but he comes alive in the box. They don't have RVP, but their midfield is easily better than it was last season as they have Wheelchair back plus Cazorla.

I'd love Spurs to sign Draxler by the way.

 

[Mumorn]

Yeah I've said before that I think Arsenal will turn Emirates Marketing Project over, I would take a draw from that game right now if it was offered.

I think everyone would. a draw would be perfect. If we lose to QPR though, I'd be rooting for a City win.

 

[skyfarer]

Podolski has been hit and miss, but he comes alive in the box. They don't have RVP, but their midfield is easily better than it was last season as they have Wheelchair back plus Cazorla.

I'd love Spurs to sign Draxler by the way.

It's not really about how "alive" an individual player is or even how productive flair he is for me; you can't compose a team of Messis or Ronaldos for a crude example. I think they have lost some intelligence on average over the pitch even though Cazorla is such a clever player and Wheelchair ain't too shabby...it's just that if even just a few of the others cannot pass and move to the same level of precision and speed of thought, then the sort of 'walking the ball into the net' as a team becomes harder, since one of them is going to slow or break down the move or not make the clever run. I prefer a 'decentralized' model of football intelligence (high minimax, high average) over one reliant on one genius playmaker to pull all the strings, even though the former may require much slower building to pull off.

 

[braineclipse]

Or pehaps based on his value to the team and overall form he actually deserves it (bearing in mind what some of his other team-mates earn)?

That's kind of my point...

 

[markysimmo]

They have Diaby back at the weekend, that guy is the bollox

Talk to the 2 lads I know who have STs at Arsenal, they see him far more than you and would not agree he is the gonads

 

[Mumorn]

then they're macarons, which isn't hard to believe with them being gooners :lol:

the guy is so so good. they have definitely missed him.

 

[markysimmo]

then they're macarons, which isn't hard to believe with them being gooners :lol:

the guy is so so good. they have definitely missed him.

They both played football to county standard and one manages a county football side, yes they are both macarons footballing wise

 

[Kingdawson]

Diaby is so so good?:ross:

Jesus Mumorn what are you talking about? he's average, has no position sense, doesn't physically dominate despite his size and is injury prone. Most Gooner fans think he's average personified but when you're seeing the white Jenas known as Ramsey get games then you sort of think every alternative to that is World class.

 

[markysimmo]

I remember when Ramsey was at Cardiff, Man Utd massively wanted him but he signed for the Goons and they saw it as a massive coup

I know he gets dogs abuse from the AFC fans, is he really that crap, maybe a move would freshen his career up ???

 

[Mumorn]

They both played football to county standard and one manages a county football side, yes they are both macarons footballing wise

yet you moan and call premier league footballers turned pundits clueless.

 

[Kingdawson]

I remember when Ramsey was at Cardiff, Man Utd massively wanted him but he signed for the Goons and they saw it as a massive coup

I know he gets dogs abuse from the AFC fans, is he really that crap, maybe a move would freshen his career up ???

I didn't see him at Cardiff tbh but when seeing him for Gooners he's been tinkle poor.

 

[markysimmo]

yet you moan and call premier league footballers turned pundits clueless.

Lets be honest, when has Redknapp Jnr ever said anything of any note as a pundit, GNev has said more in 6 months than Redknapp, Smith, Quinn, Nicholas, Thompson ave ever said put together

and id take the opinon of my mates who watch him every week when fit over you somebody who plays FM all day every day

 

[Mumorn]

Lets be honest, when has Redknapp Jnr ever said anything of any note as a pundit, GNev has said more in 6 months than Redknapp, Smith, Quinn, Nicholas, Thompson ave ever said put together

and id take the opinon of my mates who watch him every week when fit over you somebody who plays FM all day every day

im not disagreeing but what makes your mate any more right than an ex-Premier League footballer? I imagine it's because he's your mate.

don't see what FM has to do with anything, because he's brick on that.

 

[markysimmo]

 

[Mumorn]

By getting rid of a player, they're strengthening

Only Arsenal :ross:

 

[Rossi22]

Diaby's boss, much more effective player(when fit, which is never) than Wheelchair.

 

[markysimmo]

Diaby's boss, much more effective player(when fit, which is never) than Wheelchair.

Diaby is more effective than Wheelchair !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[glorygloryeze]

Gooner fan sent me this...

Arsenal wages:



Source: Sulia.com (apparently used by journalists such as Guillem Ballague..)

Interseting...

(Not sure how to make the images bigger..anybody who can let me know that would be great)