Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
Well that's not true because Rose went on loan before Ekotto got injured.
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The Goon Thread
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Well that's not true because Rose went on loan before Ekotto got injured.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
So player a isnt better than player b because hes getting loaned out to get game time at a Premier League club?
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Could we not recall him early then?
Even so, Benny has no competition for his job apart from Verts who isn't even a left back.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
I'm just saying we don't exactly have a great deal of competition for left back, but Rose still gets sent out on loan. He didn't even stand out when he was on loan at Bristol City.
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
Danny is at a big disadvantage in that he's playing for Sunderland and most fans as illustrated by many on here only care about the top 6 and just dismiss anyone else. He's had a real bad stroke of luck in that if Benny had gotten his injury just a week earlier then he could have ended up being the starting left back for a club competing towards the top of the table rather than the bottom, he's also unfortunate in that he's competing with another very good player in his position. Gibbs on the otherhand is rated higher because he plays for Arsenal, who cares what he plays like and whether he can manage two games in a row, he plays for the Arsenal. It's not like he has anyone to compete with either, well, Andre Santos but he's hardly competition.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Andros Townsend, Jake Livermore, Iago Falque, Tom Carroll are 4 players who haven't stood out on loans and not looked the best. From what I hear Ashley Cole didnt look good on his loan at Palace neither when he was younger.
If Gibbs was at Spurs, he'd probably of been sent out on loan too because he is no where near Ekotto's level.
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
No, we can only recall him in January, by which time BAE will be fit again.
Because he was played as a left winger, he's not a good left winger. You play Ekotto there and he'd not do too well either. He's standing out at Sunderland though, at Premier League level, which means more to me than not doing well out of position at a Championship side.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
He's played 12 games in the league for them this season so it's not like he's hardly got a look in. He's injury prone too.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Agree he's not close to Ektto.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
I imagine that is why we sent Rose out on loan. Ekotto has been a consistently solid performer for us the past 3 or so years and I doubt we expected him to get injured (still pretty lazy to think that though) so we sent Rose out on loan (who wants first team football) to get more Premier League experience which he is getting (and from what I hear been one of Sunderlands best players this season) and we thought because of Verts experience at LB that if Ekotto ever DID get injured he'd just step in.
I believe we can't recall Rose due to it being a Prem loan or something along those lines? Otherwise I am pretty sure we would have done.
I believe we can't recall Rose due to it being a Prem loan or something along those lines? Otherwise I am pretty sure we would have done.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Personally, I can't ever see Rose playing consistently for a top 6-8 team in the premier league.
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
What's your point? You can tell me that you've watched loads of Arsenal games and that he's been fantastic but I won't believe you, because I know it's not true.
Danny needs a break, by that I mean something going in his favour for once. GHod forbid that Benny has an injury relapse but if it meant Danny being recalled in January then that's the chance he needs, I'd miss Benny but I know that Danny would come in, play very well(again, if given the chance) and Spurs fans would be eating their own words by the end of the season. At this moment in time it looks as though Benny will be back soon and Rose will carry on playing well at Sunderland, then come the summer we'll almost be back at square one again.
Naughton had a generally acceptable performance on Sunday but personally I found it pretty agonising at just how limited we were down the left, we'd have been so much better if Rose was there.
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Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
I never said he was brilliant, I just think he is better than Rose. As I said to Mumorn, I don't see Rose making it for a team in the top 6-8 in the prem.
You said he can't get a game for Arsenal, but he's started more than half their league games.
Superted
Jonathan Woodgate
I'm in the Wheelchair over rated camp. I'll lay my bias on the table, but I don't think he's worthy of the hype.
The way people go on about him, he should have the same impact as Gazza in Italia 90 where he took a laborious England team to a spot kick away from a WC final. Could Wheelchair do that?
The way people go on about him, he should have the same impact as Gazza in Italia 90 where he took a laborious England team to a spot kick away from a WC final. Could Wheelchair do that?
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
I don't remember saying this.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
Wheelchair would be too busy passing sideways.
Agree about Wheelchair and about Gazza but that England team had a front four of Waddle, Beardsley, Lineker and Barnes. To say they were laborious is a little futile. All of those players would walk into any England team in the last ten years.
in fairness would Modrics stats have been much different ?
like with Luka i don't think goals and assists are quite his area of play