Kingdawson
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Re: Central defenders
Christopher Samba...what's he up to now?
Christopher Samba...what's he up to now?
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The Centre Back thread
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Re: Central defenders
Seriously If they go down how about Bassong???
Just saw he was dropped v Chelsea lol
Seriously If they go down how about Bassong???
Just saw he was dropped v Chelsea lol
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
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How many times have you seen him at centre back in the last handful of seasons?
Whoscored has all his 5 appearances this season as a right back. Last time he had over 10 PL appearances was in 11/12, when I think he was primarily used as a right back. How much do we actually know about his current ability as a centre back?
Both under Mancini and under Pellegini they've had some serious issues at centre back from time to time and he hasn't been anywhere near being a regular starter there. That might be injury problems, but if that's the case how is he an upgrade on Kaboul?
Agree about Ben Davies, but Richards? Not so sure.
Yeah, the injuries are amongst the issues I think.
Lescott - a bit much of a muchness again. Again someone that needs a good player next to him organizing the back 4 and "holding his hand" I think. And he's another left footed centre back, ok if Verts leaves, but if we hold on to Verts that might be an issue.
Jagielka - Definitely the right player type imo, but not a chance. Perhaps he would leave, more money and late in his career and all that, but Everton would demand much more than Levy would sanction for a player his age.
We desperately need more players that can organize.
I'm ok with Dawson as a squad/backup option. Home grown too, probably won't get a ton of money for him. But he needs someone next to him that can help him along, never seen a player look better than he usually does over time because he's been next to Dawson. The Kaboul/Dawson failure illustrates the problem, both can look very good next to the right player, but they need that player next to them.
How many times have you seen him at centre back in the last handful of seasons?
Whoscored has all his 5 appearances this season as a right back. Last time he had over 10 PL appearances was in 11/12, when I think he was primarily used as a right back. How much do we actually know about his current ability as a centre back?
Both under Mancini and under Pellegini they've had some serious issues at centre back from time to time and he hasn't been anywhere near being a regular starter there. That might be injury problems, but if that's the case how is he an upgrade on Kaboul?
Agree about Ben Davies, but Richards? Not so sure.
Yeah, the injuries are amongst the issues I think.
Lescott - a bit much of a muchness again. Again someone that needs a good player next to him organizing the back 4 and "holding his hand" I think. And he's another left footed centre back, ok if Verts leaves, but if we hold on to Verts that might be an issue.
Jagielka - Definitely the right player type imo, but not a chance. Perhaps he would leave, more money and late in his career and all that, but Everton would demand much more than Levy would sanction for a player his age.
We desperately need more players that can organize.
I'm ok with Dawson as a squad/backup option. Home grown too, probably won't get a ton of money for him. But he needs someone next to him that can help him along, never seen a player look better than he usually does over time because he's been next to Dawson. The Kaboul/Dawson failure illustrates the problem, both can look very good next to the right player, but they need that player next to them.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
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Are you saying that Chiriches is someone that can organize a back 4/centre back partnership? Because if not then we're left relying on one man to be that player, and that's Vertonghen that might be desperate to leave.
And honestly I think it's a lot to expect that he can, he still looked very nervous at his last PL start. Big step up to make for him to start taking charge.
Very good shout imo. Right age, and a year left on his contract according to transfermarkt. Wouldn't be cheap, but wouldn't cost the world either I imagine.
The kind of signing I think Redknapp would have been all over, and exactly the kind of signing we need right now to make us better immediately and give some of our less experienced players a chance to improve next to someone that can help them along.
Don't think Garay is anywhere near possible with the amount of top teams likely to be after a new centre back this summer.
Are you saying that Chiriches is someone that can organize a back 4/centre back partnership? Because if not then we're left relying on one man to be that player, and that's Vertonghen that might be desperate to leave.
And honestly I think it's a lot to expect that he can, he still looked very nervous at his last PL start. Big step up to make for him to start taking charge.
Very good shout imo. Right age, and a year left on his contract according to transfermarkt. Wouldn't be cheap, but wouldn't cost the world either I imagine.
The kind of signing I think Redknapp would have been all over, and exactly the kind of signing we need right now to make us better immediately and give some of our less experienced players a chance to improve next to someone that can help them along.
Don't think Garay is anywhere near possible with the amount of top teams likely to be after a new centre back this summer.
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It staggers me that we still rely on him as much as we do. Dawson has never been good enough for a team pushing for top 4, he struggles against pass and move football and often gets dragged all over the place without the pace to recover. Put him up against a team using the long ball and a target man and he'll look comfortable, the only problem for him is I can count the number of those type of teams in the PL on one hand.
The guys been a loyal servant to the club but I'd go as far as to sell him this summer and have Kaboul as backup.
Verts, Chiriches, Kaboul, ???????
I'd like it if we got Mehdi Benatia from Roma, he's been in great form this season after his move from Udinese, tall, strong in the tackle, but more importantly more mobile than Dawson.
It staggers me that we still rely on him as much as we do. Dawson has never been good enough for a team pushing for top 4, he struggles against pass and move football and often gets dragged all over the place without the pace to recover. Put him up against a team using the long ball and a target man and he'll look comfortable, the only problem for him is I can count the number of those type of teams in the PL on one hand.
The guys been a loyal servant to the club but I'd go as far as to sell him this summer and have Kaboul as backup.
Verts, Chiriches, Kaboul, ???????
I'd like it if we got Mehdi Benatia from Roma, he's been in great form this season after his move from Udinese, tall, strong in the tackle, but more importantly more mobile than Dawson.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
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Tim Sherwood
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Various reports claim Tottenham Hotspur have set their sights on Cagliari defender Davide Astori this summer. #THFC
Hotspur Related @HotspurRelated
Various reports claim Tottenham Hotspur have set their sights on Cagliari defender Davide Astori this summer. #THFC
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Someone give me the lowdown. What's his English like? Is he Dutch like Vertonghen?
Someone give me the lowdown. What's his English like? Is he Dutch like Vertonghen?
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He's been at Cagliari for years and you have to wonder why none of the big Italian teams have snapped him up by now which normally happens with homegrown talent.
He's been at Cagliari for years and you have to wonder why none of the big Italian teams have snapped him up by now which normally happens with homegrown talent.
Kingdawson
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He's left footed too right?
He's left footed too right?
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
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Never seen him play, but I have seen Astori being linked a lot of places in the media. Not all that rare for a central defender to develop to a higher level at around his age.
Been working his way into the Italy squad and occasionally been getting games too. A sign of quality at least.
Never seen him play, but I have seen Astori being linked a lot of places in the media. Not all that rare for a central defender to develop to a higher level at around his age.
Been working his way into the Italy squad and occasionally been getting games too. A sign of quality at least.
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Mangala is joining city in a double deal with a midfielder from there for £40m.
Mangala is joining city in a double deal with a midfielder from there for £40m.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
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Does anyone think we could potentially try to lure Coloccini to the club?
I know there's been a lot of talk about him wanting to return to Argentina, but in terms of culture and air travel time London is about half way there from Saudi Sportswashing Machine I would estimate.
32, but very experienced and PL proven, has been demanding a move so might force it and not cost the world, experienced in the league and a leader that seems capable of organizing a back 4. Argentinian so him and Lamela could hang out, eat steaks and talk about the injustice of the Falklands situation...
Could he be a Gallas/Naybet type signing for us?
Does anyone think we could potentially try to lure Coloccini to the club?
I know there's been a lot of talk about him wanting to return to Argentina, but in terms of culture and air travel time London is about half way there from Saudi Sportswashing Machine I would estimate.
32, but very experienced and PL proven, has been demanding a move so might force it and not cost the world, experienced in the league and a leader that seems capable of organizing a back 4. Argentinian so him and Lamela could hang out, eat steaks and talk about the injustice of the Falklands situation...
Could he be a Gallas/Naybet type signing for us?