Should I have instead stated the vast majority of the adult population of gaza? Splitting hairs much? You understand the point but you try to retort by claiming there's kids in the region.... that's irrelevant to the fact that the vast majority of adults are supporters of Hamas
Anyway, check out this video and educate yourself a bit more:
Re: the video
"Debate me with facts"
- your argument is based on a story book....
"Palestinians don't have a right to the area because Palestine didn't exist until the land was reclassified by the Romans."
- Yeah, you might want to have a look at how Israel came into existence. You can't have it both ways.
"The other Arab nations treat Jews really badly and have done for ages."
- Yeah, no brick. It's not a very nice area, especially when it comes to religious fundamentalism. And if you believe the story book, it's not a new thing - the Philistines and the Israelites fighting is in there.
The Arabs don't like you. That's not, however, an excuse to oppress Palestinians or commit war crimes if you also want to be part of the international community. And if you think it is, and it's justified, fine - then deal with the vilification that comes along with it and understand you make yourself fair game, and vice versa. Sadly, you can't have it both ways. And the international community rules come from a place of colonial power and western privilege. That doesn't mean they are appropriate for every region of the world.
"That's what happens when you try to destroy your neighbours; you might well lose and have to pay the price".
- In the sphere of human cruelty, he has a point. So he obviously agrees that Hamas had the right to do what it did - because, again, you can't have it both ways.
Calling out the existence of UNRWA?! Really?! If it exists, it exists for a reason. To try to protect the civilians. Calling that out as anything other than humanitarian in existence shows a very ugly side to his moral (sorry, "fact based") high ground.
This guy thinks the Jews have a right to the land, but his argument is based on a story book and points in time that suit his argument.
- Jews have no more or less right to the land than Palestinians do or than I do using the premise of his own argument.
His positions are very poorly thought through but ultimately lead to a position that humanity has to do what humanity has always done re: land - so probably best that Israel opens itself up to full on war with the Arab world and fight over whose book is right. The Arab world don't want the Jewish in the region. We all know how human history concludes these issues - seems like there is quite the appetite for it from this guy. With the reports of ISIL, Hezbollah and Iran already involved, maybe that's where we already are.
Again, my conclusion is as such:
Hamas is disgusting. They don't operate by international rules. They also don't pretend to.
Israel has a legitimate right to DEFEND its people. That does not include the indiscriminate bombing it has undertaken or the war crimes it has undertaken. It's actions are disgusting.
And THAT is why Israel are "held to a high standard". Not higher than anyone else that signs up to international laws, but higher than the likes of Hamas et al.
Israel has, once again, shown that it cannot act appropriately as part of the international community it wants to be part of. Perhaps it's genuinely not possible to do so.
Ultimately this all comes to one question, which I'll word in two ways:
-Can Israel (or any other non Arab nation) exist in that region in relative peace?
-Can Jews (and almost certainly any other non Arab religion) coexist in the region?
The answer to that is almost certainly no. So the choice is for one side to leave or war until the issue is solved - such has been human history.
The capacity of humans to take the fight in the fight or flight response and apply it to ideological survival rather than physical survival is quite incredible, and equally pathetic.
