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Saido Berahino

Signing Berahino would potentially be a great move because he wont have to sit on the bench behind Kane. If we buy a traditional forward in the mould of Harry then we have two players going for one spot. If we buy Berahino he's versatility means he wont just fill in for Kane against lesser teams and through injuries, but both can be in the starting 11 at the same time.
Your point is a valid one, although I'm not sure he's good enough to be ahead of Son/Lamella/Dembele/Eriksen amongst others going for those three slots behind at the moment....
 
Signing Berahino would potentially be a great move because he wont have to sit on the bench behind Kane. If we buy a traditional forward in the mould of Harry then we have two players going for one spot. If we buy Berahino he's versatility means he wont just fill in for Kane against lesser teams and through injuries, but both can be in the starting 11 at the same time.

But Berahino would still have to sit on the bench because he's not as good as Son, Lamela or Dembele, nor as high potential as Njie (maybe Oduwa). He'd basically be taking Chadli's squad place, which isn't worth £25m

We've already got loads of versatile forwards. But not one who can really do the #9 role effectively for any extended period.

Someone like Dembele (too young to expect to be starting) or Depoitre (minor league journeyman who might just do a Pelle) sound far more logical to me.
 
I don't think Chadli up front would work,but we have seen next to nothing of him as a striker - so not sure how you can say he's looked very poor as a striker....

I saw him play live vs Stoke at whl he looked completely lost and didn't look natural as a striker should .. all against a very poor team.
 
I saw him play live vs Stoke at whl he looked completely lost and didn't look natural as a striker should .. all against a very poor team.
Are you talking about the game this season? If so Kane played up front until he came off with about twenty five to go. I can't remember if Chadli went up front after that, but even if he did you cant make a proper assessment on him in that position in twenty five minutes....
 
Your point is a valid one, although I'm not sure he's good enough to be ahead of Son/Lamella/Dembele/Eriksen amongst others going for those three slots behind at the moment....
This is pretty much my issue with SB. I like him as a player but the EPL is our primary focus and Kane is our striker. Which means we'll be paying 20m+ for a player and not play him in his best position.

And in his 2nd best position he'll be competing against specialists in those positions and he's probably not as good as them. So if he plays he makes our team worse as he'll be displacing a specialist. And if he doesn't he'll be a very expensive cover player.

At 10m-15m it's a yes all day everyday. But for 20-25m I'll have to pass.
 
Are you talking about the game this season? If so Kane played up front until he came off with about twenty five to go. I can't remember if Chadli went up front after that, but even if he did you cant make a proper assessment on him in that position in twenty five minutes....

I would usually agree but i really was watching him closely ... and he honestly was a feather in the wind.

I wouldn't entertain him as a striker. Don't you think Poch would have tried him more often if he thought that he could do a job?
 
I would usually agree but i really was watching him closely ... and he honestly was a feather in the wind.

I wouldn't entertain him as a striker. Don't you think Poch would have tried him more often if he thought that he could do a job?
No mate, I was just questioning you saying Chadli has looked poor as a striker when he has played almost no minutes in that position for us- I just don't think you could make a judgement on such little time up top.

Do I think he'd made a decent striker? Not at all....
 
No mate, I was just questioning you saying Chadli has looked poor as a striker when he has played almost no minutes in that position for us- I just don't think you could make a judgement on such little time up top.

Do I think he'd made a decent striker? Not at all....


Ordinarily like i said i don't think that was enough time to judge him as a player but he showed nothing that would suggest that he could even try to play as a striker. Andy boothe looked more of a goal that put it that way.

Usually if you see a player you can see even a glimmer ...
 
I think he will be sold this coming window.They for whatever reason would rather sell him to anyone but us.If however we are the only takers then there will be pressure on Peace to sell and give money to Pullis to upgrade their squad.
 
Third game in a row that he did not make it off the bench.

Jeremy Peace might not want to deal with Spurs - but im pretty sure, Pulis would take those £15m+ any day of the week.

Still not sure, he is what we need - but if Poch wants him, then i am all for it.

Games like today showed, how valuable it is to have a proper striker option on the bench.
 
But Berahino would still have to sit on the bench because he's not as good as Son, Lamela or Dembele, nor as high potential as Njie (maybe Oduwa). He'd basically be taking Chadli's squad place, which isn't worth £25m

We've already got loads of versatile forwards. But not one who can really do the #9 role effectively for any extended period.

Someone like Dembele (too young to expect to be starting) or Depoitre (minor league journeyman who might just do a Pelle) sound far more logical to me.
Why do you think N'Jie has higher potential than Berahino?.... N'Jie scored 7 goals in 37 games for Lyon, that is a goal every 5.3 games. Berahino has scored 22 goals in 80 games for West Brom, that is a goal every 3.6 games. The two players are exactly the same age, both being 22 years old. Berahino has scored his goals for a week team in a strong league, whereas N'Jie has scored his goals a much stronger team in a weaker league.
 
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Chadli's more physical and can play with his back to goal - just more of a like-for-like with Kane.

Berahino plays on the shoulder, but we've already got Njie to do that

Chadli is not physical. He is a big guy but he simply doesn't use his physique on any level to show that
 
Why do you think N'Jie has higher potential than Berahino?.... N'Jie scored 7 goals in 37 games for Lyon, that is a goal every 5.3 games. Berahino has scored 22 goals in 80 games for West Brom, that is a goal every 3.6 games. The two players are exactly the same age, both being 22 years old. Berahino has scored his goals for a week team in a strong league, whereas N'Jie has scored his goals a much stronger team in a weaker league.
I like both players, not sure who has the higher ceiling though.

But I imagine people rate Njie because last year he got 7 goals and 7 assists in 15 starts. Not too shabby. Plus it's a big improvement from his season before that. So people are hoping the trend continues with us.

But having seen him, he's a raw talent whereas SB is closer to the finished article
 
This is pretty much my issue with SB. I like him as a player but the EPL is our primary focus and Kane is our striker. Which means we'll be paying 20m+ for a player and not play him in his best position.

And in his 2nd best position he'll be competing against specialists in those positions and he's probably not as good as them. So if he plays he makes our team worse as he'll be displacing a specialist. And if he doesn't he'll be a very expensive cover player.

At 10m-15m it's a yes all day everyday. But for 20-25m I'll have to pass.

It's a fair point. But you want the best possible player as back up for Kane. Someone who can compete with him, rotate in or even keep him out the team. We don't want a player who's clearly inferior to Kane. Berahino scored 20 odd last season in this league. He might be a little rusty now, but he'll also be fresh. Having the ability to play the supporting roles - and Kane himself can drop into the #10 role at times - can be a positive. An added string to his bow, if he is able to switch position, or come on to help score a goal from one of the wide spots.
 
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Chadli is not physical. He is a big guy but he simply doesn't use his physique on any level to show that

Also the running required to play as a lone forward is not something I can see Chadli rising to, he often gets shown up for lacking in work rate when compared to the rest of the team minus Eriksen. His one redeeming feature is he does have a knack for scoring, but with his back to goal leading the line I'm not sure he'd be effective.
 
Also the running required to play as a lone forward is not something I can see Chadli rising to, he often gets shown up for lacking in work rate when compared to the rest of the team minus Eriksen. His one redeeming feature is he does have a knack for scoring, but with his back to goal leading the line I'm not sure he'd be effective.

Chadli in his first season scored a reasonable numb and last season had an excellent return but I feel he offers very little else and his goals can be spread around more this season. His lack of work rate would not make him an option for me as forward cover... He averages less than half a tackle a game and makes no effort to do the defensive side needed
 
With N'jie out after knee surgey, I'd argue we should buy this guy although the problem is that he has had very little first team football this year.
 
I have a strange feeling that him and Yarmolenko will be Chelsea players come the end of January. Not sure why, just a feeling. They need strikers and wide men, Peace doesn't want to deal with Levy (which would likely see him losing face) and Abramovich has his post-Soviet Eastern European connections to call upon.
 
Why do you think N'Jie has higher potential than Berahino?.... N'Jie scored 7 goals in 37 games for Lyon, that is a goal every 5.3 games. Berahino has scored 22 goals in 80 games for West Brom, that is a goal every 3.6 games. The two players are exactly the same age, both being 22 years old. Berahino has scored his goals for a week team in a strong league, whereas N'Jie has scored his goals a much stronger team in a weaker league.

I really don't think that's a good measure of potential.

First of all Clinton only had 15 starts for Lyon in the league. Looking at goals per minute paints a somewhat different picture to what you're saying:

Clinton played 1589 minutes of League 1 football for Lyon scoring 7 goals. A goal every 227th minute.
Berahino so far has 5029 minutes of PL football for WBA scoring 22 goals. A goal every 228th minute.
So far Berahino has 2 assists during his time at WBA. Clinton had 7 in the league last season for Lyon (none before that).

Under Pulis Berahino has often played wide for WBA, but before that he seemed to play mainly as a striker. I didn't watch Lyon, but from what has been said and written Clinton played wide quite a bit for Lyon - they certainly had someone else as their main goalscoring striker in Lacazette. Obviously playing up front will usually mean more goals scored.

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I continue to scratch my head about Berahino. But if we sign him I will trust him, Poch and the transfer committee to deliver.
 
So Mr peace you turned down around 20mill for Berehino and he is making no contribution to your team.What a great chairman you are.
 
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