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Seedy Ron said:
"Diane Abbott becomes shadow home secretary"

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Jezza really doesn't help himself.
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The woman with the son in private education? good socialist her.
 
johnola said:
Hiw many famines have we experienced under the combined years of conservative stewardship?
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famines? do you mean in Africa or England.

I am not a conservative but they get so much sh*t and most of it is for having to clear up Labour's mess. I wish Labour had won in 2008 because it would have been the last we would have seen of those economic departsfor 50 years.

Can not believe the are people on here who think we should get into more debt. We will have even less wiggle room when the next big crash comes.

Fracking will help the country so is a good thing. Next they need to get the lazy sods who have not worked for twenty years, back into work and I am not talking about people with cancer or MS or proper illnesses but those lazy cnuts we all know who never work, that and get rid of the license fee and they will be onto a good start.
 
johnola said:
Well if the rights of the many are irrelevant to you please accept responsibility for feeding your kids yourself.
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they are and I do

when you say rights, I would say everyone has the right to be who they are, gay straight whatever. But this whole rights thing has gone to far, children at my son's school are going on about not being able to take water bottles into lessons being against their human rights. Makes me wonder how we managed to go more then 2 and a half hours without water when I was at school.

I do not like the young generation 18-30 but I will positively despise the ones after them.

Generation snowflake, I hope they fcuking melt.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
they are and I do

when you say rights, I would say everyone has the right to be who they are, gay straight whatever. But this whole rights thing has gone to far, children at my son's school are going on about not being able to take water bottles into lessons being against their human rights. Makes me wonder how we managed to go more then 2 and a half hours without water when I was at school.

I do not like the young generation 18-30 but I will positively despise the ones after them.

Generation snowflake, I hope they fcuking melt.
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Not talking about social justic warrior gonads but the difference between a society run by an elected body and a society run by an unaccountable tyranny.
 
Here is something very interesting that has appeared over the past few pages - all my anti Tory conference points have been perceived as pro Corbyn.

Just because you don't like the alternative doesn't mean you have to accept what is on offer if it is abhorrent.

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milo said:
A view from over the pond

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...cbed64-8b39-11e6-bff0-d53f592f176e_story.html
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Interesting read, i also read the comments after and this one sums it up.

( Reading through the comments it's clear that the US pundits and their UK counterparts are singing from different hymn sheets. The US contributors seem to believe that the EU is a powerful united monolith that works and that the British have somehow managed to shoot themselves in the foot by allowing a few desperate inidividuals whose jobs have been outsourced to wreck their future.

On the other hand the British contributors have pointed out the desperate fallacies and follies that bedevil the EU. These have caused many of its members to have to deal with dissenting factions, who have some very valid (and unanswerable) points to make. Many progressives truly believe that the EU is a dead man walking and it's only a matter of time before its bereaucracy turns it into the 21st century Titanic. Hence better escape sooner rather than later.

Anne Applebaum and many other American pundits have the arrogance to believe their own analysis without recourse to people outside the London beltway (M25 to us Brits). A proper investigative journalist would accept the result and then find out why what had happened did. Perhaps that's beyond Ms. Applebaum.)
 
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It is already in the vanguard of countries that choose to present themselves as Museums of the Industrial Revolution. To give them credit, they do a fine job of that. Now set to be the World leader, since they no longer make anything that anyone wants to buy. British cars......owned by German, Indian and Japanese companies. British trains......owned and made by the French, Germans and Canadians. British electric utilities and nuclear power stations......owned by the French and Chinese. Sad little country off the coast of Europe, dreaming of "Punching Above its Weight" and "A Special Relationship" with the USA."


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parklane1 said:
Good for you, you still have a opinion though.
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Indeed - but I will ensure the evidence is balanced.
As it is question was about to what extent UK law exceeds and/or tows the minimum requirement set out by EU law.

The article linked gives a good overview of that. A balanced overview (within the implicit limits of any journalistic piece) without being a document that runs to hundreds of pages.
 
monkeybarry said:
Indeed - but I will ensure the evidence is balanced.
As it is question was about to what extent UK law exceeds and/or tows the minimum requirement set out by EU law.

The article linked gives a good overview of that. A balanced overview (within the implicit limits of any journalistic piece) without being a document that runs to hundreds of pages.
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I do not doubt your sources mate or the job you do, however you saie earlier the following

The EU is nowhere near perfect, but if you think this Tory Govt is going to improve the situation you describe then you are in a very unpleasant awakening unfortunately

Now that may be your opinion ( which of course you are entitled to), but it reeks of i'm right and those who have a broader opinion are wrong. Now you may be the best analyst in the world but that is just your opinion NOT fact.
 
parklane1 said:
I do not doubt your sources mate or the job you do, however you saie earlier the following

The EU is nowhere near perfect, but if you think this Tory Govt is going to improve the situation you describe then you are in a very unpleasant awakening unfortunately

Now that may be your opinion ( which of course you are entitled to), but it reeks of i'm right and those who have a broader opinion are wrong. Now you may be the best analyst in the world but that is just your opinion NOT fact.
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Actually it smacks of looking at Tory policy and posturing and applying Tory ideals to the upcoming political landscape. So it's more of a reasoned outlook/forecast....but yes that is partly opinion based.

However, your issue was that the article I posted "fit my narrative" (I'm paraphrasing) - when actually it was an appropriate source in response to the question. If you want to get into the minutae of that, I'd argue the article actually weakness my argument.
 
monkeybarry said:
Actually it smacks of looking at Tory policy and posturing and applying Tory ideals to the upcoming political landscape. So it's more of a reasoned outlook/forecast....but yes that is partly opinion based.

However, your issue was that the article I posted "fit my narrative" (I'm paraphrasing) - when actually it was an appropriate source in response to the question. If you want to get into the minutae of that, I'd argue the article actually weakness my argument.
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I have no issue at all, all i was doing is replying to a earlier post of yours to another poster which was the following.

Clear and referencible?!
Sounds like a brexit argument to me - "no source is reliable unless it says what I want it to"

My point was you seemed to be doing just what you were accusing the other poster of doing.
 
parklane1 said:
I have no issue at all, all i was doing is replying to a earlier post of yours to another poster which was the following.

Clear and referencible?!
Sounds like a brexit argument to me - "no source is reliable unless it says what I want it to"

My point was you seemed to be doing just what you were accusing the other poster of doing.
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Except the article didn't exclusively back up my point - so I wasn't
 
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