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After reading that there is no need to waste a second on triggering Article 50.
Let's get the heck outta there
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Politics, politics, politics
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After reading that there is no need to waste a second on triggering Article 50.
Let's get the heck outta there
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Does a Free Trade area really require absolute freedom of movement for the citizens living within the area to work?
Freedom of movement seems the absolute proxy for national boundaries within the EU to be erased and form a single unified state.
A bit like how in the UK people living in, say, Dundee are free to move to say London, or Birmingham to find work as they are all living in the same nation state.
Similar, people living in Granada in Spain travelling to Madrid for work etc.
Freedom of movement seems the absolute proxy for national boundaries within the EU to be erased and form a single unified state.
A bit like how in the UK people living in, say, Dundee are free to move to say London, or Birmingham to find work as they are all living in the same nation state.
Similar, people living in Granada in Spain travelling to Madrid for work etc.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
I find it more than disappointing. It ought to be unthinkable to anyone to have a Prime Minister who is against equal rights for all the nation's citizens (and abstaining in such a key vote is akin to being against). The reason she gave for abstaining on the vote was "I cannot vote for a measure that risks centuries of faith-based belief in marriage."
That is simply unacceptable. Religious beliefs should not interfere with government and law.
milo
Jack L. Jones
I agree
Hotshot-Tottenham
Edgar Davids
You're right.
Equal marriage for gays doesn't risk faith-based straight marriages at all.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
could not agree more
that she's a GHod botherer bothers me greatly, one would hope we'd be picking from a pool of greater intelligence
So is May. It will almost certainly be one of those two.
If it's option 2, and we're allowing free movement then why not just continue to allow free movement and continue free trade?
Brucey Bonus being that it might tinkle off the UKIP types enough to go and live elsewhere (while we all drown in irony)
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
depressing
milo
Jack L. Jones
I think the suggestion there is that it is a staging post whilst further negotiations are carried out but I could see the political will to continue drying up at that point.
Because in the eyes of the EU, all that regulation and cost is a benefit, not a hindrance. They really are that caught up in their little world of bureaucracy that they think we're better off contributing £Bs and having our farmers paid for than not.
NickTB
Kasey Keller
I think I prefer my politicians to make politics their life
..despite the fact that he started in politics over two decades ago..and will remain an MEP until the end..he's got his country back...
milo
Jack L. Jones
The EU can't be seen to reward us for voting leave or else it might encourage other countries to do like wise.
I think that the best that we can expect is a rehashing of the deal Cameron struck with some slight tinkering to make it look like we got further concessions on freedom of movement.
The freedom to work that Dan Hannan has spoken about since the referendum is not a million miles away from the benefit limits that Cameron got. That re-badged and some controls on movement from new member states is my guess at where we'll end up on immigration with us retaining EEA access and contributing the same to the budget.