Politics, politics, politics

[milo]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's how it plays out, but it would be entirely wrong IMO.

The only way to do this would be to offer different terms of leaving to another referendum - ie one group presenting the "UKIP" case for restricted movement/restricted access to the free market and the other presenting the case for free movement and free access.

I would be very interested in seeing what the results would be if we had a vote on (very roughly) the following options:

Status quo
Norway
Turkey
WTO

 

[milo]

You are both spot on, just because one side lost the vote gives them no moral right to insist on anything but. Bunch of bad losers.

Which flavour of Brexit won the referendum? There is the world of difference between a deal similar to Norway and trading on WTO terms. Do you think that Parliament should not get a say in this?

 

[milo]

I can only assume everyone has told Comrade Osborne he's for the bin considering the way he keeps talking down the economy lately.

Rumour yesterday was that Gove is trying to talk him into staying on as Chancellor if he wins the leadership election.

 

[milo]

The Brexit Plan

http://thebrexitplan.com

 

[milo]

@scaramanga @galeforce and anyone else interested - this HoL Library Briefing Paper looking at Parliament's role in exit is thorough and well worth reading.

http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/LLN-2016-0034#fullreport

 

[scaramanga]

I would be very interested in seeing what the results would be if we had a vote on (very roughly) the following options:

Status quo
Norway
Turkey
WTO

I suspect that the leave vote would lean towards Norway but be split.

To make that a fair choice, you really need to split the status quo into 3 options too. That or just split leave into 3 without the remain option (seeing as that bit has already been done).

 

[Hotshot-Tottenham]

The Brexit Plan

http://thebrexitplan.com

Very good.

More subtle than I thought.

I was expecting a gif of Boris cycling off into the distance, hair flapping in the wind.

 

[milo]

I suspect that the leave vote would lean towards Norway but be split.

To make that a fair choice, you really need to split the status quo into 3 options too. That or just split leave into 3 without the remain option (seeing as that bit has already been done).

I'm not sure how you could split status quo *insert Rick Parfitt joke here*

 

[milo]

I suspect that the leave vote would lean towards Norway but be split.

Norway wouldn't satisfy those who voted because of immigration and I think that it would be difficult to sell the benefits over status quo but I would agree that it is the least worst leave option.

 

[indianspur]

I would be very interested in seeing what the results would be if we had a vote on (very roughly) the following options:

Status quo
Norway
Turkey
WTO

There is no point in having any more referendums on this. We've had our voice heard, the result is in and now it's up to parliament to make a decision on any potential leave deal once all the negotiations are over.

 

[milo]

There is no point in having any more referendums on this. We've had our voice heard, the result is in and now it's up to parliament to make a decision on any potential leave deal once all the negotiations are over.

I didn't say that there was. I said that I would be curious in the result if we did.

The referendum that we had only told us that 51% of voters rejected what we have now, I am interested in what they would like to see replace it, which the referendum did not address.

 

[parklane1]

There is no point in having any more referendums on this. We've had our voice heard, the result is in and now it's up to parliament to make a decision on any potential leave deal once all the negotiations are over.

Yep, i wonder if the vote had gone the other way if they would be as much crying and wailing.

 

[parklane1]

The Brexit Plan

http://thebrexitplan.com

Hilarious ( not) and childish at the same time, can not say i am surprised though with the general wailing and crying the losers of a democratic vote have been doing.

 

[Rorschach]

Hilarious ( not) and childish at the same time, can not say i am surprised though with the general wailing and crying the losers of a democratic vote have been doing.

I don't give a toss either way to be honest, but you have to expect the losing side to have a whine.

 

[Hotshot-Tottenham]

Yep, i wonder if the vote had gone the other way if they would be as much crying and wailing.

Still on that one?

There's only one person banging on about it. The rest are actually discussing the aftermath.

 

[parklane1]

I don't give a toss either way to be honest, but you have to expect the losing side to have a whine.

Not sure that is true to be honest, if every time people moaned/whined about losing a vote it would be a pretty sad world.

 

[parklane1]

Still on that one?

There's only one person banging on about it. The rest are actually discussing the aftermath.

Are sad people still not asking for the vote to be nulled and the ref done again?

 

[Rorschach]

Not sure that is true to be honest, if every time people moaned/whined about losing a vote it would be a pretty sad world.

Do they not? It seems to me that they do all the time and the closer the election the more vocal they get.

 

[parklane1]

Do they not? It seems to me that they do all the time and the closer the election the more vocal they get.

I was more talking about after a election rather then before and leading up to one.

 

[Hotshot-Tottenham]

Are sad people still not asking for the vote to be nulled and the ref done again?

A percentage, I'm sure. No-one that seriously believes it.

Not seen much of it on here though. Quite a lot of decent debate though.