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scaramanga said:
The Sterling drop is, IMO, a temporary correction because the markets were uncharacteristically bullish last week and everyone bet on remain. They all had to cover their losses as much as possible by dumping Sterling again. The £ isn't down all that much compared to other lows over the past few months, it's just a particularly hard fall from the heights it had wrongly climbed last week.
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I hope you are right. Markets will swing about now. No leader in place is a big problem. Many in fiance are not so bullish. The UKs credit rating has been downgraded across the board. Reading the FT feed is not for the faint hearted. It is woe followed by more woe. Maybe they are licking their wounds, and after the weekend confidence will return. At the moment confidence is shot.
 
Roy1983 said:
Yeah yeah heard it all and I'm not interested.

Next to get rid of Scotland!!
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I guess money is not everything. Maybe we will have a better England, albeit one that doesn't attract people from all over the world. I remember when you used to get on the Tube in the middle of the day and there would be just one other person on the train carriage! I remember the 80s and 90s when there were streets with dozens of empty houses, and people could and did squat them. It wasn't all bad in many ways. We were less affluent, but there were a lot less of us in London.

Roy what is it that you are excited about yourself, with Brexit? So much focus on wealth generation, bankers, experts etc. and not much on what people really want? What do you want and what are you hoping to see now?
 
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SpurMeUp said:
I guess money is not everything. Maybe we will have a better England, albeit one that doesn't attract people from all over the world. I remember when you used to get on the Tube in the middle of the day and there would be just one other person on the train carriage! I remember the 80s and 90s when there were dozens of streets with empty houses, and people could and did squat them. It wasn't all bad in many ways. We were less affluent, but there were a lot less of us.

Roy what is it that you are excited about yourself, with Brexit? So much focus on wealth generation, bankers, experts etc. and not much on what people really want? What do you want and what are you hoping to see now?
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A country that is self sufficient. A country that is financially getting back to an even keel. A country who puts its own natives first. A country that helps migrants back to their own shores.

Many things that were never going to happen before today. They still mightn't but there's more chance now.
 
I voted remain, not because I truly believe this one world guff or because of the trade deals, but because for me i don't see that anything is going to change.
It will just be different nameless, faceless politicians taking our money and ignoring us.

I haven't seen anyone or any party do or say anything today that didn't suit their agenda.

After weeks of polls and bookies saying remain will win can't help but think there's a lot of protest voters have awoke this morning wondering what they may have done. It's one thing to protest vote for a hopeless cause, it's a different thing when that cause wins.
 
Roy1983 said:
A country that is self sufficient. A country that is financially getting back to an even keel. A country who puts its own natives first. A country that helps migrants back to their own shores.

Many things that were never going to happen before today. They still mightn't but there's more chance now.
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If you want any of that you need to emigrate, you won't get it here.
 
glasgowspur said:
After weeks of polls and bookies saying remain will win can't help but think there's a lot of protest voters have awoke this morning wondering what they may have done. It's one thing to protest vote for a hopeless cause, it's a different thing when that cause wins.
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All that means is the case was not helpless then, maybe it was all the scare stories and being classed as racists made people relise it was about time that the majority got of their arses and started to see what a mess the country is in.
 
Roy1983 said:
A country that is self sufficient. A country that is financially getting back to an even keel. A country who puts its own natives first. A country that helps migrants back to their own shores.

Many things that were never going to happen before today. They still mightn't but there's more chance now.
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Well, that's an interesting point of view.

It's like something out of the 70s.

Would you be happy to go back to "your own shores" if it were found that you had migrant blood in you?
 
are there any pure Brittons left?

I guess that's me out, my family name strongly suggests a French immigrant about 300 years ago

France was very different place back then, not sure exactly where "my shores" are
 
glasgowspur said:
If you want any of that you need to emigrate, you won't get it here.
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Maybe. I've got options. I still believe this country is ruined but I've got some hope after this result that things might get better. I will end up in Spain one day though within 10 years preferably.
 
@scaramanga it's quite simple really. We help them get their country back in shape by removing these terrorist nut jobs then give them their country back. Isn't that the best option all round?
 
galeforce said:
are we not doing that?

where should they wait whilst we do so?
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I'm more than happy to take in migrants on the condition it's not permanent. I'm more than happy to pay for them to be educated, eat and sleep whilst they're here. On our terms though not to be dictated by outside rules.
 
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