Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
Disappointing to see so many empty seats.
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**Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
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i think losing RvP allowed the team to show their worth - everyone expected them to fall apart because they lost the player which was dragging them over the finish line every week but not only have they looked a much better team, based on the league standings they have actually proven to be the better team (more points on the board already)
jts1882
Dean Richards
So close to a Ricky Villa moment.
Kingdawson
Banned
So losing RVP played to their favour?
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Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Couldn't the same thing be said about us?
They lose their best player almost every season and yet they still finish in the top 4 every season.
All I'm saying is, we act like we are the only team who loses players and has injuries. Arsenal didn't have Wheelchair for the entire season last year.
im not sure what you mean here mate?
Essex Yid
Bobby Zamora
Because you just know they won't play like this
Kingdawson
Banned
I don't get the point Billy is trying to make tbh so i'm just waiting to see what he meant before commenting.
losing the heartbeat and engine room to your team would take more getting over than losing the a forward who bangs in goals, imv
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
Well they better, otherwise they're down.
Kingdawson
Banned
I don't understand what yo were getting at with your post. What were you trying to say? are you saying that losing RVP was a good thing?
some people are saying that we should have been finishing above Arsenal because they lost RvP - with the assumption that they would be weaker as a result
in reality they have become a stronger team over the summer than the season before so the assumption that we would be up against a weaker Arsenal side than last season is wrong and those using them as a yardstick need to re-evaluate their goals in light of that.
Kingdawson
Banned
Completely and utterly untrue imo.
Without RVP they would have finished 8th at best last season (such is how much he save them). Anyway you could say the lost the 'heartbeat and engine' too because Song left and he was undoubtedly their best midfielder who offered something in an attacking and defensive sense.
im not talking about taking out a player from last seasons team and looking at how they would have done - im talking about losing a player and then moving forward
Wheelchair returned to negate the loss of Song, giving them a midfield 3 of Wheelchair Arteta and Carzola
Kingdawson
Banned
I don't see that at all.
In fact, i see people stating that AVB has done a fantastic job bearing in mind we lost 2 of our best players and in response others are pointing out that Arsenal lost 2 of their best players too.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
Goals change games, sorry for the cliche but it's the most important position in a football team.
Their midfield has improved, but they are still poor defensively and their goalkeeping has got worse.
We've lost players too but they don't have any world class players anymore. Last season, we had a better team and squad, but they had that one great player. This season, the teams are fairly even, but Bale gives us a slight edge.