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Jimmy McCormick
Re: **Official Other Teams & Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
It's libel, slander is spoken..
Just sayin'..
It's libel, slander is spoken..
Just sayin'..
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**Official Other Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
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Nick Barmby
Re: **Official Other Teams & Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
I really think this is such a non-event. The ball boy was acting like an idiot, Hazard wanted to get on with the game and was irritated tried to kick ball out. Really the way some people are going on its like he's the next Jimmy Saville. I hate Chelsea as much as anyone but this is an overeaction. The ball boy was not even hurt. Hazard should get punished for his petulance but worse things happen everyday and worse things have happened at chelsea like shooting a youth player.
I really think this is such a non-event. The ball boy was acting like an idiot, Hazard wanted to get on with the game and was irritated tried to kick ball out. Really the way some people are going on its like he's the next Jimmy Saville. I hate Chelsea as much as anyone but this is an overeaction. The ball boy was not even hurt. Hazard should get punished for his petulance but worse things happen everyday and worse things have happened at chelsea like shooting a youth player.
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Justin Edinburgh
Re: **Official Other Teams & Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
actually i should get rid of that word before the mods start gettiing itchy fingers
but in all honesty......all this thing about wrestling the boy to the floor , not letting him get up and then kicking him for good measure just seems alittle bit like people are finding a cause to get behind unnecessarily , for that hazard should have been sent off no doubt, but that boy IMO was blatantly cheating...that bit to me seems obvious. why would hazard keep the boy on the ball anyway?
and look at the boys right arm, it actually moves the shield the ball FROM hazard...not protecting his neck..or his head...or even his short ribs...he hides and covers the ball
time wasting. but hazard shouldnt have kicked him..i dont know why he needed to. he's 3 times the boys size
actually i should get rid of that word before the mods start gettiing itchy fingers
but in all honesty......all this thing about wrestling the boy to the floor , not letting him get up and then kicking him for good measure just seems alittle bit like people are finding a cause to get behind unnecessarily , for that hazard should have been sent off no doubt, but that boy IMO was blatantly cheating...that bit to me seems obvious. why would hazard keep the boy on the ball anyway?
and look at the boys right arm, it actually moves the shield the ball FROM hazard...not protecting his neck..or his head...or even his short ribs...he hides and covers the ball
time wasting. but hazard shouldnt have kicked him..i dont know why he needed to. he's 3 times the boys size
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
I a saying we don't, 17 is not a child
the genre spanner
Calum Davenport
Its got to go down as one of the stupidest things I've seen a footballer do. If he'd have just left the ballboy to it the game would have restarted in a few seconds, getting involved was always going to just slow things down (a bit like when players try to get the ball off the keeper after a goal, I'm pretty sure that always just delays the restart).
But then to have a kick "at the ball" like that really was ridiculous, am pretty sure he will have known that it was basically impossible to get the ball without making any contact, even if he'd got away with it on the night he was always going to get in trouble retrospectively.
It does nothing to relieve the stereotype of footballers not being the sharpest.
But then to have a kick "at the ball" like that really was ridiculous, am pretty sure he will have known that it was basically impossible to get the ball without making any contact, even if he'd got away with it on the night he was always going to get in trouble retrospectively.
It does nothing to relieve the stereotype of footballers not being the sharpest.
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Justin Edinburgh
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
Re: **Official Other Teams & Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Exactly. Disgusting behaviour. It was a deliberate time wasting. The ref should have intervene instead of letting the ballboy rolling on the field holding the ball. The ref should take full responsibility for this. Just imagine if it was us in that situation. I wouldn't have been upset at all if a Spurs player did that. Hazard was right to get the red card but the ballboy should be banned from football as well.
This incident has changed my view of Swansea completely. Until now, thought they were winning the matches fairly. Not sure anymore. This has helped me decide who to support in the Final. Come on Bradford !
Exactly. Disgusting behaviour. It was a deliberate time wasting. The ref should have intervene instead of letting the ballboy rolling on the field holding the ball. The ref should take full responsibility for this. Just imagine if it was us in that situation. I wouldn't have been upset at all if a Spurs player did that. Hazard was right to get the red card but the ballboy should be banned from football as well.
This incident has changed my view of Swansea completely. Until now, thought they were winning the matches fairly. Not sure anymore. This has helped me decide who to support in the Final. Come on Bradford !
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Justin Edinburgh
Re: **Official Other Teams & Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
But mate , how was the ref supposed to intervene? he was past the penalty area and the whole thing took like 3 secs
But mate , how was the ref supposed to intervene? he was past the penalty area and the whole thing took like 3 secs
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Re: **Official Other Teams & Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Why would this be the ref's fault? The ref is there to add time on for any time wasting. So if Hazard hasn't gotten involved the fact the ball boy was being a dingdong would have made no difference.
Also why does this affect your view of Swansea? One of their ball boys is a dingdong? Pretty sure if you went through the ball boys at each club you'd find tools like him.
Why would this be the ref's fault? The ref is there to add time on for any time wasting. So if Hazard hasn't gotten involved the fact the ball boy was being a dingdong would have made no difference.
Also why does this affect your view of Swansea? One of their ball boys is a dingdong? Pretty sure if you went through the ball boys at each club you'd find tools like him.
Re: **Official Other Teams & Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Ball boy was a dingdong.
Don't blame Hazard, I'd have done the same.
Laudrup is one seriously cool cat.
Funny as hell that whole incident.
Ball boy was a dingdong.
Don't blame Hazard, I'd have done the same.
Laudrup is one seriously cool cat.
Funny as hell that whole incident.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Re: **Official Other Teams & Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
I agree it's probably irrelevant when it comes to the red card. But people on here are comparing this to what Cantona did, talking about longer bans than what Barton got at the end of last season etc. I think when it comes to handing out a suspension then it's very much relevant what he was trying to do. He should get some punishment, sure. I think almost everyone agrees. But some of the reactions seem way over the top.
Solid analysis
I agree it's probably irrelevant when it comes to the red card. But people on here are comparing this to what Cantona did, talking about longer bans than what Barton got at the end of last season etc. I think when it comes to handing out a suspension then it's very much relevant what he was trying to do. He should get some punishment, sure. I think almost everyone agrees. But some of the reactions seem way over the top.
Solid analysis
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Re: **Official Other Teams & Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
The thing is, we're watching it at home, several replays later, detached from the situation. Like Laudrup mentioned the situation is completely different for Hazard. Of course what he did was stupid and it's not acceptable behaviour, but it's not like he intentionally went over and kicked the ball boy for the hell of it. Frustration, adrenaline, tiredness and other factors all play their part.
I have seen much stupider things done by footballers, both on the pitch and off it.
Cheers
I thought the exact same thing when watching it at first, was hoping someone would make a gif cutting from one to the other...
The thing is, we're watching it at home, several replays later, detached from the situation. Like Laudrup mentioned the situation is completely different for Hazard. Of course what he did was stupid and it's not acceptable behaviour, but it's not like he intentionally went over and kicked the ball boy for the hell of it. Frustration, adrenaline, tiredness and other factors all play their part.
I have seen much stupider things done by footballers, both on the pitch and off it.
Cheers
I thought the exact same thing when watching it at first, was hoping someone would make a gif cutting from one to the other...
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Gudni Bergsson
Re: **Official Other Teams & Games Thread, Season 2012/13**
Given that the lad clearly was wanting to slow the game down, it got me thinking how much clubs actually encourage there ball boys to do this? Anyone remember one of the MOTD pundits for berating a Blackburn ball girl against Liverpool sometime in the early 90s?
Conversely I have to say I both admire and resent the way Barcelona have their ball boys so efficiently trained to get the ball back ASAP when they have the ball. We're trying to play a similar high tempo game, could do worse than learn from the maestros.
Given that the lad clearly was wanting to slow the game down, it got me thinking how much clubs actually encourage there ball boys to do this? Anyone remember one of the MOTD pundits for berating a Blackburn ball girl against Liverpool sometime in the early 90s?
Conversely I have to say I both admire and resent the way Barcelona have their ball boys so efficiently trained to get the ball back ASAP when they have the ball. We're trying to play a similar high tempo game, could do worse than learn from the maestros.