Official - Defoe

[Roy1983]

I don't think so. Both are very much passengers when they're not scoring.

I think that's unfair on Defoe who always looks capable of scoring.

 

[NaijaSpurs]

So would Clive Allen if he dusted off his boots. But you can't carry luxury players who don't otherwise contribute like that in the modern game.

You mean like VDV who has done fuk all recently for Spurs

 

[totman]

So would Clive Allen if he dusted off his boots. But you can't carry luxury players who don't otherwise contribute like that in the modern game.

Must have hurt you to see us go through tonight. 1-1 and extra time and penalties would have been much better

 

[Roy1983]

So would Clive Allen if he dusted off his boots. But you can't carry luxury players who don't otherwise contribute like that in the modern game.

Of all our players I'd say Rafa is our luxury player.

 

[Gutter Boy]

You mean like VDV who has done fuk all recently for Spurs

Who has been carrying an injury and played out of position.

Of all our players I'd say Rafa is our luxury player.

Though he covers more ground than any other player on the pitch and makes more passes than anyone bar Modric?

 

[NaijaSpurs]

So would Clive Allen if he dusted off his boots. But you can't carry luxury players who don't otherwise contribute like that in the modern game.

Man Utd on Sunday was not Stevenage, still the same quality finishing

 

[Roy1983]

GB you should change your username to opta stats boy

I personally don't give a monkeys about whose run the most etc..I look to see who offers more to the team and right now I'd say it's Defoe. We'll see what Harry does on Saturday.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Man Utd on Sunday was not Stevenage, still the same quality finishing

He's got decent technique of striking the ball - it's his one attribute, but Man U's CBs were already in the changing room at that point.

 

[totman]

He's got decent technique of striking the ball - it's his one attribute, but Man U's CBs were already in the changing room at that point.

So you wouldnt have minded if he hit row Z then?

 

[nw7 yid]

We're using Defoe perfectly at the moment. He's fighting hard to try to break in the team, and gives us options. He's looking very sharp when coming off the bench (which he hasn't always done in the past) and is scoring plenty of goals. But he still has a tendency to go missing in games.

Important squad player for us but no way that he should be an automatic starter. He's getting plenty of playing time and plenty of chances. I don't see the issue.

 

[totman]

The issue is, that maybe we could have done better against Man U, and arsenal, if we played a 442 that we were actually used to

 

[Gutter Boy]

The issue is, that maybe we could have done better against Man U, and arsenal, if we played a 442 that we were actually used to

Or if we'd stuck to our usual 4-2-3-1 and just used Krancjar as a straight swap for vdV. We got blown apart because 4-4-2 is flawed and left us wide open, not because our player aren't used to it.

 

[totman]

442 is not flawed if you use the right players and tactics....like any formation.

 

[NaijaSpurs]

We're using Defoe perfectly at the moment. He's fighting hard to try to break in the team, and gives us options. He's looking very sharp when coming off the bench (which he hasn't always done in the past) and is scoring plenty of goals. But he still has a tendency to go missing in games.

Dude this season at varying times that has applied to Lennon, Bale, VDv, Saha, Ade et al

Important squad player for us but no way that he should be an automatic starter. He's getting plenty of playing time and plenty of chances. I don't see the issue.[/B]

The big fukking issue is that Ade, has missed a hatful of chances, Saha has score 2 goals all season and VDV possibly due to his persistent injury problems, has gone missing in several matches recently. The issue is that Defoe currently looks like the Spurs player most likely to score a goal in open play even though he has failed to master the off-side rule

 

[NaijaSpurs]

442 is not flawed if you use the right players and tactics....like any formation.

This

 

[NaijaSpurs]

Or if we'd stuck to our usual 4-2-3-1 and just used Krancjar as a straight swap for vdV. We got blown apart because 4-4-2 is flawed and left us wide open, not because our player aren't used to it.

When Spurs made CL a couple of years ago what formation were we playing? You dislike for Defoe means you have talk tripe

 

[Gutter Boy]

442 is not flawed if you use the right players and tactics....like any formation.

Ok - it might work with 2 forwards who alternate in dropping deep, like Berbatov and Keane used to. It doesn't work with old school goal hangers like Defoe and Saha though because you're just going to get steamrollered in midfield every time.

 

[Gutter Boy]

When Spurs made CL a couple of years ago what formation were we playing? You dislike for Defoe means you have talk tripe

4-4-2, but we achieved inspite of our forwards that season. Keane, Crouch, Defoe, Pav and Gudjohnsen were all equally frustrating.

 

[totman]

Ok - it might work with 2 forwards who alternate in dropping deep, like Berbatov and Keane used to. It doesn't work with old school goal hangers like Defoe and Saha though because you're just going to get steamrollered in midfield every time.

But it does work with Defoe. The fact you dont like him doesnt change that.

 

[Gutter Boy]

But it does work with Defoe. The fact you dont like him doesnt change that.

Must have missed that. Defoe's not formed a decent partnership in his whole career. A few cameo goals can't re-write history.