Next Spurs Manager

[indianspur]

Apart from winning the double with Zenit in his first year there, followed by another league title the following season and finishing second last season. They are currently top of the Russian league.

The 4-6-0 formation included Totti, more a forward than a midfielder for me.

Zenit? Russian league? ah right i never realised that football was now held in such high regard

may as well consider Reghencampf from Steaua Bucharest if our net is spreading to remote leagues

 

[LutonSpurs]

Re: Capello at the game tonight

We need a big name because that's what Spurs do. He is the only big name available maybe so Levy may get him. He looks and interesting coach and he is successful.

Also we have strikers who don't score goals. He may be perfect for us.

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Fapatalk

 

[scaramanga]

Tell that to Ramos, he couldn't even communicate with the squad, Poyet was his translator and look how that turned out!

I really don't think a lack of English was the reason for Ramos' failure.

If we're just finding common traits then Guardiola is a **** manager because he and Ramon both have an R in their names right?

 

[Harry_Perkins]

I'm sure it's been said before, but the more I think about it the more I feel AVB was essentially sacked because of a defensive injury crisis. Our defensive record was excellent until Vertonghen was forced out to the left, and then got injured. Kaboul's hardly featured (and that was always going to be a risk after a year out injured), Rose has been out for most of the year and even Chiriches has missed key games. Dawson is the least suited of our central defenders to play a high line. So Walker has probably been the only "first eleven" player in our defence for the past couple of months.

I'm not saying AVB would have had us playing entertaining attacking football if Vertonghen, Rose and Kaboul had been fully fit; but we wouldn't have been shipping so many goals and would probably have a few more points than we currently do. Which would, in turn, have made a showdown between Levy and AVB far less likely.

So it seems to me that our results are unlikely to improve no matter who the manager is; because the problem is with the players (or rather, it's with our lack of fit ones in defence). And once that's solved - either by buying in January or - more likely - by the return of Vertonghen and Rose (and hopefully Kaboul) then we'll immediately become a better side. I don't think that's likely to happen during the next couple of weeks, so Sherwood's chance of proving himself worthy of the role will come unstuck through no fault of his own.

I think he got unlucky with injuries but we're talking about results that suggested, at best, about 8th/9th for us over quite some period. 45 points in his last 28 league games. We had one decent period under him midway through last season and that is about it. The contrast with the two Inter games last year said a lot. Destroyed them at home with Bale but he picked up a yellow and was suspended for the return. The hammer us 4-1 in the return and could have had 6 or 7. Sorry but what was happening late on wasn't all that new.

 

[Jordinho]

How can you compare a side like Zenit playing in the Russian league with us? Two different leagues and Zenit are a top side in Russia. I think Luciano Spalletti will be another long line of foreign managers we had with no prem league experience to flop here. I hope the rumour is not true.

It's still the same game and many of the same challenges and there are a lot of foreign players over there. You've got the 5 (at least?) Moscow sides, Anzhi (before their owner gave up) and Rubin Kazan. He's an Italian who's been able to adapt to the Russian league without problem. The PL isn't THAT much harder.

 

[tractorspur]

Don't want spaghetti. He has a silly beard.

 

[indianspur]

I don't have any thoughts on him either way, but I would say the following;

If we're going for a mediocre manager, then I'd prefer one from a league known for technical, thoughtful managers than one known for being a bit of an old boys' club.

Where you see a history of playing with no strikers, I see a manager making do with what he has.

I thought many people's problem with AVB was a lack of age/experience, so an older manager should be more experienced, right?

Speaking English is utterly irrelevant to managing a team where a small minority speak English as their first language.

 

[indianspur]

I really don't think a lack of English was the reason for Ramos' failure.

If we're just finding common traits then Guardiola is a **** manager because he and Ramon both have an R in their names right?

so his inability to communicate his ideas to the players because of the language barrier dint at least play a part?

 

[scaramanga]

He's done more in his career than anyone we're likely to attract.

 

[indianspur]

It's still the same game and many of the same challenges and there are a lot of foreign players over there. You've got the 5 (at least?) Moscow sides, Anzhi (before their owner gave up) and Rubin Kazan. He's an Italian who's been able to adapt to the Russian league without problem. The PL isn't THAT much harder.

:lol: =D> that cheered me up. I love a bit of humour

 

[Jordinho]

Zenit? Russian league? ah right i never realised that football was now held in such high regard

may as well consider Reghencampf from Steaua Bucharest if our net is spreading to remote leagues

How many "Premier League proven" managers are there that have either won trophies or mounted top 4 challenges that we'd be able to attract right now?

 

[indianspur]

He's done more in his career than anyone we're likely to attract.

ok then, Sven it is

 

[milo]

Don't want spaghetti. He has a silly beard.

At last, a reason that we can all get behind

 

[scaramanga]

so his inability to communicate his ideas to the players because of the language barrier dint at least play a part?

How would an English manager (probably the second worst nation in the world at learning other languages) convey his ideas to the majority of our players?

 

[AdamB]

In a situation where there is no 'obvious' name, any of Spaletti, de Boer and Yakin would be fine for different reasons.

At least Spaletti's teams play attractive attacking football and he's proved himself in one of Europe's major leagues - there isn't a long list of managers which we could get and who have taken teams into the CL from one of the major 4 European leagues. Makes a lot of sense than taking a punt that Sherwood would make a good manager

 

[indianspur]

How many "Premier League proven" managers are there that have either won trophies or mounted top 4 challenges that we'd be able to attract right now?

all we need is a manager/coach who is able to put up with a combination of Levy, Sherwood, Commoli, Pleat, Baldini, Clive allen's cat picking his signings for him, someone to deliver free flowing push and run football with 3pts every game, someone who looks good in a suit, can speak at least simple english, no talk of dimensions...got to be someone out there:-k

 

[The Portugeezer]

I really don't think a lack of English was the reason for Ramos' failure.

If we're just finding common traits then Guardiola is a **** manager because he and Ramon both have an R in their names right?

I remember reading reports at the time communication was an issue for Ramos. It certainly didn't help his cause when he could barely speak the lingo. Communication is key here. You have to be able to communicate with the squad and put your ideas across otherwise you're doomed to fail.

It's still the same game and many of the same challenges and there are a lot of foreign players over there. You've got the 5 (at least?) Moscow sides, Anzhi (before their owner gave up) and Rubin Kazan. He's an Italian who's been able to adapt to the Russian league without problem. The PL isn't THAT much harder.

I am not convinced. I think the Prem is a much tougher league and the quality is better. I could be wrong here, but whenever Levy hires a foreign head coach, it just never works out. We may have won the League Cup with Ramos, but then again we also won it with George Graham and we were on the verge of winning the FA Cup too if he wasn't for Levy giving him the boot!

 

[Jordinho]

Jol is a foreigner, no? :-"

 

[indianspur]

How would an English manager (probably the second worst nation in the world at learning other languages) convey his ideas to the majority of our players?

I think only Lamela, Soldado, and maybe paulinho are currently limited in their english....so i really dont know where you get the majority impression from

 

[milo]

I think only Lamela, Soldado, and maybe paulinho are currently limited in their english....so i really dont know where you get the majority impression from

Walker's English is very limited