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Next Manager?

SpurMeUp said:
The club should be talking to candidates. How else do they determine if they fit and what their financial demands would look like? If a journalist gets wind of this - like the financials are agreed between Spurs and the manager, then we get given stories that its "done" etc. Which is obviously far from the case. The club might agree packages with a number of candidates, only to pivot or choose one of them. No point engaging in it all until we're there.



This time of year, there isn't much to talk about. But I don't think anyone outside Spurs cares much until we appoint someone.
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You don't talk to the candidate to find out what their financial demands look like. You establish that through intermediaries... that is why it is very, very rare for an agreed player transfer in football to break down over wages. The use of intermediaries saves both clubs and players/managers lots of time as both parties will know they are in the same ballpark and then the final bits and pieces can be done reasonably easily. Of course with a manager there is lots more involved than just salary and bonuses, there is also the budget allowed for them to bring their own staff, transfer budget, wage budget and things like that to be agreed. I suspect that this is where deals have broken down for most of our candidates this summer and that is why a lot of our deals have been in the press as we have got past the intermediary stage (where lots and lots of players/managers are talking to lots of clubs)
 
So, if we've binned off the fonz just as we are about to sign him and he is bewildered about it all, why isn't he saying anything?
In fact as it was reported to be the same with Conte, why the silence?
I think we would all agree that is pretty shameful behaviour, right?
So Where's the stories from the managers, their agents, teams or representatives laying into Levy?
I mean surely all these well connected sources must have something?
 
glasgowspur said:
So Levy is daring to do, but the dof is more cautious?
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Its a bit of a mess if this is true. You'd have assumed that they talked about a range of things in advance to check that they were aligned.

given Paratici's time at Juve, its understandable if he has a more conservative mindset in terms of playing style
 
glorygloryeze said:
So quick couple of questions:

1) who do people think will be Tottenham Hotspur FC manager by the time the new season kicks off in August 2021?

2) who would people want (realistically) to be Tottenham Hotspur FC manager by the time the new season kicks off in August 2021?
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1. Gareth Southgate, Eddie Howe, Lucien Favre,
2. ETH, Lopetegui, Galtier, Pochettino, Gasperini, Kovac, Glasner, Dyche
 
AdamB said:
Its a bit of a mess if this is true. You'd have assumed that they talked about a range of things in advance to check that they were aligned.

given Paratici's time at Juve, its understandable if he has a more conservative mindset in terms of playing style
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If it's true, after all 2 hours ago it was because of tax, 12 hours ago it was because of gattuso and the fonz was bewildered.
So if the fonz has pulled the plug why was he bewildered yesterday?
 
glasgowspur said:
If it's true, after all 2 hours ago it was because of tax, 12 hours ago it was because of gattuso and the fonz was bewildered.
So if the fonz has pulled the plug why was he bewildered yesterday?
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Re-reading his tweet, its says "Paulo Fonseca’s camp felt there was a big difference...."

It doesnt say that this is why we moved on from Fonseca, just that Levy and Paratici have different views

The tax explanation is believeable to me given how financial stretched we are
 
Finney Is Back said:
You don't talk to the candidate to find out what their financial demands look like. You establish that through intermediaries... that is why it is very, very rare for an agreed player transfer in football to break down over wages. The use of intermediaries saves both clubs and players/managers lots of time as both parties will know they are in the same ballpark and then the final bits and pieces can be done reasonably easily. Of course with a manager there is lots more involved than just salary and bonuses, there is also the budget allowed for them to bring their own staff, transfer budget, wage budget and things like that to be agreed. I suspect that this is where deals have broken down for most of our candidates this summer and that is why a lot of our deals have been in the press as we have got past the intermediary stage (where lots and lots of players/managers are talking to lots of clubs)
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You wouldn't take someone on you have not spoken with directly. It doesn't matter if we go through agents or direct, the point remains. If clubs want some leverage they can use the media. Just as others do.
 
glasgowspur said:
What else is there to report on?
Other the unfortunate story of Eriksen, what is there?
What transfers?
Which other vacant managers position? Everton, fsw was another done deal the other day, what happened there...........
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More than enough.
The Euros.
Eriksen's close shave with death (are there other players with similar profiles who might be at risk?).
Transfer targets that most clubs have at the Euros (how GHod are they? Are they overrrated?)
The Ronald coca-col snub
Pogba's Heineken snub
The fact these sponsors pay their big wages etc etc

There's LOADS for journos to report on without having to target Spurs for easy clickbait
 
Finney Is Back said:
1. Gareth Southgate, Eddie Howe, Lucien Favre,
2. ETH, Lopetegui, Galtier, Pochettino, Gasperini, Kovac, Glasner, Dyche
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All at once?:eek:

:D

It's a shame we didn't get Lopetgui as i think he was the most intriguing of those we've been linked with and was a very good 'front foot' candidate too. It was reported that issues of his close family etc not being able to travel back and forth freely was the nail in the coffin..:(
 
SpurMeUp said:
HMRC want your contact details ;) I don't think you can do that anymore. Unless the manager was working for a number of clubs.
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The manager would likely have a number of contracts. Some with sponsors, potentially also some media work. With a two year contract as 'head coach' he could absolutely be considered to be a consultant as opposed to an employee surely?
 
glorygloryeze said:
More than enough.
The Euros.
Eriksen's close shave with death (are there other players with similar profiles who might be at risk?).
Transfer targets that most clubs have at the Euros (how GHod are they? Are they overrrated?)
The Ronald coca-col snub
Pogba's Heineken snub
The fact these sponsors pay their big wages etc etc

There's LOADS for journos to report on without having to target Spurs for easy clickbait
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That's not really how the world works though is it, every journo wants max exposure so they hit every story and if they hit one that is not so widely covered then that gives them greater exposure and more clicks and more money

Lets also remember that we have seen stories made up on forums actually get into news stories, that is how little your average sports journo or twitterati cares about the source these days
 
SpurMeUp said:
You wouldn't take someone on you have not spoken with directly. It doesn't matter if we go through agents or direct, the point remains. If clubs want some leverage they can use the media. Just as others do.
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No of course you wouldn't.... but if you have got as far as speaking directly then you have got past the initial stage of the general financials that is all done through intermediaries. If all of the players/managers that clubs discussed through intermediaries made the press then there wouldn't be enough internet to print it all on! :D
 
glorygloryeze said:
More than enough.
The Euros.
Eriksen's close shave with death (are there other players with similar profiles who might be at risk?).
Transfer targets that most clubs have at the Euros (how GHod are they? Are they overrrated?)
The Ronald coca-col snub
Pogba's Heineken snub
The fact these sponsors pay their big wages etc etc

There's LOADS for journos to report on without having to target Spurs for easy clickbait
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So why aren't they, after all these should all be bigger stories than spurs?
Except they aren't, because they are non stories.
Other than Eriksen that happened last week.
Who have city, utd, Chelsea or Liverpool been linked with? Realistically, who?
The first real euro story is tonight.
Watch spurs disappear if England lose, disaster. Very unlikely that will happen imho.
If they win the focus moves onto who England can get in the next round.
 
Finney Is Back said:
The manager would likely have a number of contracts. Some with sponsors, potentially also some media work. With a two year contract as 'head coach' he could absolutely be considered to be a consultant as opposed to an employee surely?
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He has a desk, his own office and is a public figure so I don’t think even ballsy accountants would recommend it. Could be wrong, if so let me know the loop hole!


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