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Mousa Dembele
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Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I think it's Poch's biggest achievement in terms of player development (Rose probably comes second).
Dembele had been flattering to deceive for a decade. He'd played for LVG, Koeman, Advocaat and Jol, and none of them could train into him competent decision-making and how to effectively utilise his talents. Poch has got him to cut-out all his bad instincts.
At 28 he was hardly a raw talent. His late blooming is potentially up there with Marcos Senna's c.2006-8.
Dembele had been flattering to deceive for a decade. He'd played for LVG, Koeman, Advocaat and Jol, and none of them could train into him competent decision-making and how to effectively utilise his talents. Poch has got him to cut-out all his bad instincts.
At 28 he was hardly a raw talent. His late blooming is potentially up there with Marcos Senna's c.2006-8.
awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
Get his shooting sorted out and we have a beast on our hands. He's so capable of getting past one man that shooting opportunities often present themselves to him but he's not often able to pepper the top corners.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
That is simply not true. He was a very good player at Fulham which is why we bought him and then he was superb in AVB's first season alongside Sandro. This has been done a million times before.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
100% right
I stand by what I've said a lot... If he believed it, he would be the best player in the league
I now think he has found that swagger and also is fitter than he has ever been and low and behold we have a best of a player that is vital to how we play
The results prove it. We lost to United when he played right mid and was the best player on the pitch playing out of position IMO. He didn't play vs Saudi Sportswashing Machine, played 20 vs Leicester and didn't play vs West Ham. The game he has missed have been crucial as he keeps the ball better than anyone, is now driving into space and playing simple effective passes and he takes out so many opposition players
People criticised him vs Liverpool yet statistically he was the best player on the pitch and the experts said so too... It didn't help that Alli and Dier were poo though hence why Dembele regularly had 3 men on him but he dealt with that like a fricking beast
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Nice vid. Thanks for posting it.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Exactly right! As you say this topic has been done a thousand times already, but this thread does sadden me, every time I look at it there's some sort revision of history like Dembele was rubbish before this season or something! Just simply wrong, but seems to be the widely held belief these days, like the season alongside Sandro didn't happen, or last seasons resurgence was some how a miraculous coincidence that it occurred when Dembele came back in to the team.
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Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Good piece on Dembele from the Guardian :
http://www.theguardian.com/football...tottenham-hotspur-success-mauricio-pochettino
“The most important thing for a club is to have a certain way of thinking and there is a clear plan here. They know what they want. It’s [not for] a long time that I have seen that they know exactly what they want. There is a good vibe. I don’t have this feeling just because we’re having a good season, although that has a lot to do with it. You can just feel that we’re in the right direction. We feel like this is the start of a bigger Tottenham future.”
http://www.theguardian.com/football...tottenham-hotspur-success-mauricio-pochettino
“The most important thing for a club is to have a certain way of thinking and there is a clear plan here. They know what they want. It’s [not for] a long time that I have seen that they know exactly what they want. There is a good vibe. I don’t have this feeling just because we’re having a good season, although that has a lot to do with it. You can just feel that we’re in the right direction. We feel like this is the start of a bigger Tottenham future.”
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I think based on his (obvious) talent flattered to deceive is a good description. Was linked to the biggest clubs in the league when at Fulham with a release clause of only £15m, ended up with us. Did well with us for a while, then not so much. Was being talked of as one that could easily end up at Real Madrid.
With that amount of potential and ability he has at the very least failed to live up to that potential. Flattered to deceive is a bit harsh, but not untrue.
Spurmac1974
Reto Ziegler
Quite simply the best player on the pitch today, love watching him
Bullet
Andy Thompson
It's like watching a dad weave up and down the pitch with his 4 sons trying to nick the ball off him, man against boys.
clownfoot
Goran Bunjevcevic
I remember rumours that the infamous partnership with Madrid and access to their scouting database yielded in us signing Dembele
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
I don't subscribe to this unfulfilled potential argument especially when the evidence put forward is he has not played for any one bigger than Spurs. He does a job, a very good one, as he has always done but he is not the type of metronomic play maker in the Modric or Ozil mould who are coveted by the top teams. There are many reasons why players are not signed by the so called bigger teams, but I think it is hugely unfair to view them as a lesser players because of it. In any case, I understand that United were looking at him around the time we signed him but we got in there quickly before they had a chance to make any concrete offer.
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braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Him not playing for a bigger club than Spurs is only part of it. Before this season Dembele had no more than 2-3 seasons at most playing really well at top European league level. His last season at Fulham and his first season with us were very good, other than that he hadn't been doing much.
Plenty of clubs that have been bigger than us since Dembele signed for us that do not only sign metronomic passers.
It's judging him by a high standard, and it's a touch harsh (as I already said). But it's not wrong. Unfulfilled potential was not harsh on him up until this season though, not at all.
afsoc4life
Vedran Corluka
^Easy to forget that he won the Eredivisie with LvG at AZ Aikmaar despite the presence of Ajax and PSV in that league. We (and I am guilty at times) are too harsh on our players at times.