Robbo
Paul Walsh
I'd say this is as good a thread as any.
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Mauricio Pochettino
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glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Nobody knows, it's all guess work on their partPapers today suggest he’s going to Chelsea…
superspurs
Simon Davies
I really hope that’s “come and get me” stuff, if he goes there it’ll be awful.
Also reckon that may be the catalyst for the Levy Out stuff to go nuclear.
Also reckon that may be the catalyst for the Levy Out stuff to go nuclear.
It would hinge on who we appoint - if we go ambitious and get in say Nagelsmann then i think that would spare the fall out, if we end up with someone like Rogers then all hell will break loose i think. Of course if whoever is appointed does well then it will all get forgotten about but yeah an uninspiring appointment would lead to a lot of unrest untill a point that they 'succeed'
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Is this the posh version?
afsoc4life
Dean Richards
I would be firmly with Levy if Pochettino joins Chelsea. That will let me know a bit more about the man. I doubt he would join Chelsea not after the way our matches vs them went.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
He specifically said Barca and Woolwich. As much as I absolutely hate the thought of him ending up at Stamford Bridge, I don’t think we can expect him to turn it down if it’s a job he wants. He doesn’t owe us anything.
Grays_1890
Barry Daines
The appoint will sting hard for me as I love the bloke, will be interesting how those that have a more cloudy memory of his time react to it if he does go
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Can you imagine, the one time Chelsea appoint one of our ex-managers, and he ends up winning the PL and CL... Arghhh, Levy, sign him up just to avoid that scenario.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
By most accounts he has now twice offered to come here when the club is struggling and needing a manager.
If as has been suggested he is barely even in the running this time round then i really don't blame him for taking any job, we obviously don't want him.
All drawn from press conjecture obviously, but obviously it us play out like it's true.
I'm really beginning to wonder about levy, the last 5 years have been a nightmare and he doesn't seem to be learning anything from it.
If as has been suggested he is barely even in the running this time round then i really don't blame him for taking any job, we obviously don't want him.
All drawn from press conjecture obviously, but obviously it us play out like it's true.
I'm really beginning to wonder about levy, the last 5 years have been a nightmare and he doesn't seem to be learning anything from it.
Grays_1890
Barry Daines
Its most certainly head scratching, not defending it now but in all honesty the wait till summer and get the full right team in then would be my move too with the whole Fab situation too. I wanted/want Poch but I also think it does him zero favours coming in now TBH, I know for a fact there will be fans in their bunker ready to pop their heads up saying he is done two games in
I'm not sure it's head scratching, Poch is very hard to have a legitimate conversation about
Facts re Poch
- Best manager of our modern era (easy give)
- United the fans/club in a way very few have
- Has a very good relationship still with club & Levy
Seems such an easy fit, so what's the argument against Poch?
- The end of his era was bad (this is often seen in a much better light due to revisionist history) but alongside that CL run was 1 away win in 11 months, 25 points from 24 games, 18 losses in a calendar year
- He was poor with subs
- He didn't want to work with a DoF (his famous, I'm just a coach rant), and seeming not a good judge of players to buy
- He fudged up on youth players (something he's normally given credit for), his refusal to let young players out on loan was a poor strategy
- In the end, the senior players wanted out, Eriksen & Toby examples
- He was poor with managing players with injuries, players that needed cotton wool (Dembele & Lamela)
- Almost man, his teams didn't take the last step
- Given better players in PSG neither the results or the football was elite
Lots of caveats
- Wembley move at hight of our rise
- Lack of money to refresh at the point most needed
- Bad recruitment (partly on him, see above re DoF)
I can see why the club is thinking about it
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Nagelsman seems to be the favourite, he's available, reports say he's willing, so why not go and get him?
I have to say that he wouldn't be my choice, but do we really think that there's better out there?
Grays_1890
Barry Daines
I imagine the inner workings are more complicated than anyone will know. I mean a week ago he was going to Chelsea and people were saying "oh I wonder what excuse there is for him not coming here, maybe be spun that we were not interested" now it looks like he is coming....WTF knows in all honesty hahaha
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
End was bad because the team was run into the ground and was not refreshed. Some of that was down to manager, a lot down to the club.
Eriksen always said he would move on, nothing to do with Poch.
Toby was done, it was a mistake to hang onto him, if anything we should have shipped him out and kept jan.
Jose, nuno and conte have all been poor at subs, maybe we should start looking at the quality the club puts on the bench.
Some of that feeds into your other points, youth are going out on loan now, don't see any making the step up.
Not by any means saying poch is blameless, but let's look at how the direction the ckub are going in, the model that the club, the fans and the manager were all veey happy with and had brought us to our best PL era results has now been jettisoned for a model the fans don't won't the club won't back and the managers onky seem to be here for the cash.