Lucas Bergvall

[braineclipse]

He was the first one over to console Dragusin after the red. Not the first time he's shown character and awareness. He's not some nervous 18 year old kid flabbergasted by how he ended up playing for us and just trying to hang on. He knows he belongs and shows character both in his play and elsewhere.

Gray too... So many situations where losing the ball could have been a very costly mistake. So confident, so composed, so much quality. Didn't phase him at all.

When Ange said they were signed for their potential, but also for what they can do this season he meant it.

Really looking forward to seeing more of both of them.

 

[Robbo]

Don't think it will do any damage. He'll understand why it happened, the coaches and teammates will understand that it was difficult for him and support him.

He wants to be a player at this level, that much seems obvious. He has the talent too. Part of that is taking one for the team like this (unless you're already one of the best players). Think he'll handle it fine.

Agreed. Surely very disappointing, but he'll be fine and will get his chance again soon.

 

[glorygloryeze]

I think that was a bad move on Ange’s part, i know we went on to win but that could damage this lad long term.

Oh come on, if the player has any modicum of self-awareness and drive to succeed, i doubt coming off when we've gone down to 10 men will 'damage the lad'

 

[elyid]

He was the first one over to console Dragusin after the red. Not the first time he's shown character and awareness. He's not some nervous 18 year old kid flabbergasted by how he ended up playing for us and just trying to hang on. He knows he belongs and shows character both in his play and elsewhere.

Gray too... So many situations where losing the ball could have been a very costly mistake. So confident, so composed, so much quality. Didn't phase him at all.

When Ange said they were signed for their potential, but also for what they can do this season he meant it.

Really looking forward to seeing more of both of them.

Yeah both of them are the real deal. Not just “kids with promise” but two of the best young players in the world.

Bergval is probably disappointed not to get a chance to shine, but his mentality is way too strong for this to effect him.

I’d also put Moore in this category, just a bit younger / less ready.

 

[harr1984]

I think that was a bad move on Ange’s part, i know we went on to win but that could damage this lad long term.

What a terrible tactical move by Ange to keep on the full of running (and goal scorer) Sarr, Bissouma who had a great game and we win 3-0. He's a talented boy, but there would be far more whinging had we lost - Ange made the call he thought best to win the game and we did.

It's football, this has happened to many a player - if it really does 'damage' the lad then he's probably not got the mentality to make it at this level (seems pretty obvious he has though).....

 

[braineclipse]

Yeah both of them are the real deal. Not just “kids with promise” but two of the best young players in the world.

Bergval is probably disappointed not to get a chance to shine, but his mentality is way too strong for this to effect him.

I’d also put Moore in this category, just a bit younger / less ready.

Fully agreed on his mentality (from what we can see from the outside). Football is full of disappointments and dealing with that is part of the job and also part of the learning curve for younger players.

On talent no doubt Moore is in the same category. On looking like he belongs at this level already, a bit too early to say.

 

[SkipRat]

The guy is an exceptional talent and it was ridiculous to take him off yesterday, completely broke the link to the forward players, and ultimately putting us under more pressure than needed, especially against a team from Azerbaijan.

When really, we could have taken Davis off (for Udogie), moved to three at the back and over run them in midfield, pinning them in their own half.

AS others have said, he has a great attitude, quick feet, and good footballing brain with vision too.

Needs to play more and would certainly start him over Sarr, along side Maddison. As both are entirely different kinds of creative attacking players.

 

[Raziel]

The guy is an exceptional talent and it was ridiculous to take him off yesterday, completely broke the link to the forward players, and ultimately putting us under more pressure than needed, especially against a team from Azerbaijan.

When really, we could have taken Davis off (for Udogie), moved to three at the back and over run them in midfield, pinning them in their own half.

AS others have said, he has a great attitude, quick feet, and good footballing brain with vision too.

Needs to play more and would certainly start him over Sarr, along side Maddison. As both are entirely different kinds of creative attacking players.

In hindsight on a 3-0 win you make this comment?

We never play 3 at the back but we should a man down?

Reality is Bervall is a very young, talented player but he lacks experience and it makes much more sense to move to a model we know, with players more experienced in their roles (especially in the back line), same as the decision to pull off Johnson (who is in great form) because Deki is a better fighter in a team that would obviously tire later in game.