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I aint no Sheikh-but lets talk weather

Evening all,

Just back from roasting my gonads off in Greece - such a contrast to the weather which we get over in the UK! It's record heat in the Greek Islands too at the moment; they've never known anything like it - poor fudgers.

Anyway, if any of you want to really learn about how the movement of air in the upper atmosphere corresponds to pressure differentials at the surface, then I implore you to watch this brilliant video made by Chris Fawkes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18876550

He articulates and illustrates very well the inter-reliant relationship and how 'upstream' (US / Canada) signals dictate the weather 4,000 miles away. It's this governing principle by which it pays to observe the weather which is transiting off the Eastern seaboard of the United States.

Indeed the good news is that there is a much awaited pattern change in operation. But how long can this pattern be sustained? Well, it all really depends on AAM (Atmospheric Angular Momentum) and you'd want this to remain a high value, so that the jet stream retains its northerly regression. In the short-term (10 days, using these indices) AAM is conducive, which correlates to the forecasted warming pattern. However, in the medium range (10-20 days) AAM is forecast to rapidly drop; so, less conducive to the high pressure build, and more likely for - yet again - southern progression of the jet stream. It's not an absolute relationship though, merely atmospheric conditions which tend to control the 60:40 variations in calculations.

Long-term pressure anomalies do, however, suggest a mean anomaly over NW Europe though August & September. What does this mean? In simple terms: a signal that something more resembling summer will be dominant, indeed the classic - and now fairly commonplace for the UK - "Indian Summer". It's been a very disappointing summer weather-wise, but unfortunately this is often the case for Northern Europe when there is an ENSO transition in the southern oceans. Too much change in SSTs tends to alter otherwise settled patterns as energy is continually displaced; moderation is the key to sustainability.

I'm already looking towards the winter, and how the prevailing patterns we're experiencing now may be extrapolated forward 6mths or so. The models are continually suggesting pressure rises over Greenland, which is conducive to cold feeds of air from both the northern and eastern sectors. Early days, but - to me - this suggests we may be in for another cold winter; indeed having viewed the latest CFS forecast, you can see a very pronounced cold temperature anomaly through into April of next year: http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/images3/euT2mProbSea.gif CFS also propagates below average precipitation, which suggests a high pressure dominated weather pattern. To note: it's this high pressure blocking which resulted in those very harsh winters we've been experiencing. But we're talking 6mths+ away here, just gives you an indication as to how - even at this range - you can begin to form an opinion as to prevailing patterns many months down the line.
 
Thanks again....most informative. Now i just need the bloody fields to dry out so i can get on and do stuff.
 
Evening all,

Just back from roasting my gonads off in Greece - such a contrast to the weather which we get over in the UK! It's record heat in the Greek Islands too at the moment; they've never known anything like it - poor fudgers.

Anyway, if any of you want to really learn about how the movement of air in the upper atmosphere corresponds to pressure differentials at the surface, then I implore you to watch this brilliant video made by Chris Fawkes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18876550

He articulates and illustrates very well the inter-reliant relationship and how 'upstream' (US / Canada) signals dictate the weather 4,000 miles away. It's this governing principle by which it pays to observe the weather which is transiting off the Eastern seaboard of the United States.

Indeed the good news is that there is a much awaited pattern change in operation. But how long can this pattern be sustained? Well, it all really depends on AAM (Atmospheric Angular Momentum) and you'd want this to remain a high value, so that the jet stream retains its northerly regression. In the short-term (10 days, using these indices) AAM is conducive, which correlates to the forecasted warming pattern. However, in the medium range (10-20 days) AAM is forecast to rapidly drop; so, less conducive to the high pressure build, and more likely for - yet again - southern progression of the jet stream. It's not an absolute relationship though, merely atmospheric conditions which tend to control the 60:40 variations in calculations.

Long-term pressure anomalies do, however, suggest a mean anomaly over NW Europe though August & September. What does this mean? In simple terms: a signal that something more resembling summer will be dominant, indeed the classic - and now fairly commonplace for the UK - "Indian Summer". It's been a very disappointing summer weather-wise, but unfortunately this is often the case for Northern Europe when there is an ENSO transition in the southern oceans. Too much change in SSTs tends to alter otherwise settled patterns as energy is continually displaced; moderation is the key to sustainability.

I'm already looking towards the winter, and how the prevailing patterns we're experiencing now may be extrapolated forward 6mths or so. The models are continually suggesting pressure rises over Greenland, which is conducive to cold feeds of air from both the northern and eastern sectors. Early days, but - to me - this suggests we may be in for another cold winter; indeed having viewed the latest CFS forecast, you can see a very pronounced cold temperature anomaly through into April of next year: http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/images3/euT2mProbSea.gif CFS also propagates below average precipitation, which suggests a high pressure dominated weather pattern. To note: it's this high pressure blocking which resulted in those very harsh winters we've been experiencing. But we're talking 6mths+ away here, just gives you an indication as to how - even at this range - you can begin to form an opinion as to prevailing patterns many months down the line.

Most weather experts say that predicting the weather for anything beyond 5 days or so is sketchy at best. They shouldn't ask weather experts to predict if we will get a decent summer for this reason.
 
Most weather experts say that predicting the weather for anything beyond 5 days or so is sketchy at best. They shouldn't ask weather experts to predict if we will get a decent summer for this reason.

Longer-term weather (the sort of 30 - 90 day range) is more about patterns and trends; the displacement of energy, pressure and heat. You can take those variables, apply some general rules of thermo and fluid dynamics, and arrive at some probability calls. You then use reanalysis techniques to judge whether the probability is plausible or not. Ironically, it's somewhat easier to forecast longterm atmospheric patterns and trends than it is the incredibly short-term actual weather.

For detailed localised weather - within the 5 day range - you need the power of supercomputers to crunch the numbers to spit out regional forecasts, as the calculations I've outlined above have to be performed one trillion times a second, for about 6hrs. This is because these models are run in such high resolution (2km/sq & 60 atmospheric layers) It's from these short-term ensembles which you can look at the detailed variations. In general, the advancement has been 10yrs to grow confidence by 1 day; however, I expect this to half as supercomputers get more and more powerful.

CFS (Climate Forecast System) is essentially a mathematical model which tries to purely identify anomalies in percentage terms, ie: exactly what I describe in the first paragraph; there's no 'detail', just a rough pattern. It's a low-res (maybe 20km/sq ~ 30 atmospheric layer) model, as running in any higher isn't greatly feasible, either in cost or general reliability. The guiding principle is such that the 'wisdom of the crowd' (the crowd being the different ensembles) will determine the pattern and, in general, it's not that bad.

I'd say the best mid-term (15-30 days) model at the moment, is the one which is run by the ECMWF - at operational high-res, every 30 days or so. This model takes 24 full computing hours to generate a forecast, hence why it's only run in such high-res once a month. The significant cost is recovered by selling the output to various agencies to whom weather is vitally important. ECMWF also runs to 365 days but the output tends to suggest that it's not as reliable as CFS when it comes to seasonal prediction, hence the focus on the mid-term.

It's all horses for courses really, working from very low to very high-res:

  • CFS for seasonal anomalies
  • ECMWF for monthly patterns
  • UKMO for weekly outlook
  • NAE for daily variation
  • UKV for hourly detail
 
Very important paper released which carried out climatological analysis on the major weather events of 2011:

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/bams-sotc/2011-peterson-et-al.pdf

Main gist is that: on a probability of extreme events occurring, heat is increasing whereas cold is decreasing and there is also significant evidence to suggest that human behaviour is influencing this probability curve. This is owing, largely, to the introduction of more CFCs and burning of fossil fuels inter alia how that external influence to the natural climate results in a +/- variance to the probability of resulting extreme weather.
 
Another top night planned tonight is going to be ruined by the poxy weather, off to Newmarket races in about 35 mins, its tinkling it down, means no clunge with hardly any clothes on, seriously im dressed for winter its really chilly too
 
Bad luck cobber, it's sun from tomorrow onwards. It's nice in the city at the moment.

This pleases me, got 2 golf days next week and its looking good currently...

The rain in Essex right now is like one final hurrah it seems, lashing it down
 
Marked increase in weather from late Sunday chaps: should be around 30c in the SE by Wednesday. Nice!

However as I suggested, there are conflicting signals as to how long this little heatwave is going to last; some suggestions of a breakdown just in time to drown out the Opening Ceremony, whereas other signals suggest a drier and more prolonged spell of warmth. It's all to do with orientation of the high pressure cell which is going to build over us.

My personal hunch is that it will build unfavourably and thus set conditions for an easier and quicker breakdown. I'd happily be wrong though; favourable orientation with supporting AAM and we'd be locked in for about 10-14 days, which would be very nice!

All about how things look on Sunday evening I'd say.
 
Hows that 14 day weather looking now?? I see allot of the websites are saying it will break down some time Friday / Saturday!
 
Hows that 14 day weather looking now?? I see allot of the websites are saying it will break down some time Friday / Saturday!

Well as I suggested as my hunch, the ridge has indeed built unfavourably - leading to, again as I suggested, an almost on-cue opening of the heavens around the time of the Opening Ceremony. Perfect atmospheric conditions for spectacular thunderstorms to develop over NW France and feed in over our shores.

The Met Office haven't yet issued any warnings for Friday - probably not wanting to dampen enthusiasm for the Olympics - but there is now the significant and risk of some severe downpours over that region come late Friday. I suspect they'll be taking a view on it over the next 12hrs or so, with probably warnings issued by tomorrow lunchtime.

Longer term outlook, as a consequence of unfavourable pressure patterns outlined above, now returns to 'unsettled' being the form horse: basically rain, rain, rain but generally fairly mild. That's been the story of the season so far, and as the days get shorter there’s is an exponential correlation between % chance of change, and the period of time involved. In short, if you enter August unsettled then, in terms of the atmosphere, you're up against it.

August is notoriously very difficult to forecast at the best of times; it really can be utterly brick, or utterly record-breaking. My thoughts at this stage are that it'll probably continue the unsettled theme, but - at some stage - 3-5 day spells of sunny, warm weather. Just haven't had the proper pressure patterns really this summer; it's been very abnormal for a good 3yrs now, including the winters.

We do, of late, seem to have had an increase in the probability of 'indian summer' conditions (late August, September, early October) developing and - at this stage - I wouldn't exactly write that off. I did say yonks ago that there can be a delay in ridging, and that was the biggest risk. One can only hope that recent history (last 3 or 4 summer~autumn transitions) gives a nice interlude.
 
Thanks, have been trying to convince my self all day that this was going to last at least till the end of next month....And now you have gone and burst that bubble. Oh well just as long as we don't have that continual rain again the fields should be ok.

Many thanks again
 
Am going to Glorious Goodwood on thursday (Ladies Day)

I hope its got a chance of being sunny as I want to be seeing women wearing as little as possible really..
 
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