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Hugo Lloris

ArcspacE said:
And that would be a poor decision, imv
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In terms of getting results, I don't think it makes a lot of difference, they are both decent keepers. Logic suggests that sooner or later Lloris will be established as first choice but I think that AVB should be given the freedom to manage the transition as he sees fit.
 
milo said:
In terms of getting results, I don't think it makes a lot of difference, they are both decent keepers. Logic suggests that sooner or later Lloris will be established as first choice but I think that AVB should be given the freedom to manage the transition as he sees fit.
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Of course mate, agreed, but there will be a difference. Age dictates that your reactions at 41 are going to be a little less than your reactions at 25...
 
thfcsteff said:
Of course mate, agreed, but there will be a difference. Age dictates that your reactions at 41 are going to be a little less than your reactions at 25...
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Brad is as fit as a fiddle.

I don't even believe Lloris is an upgrade. Lloris is better coming off of his line, but his command of the area, shot stopping and distribution aren't any better than Friedel's and he makes a lot more eccentric errors. Lloris is younger, and that's all he has over Brad.
 
milo said:
In terms of getting results, I don't think it makes a lot of difference, they are both decent keepers. Logic suggests that sooner or later Lloris will be established as first choice but I think that AVB should be given the freedom to manage the transition as he sees fit.
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And this is where I fundamentally disagree on this topic - a higher grade keeper can make a massive difference in the outcome of the game. Not to mention that keeper rotation is hardly the answer bearing in mind he's reluctant to even rotate our 2 strikers.
 
ArcspacE said:
And this is where I fundamentally disagree on this topic - a higher grade keeper can make a massive difference in the outcome of the game. Not to mention that keeper rotation is hardly the answer bearing in mind he's reluctant to even rotate our 2 strikers.
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Which result do you think would have been different if Hugo had played instead of Brad?
 
milo said:
Which result do you think would have been different if Hugo had played instead of Brad?
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I like Friedel and like Lloris - not been in this debate as I just dont care who is in goal. However I dont think its as simple as saying which results will have been different. I think with Lloris he comes out and can command the area (from the little I have seen of him) which helps in instilling confidence in the defence etc.

I wont say that Lloris will have changed results (for good or for bad) but for me he instills confidence as I do like to see a keeper come off his line and come to the edge of his box etc. Friedel lacks that. In my view both are on par shot stopping wise but Lloris has much better command of his area and thats why I would like Lloris in goal.
 
On the Ball said:
Brad is as fit as a fiddle.

I don't even believe Lloris is an upgrade. Lloris is better coming off of his line, but his command of the area, shot stopping and distribution aren't any better than Friedel's and he makes a lot more eccentric errors. Lloris is younger, and that's all he has over Brad.
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I didn't say Friedel wasn't fit, you're missing my point. You can be the fittest guy in the universe, but at 41 your reactions are not always going to be the same as a 25 year old's.

Incidentaly, I applaud his embrace of yoga (like Giggs) but I still think it's time.
 
diego_maradona said:
I still love Gomes. I would happily have him as our no.1 today, and have always maintained that.
Thought he might get a fair go under AVB before we signed Lloris
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You and I might be the only two Gomes supporters left here...but I have accepted he's on his way at some point sadly...
 
I think Lloris is better than Friedel, but regardless of that: Lloris is the future of our club, not Friedel. There is absolutely nothing to gain from keeping Friedel as number 1. All this talk about merit and keeping your place is just gonads. The best players should play more than the other ones and for the GK spot there is no reason not to start Lloris.
 
Jordinho said:
I think Lloris is better than Friedel, but regardless of that: Lloris is the future of our club, not Friedel. There is absolutely nothing to gain from keeping Friedel as number 1. All this talk about merit and keeping your place is just gonads. The best players should play more than the other ones and for the GK spot there is no reason not to start Lloris.
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milo said:
Which result do you think would have been different if Hugo had played instead of Brad?
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Noriwch, WBA and Chelsea could have been different. He could have saved Ben Arfa's penalty. Yes, we would never know but a high-class keeper can make a difference. If you are suggesting otherwise there is little we can debate forward on this topic.
 
Jordinho said:
I think Lloris is better than Friedel, but regardless of that: Lloris is the future of our club, not Friedel. There is absolutely nothing to gain from keeping Friedel as number 1. All this talk about merit and keeping your place is just gonads. The best players should play more than the other ones and for the GK spot there is no reason not to start Lloris.
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I have not followed France closely so can't say who is the better goalie but Lloris is the future unless he gets the hump and becomes history.
AVB has form for giving top players the hump and I do not want a repeat at Spurs.
Put me down as a third Gomes fan.

Edit: What, 4 of us?
 
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Lloris seems to have a forward motion to his play, a decisive, high energy approach that makes the defence and midfield press the oppo more.
With the way we line up and play, i beleive lloris' style will help us win games.
Im a big friedal fan, but i think its time for consistency in the lge,and time for lloris.
Play brad in the cups however,as i think his experience and leadership will
give us an edge in such games.
 
AVB should just play Lloris now. Regardless of what Brad deserves, we need to look at it logically in terms of the club. If Lloris is the future bed him in now and play him in the same way the decision of Caulker over Dawson had now been made. King and that idiot Campbell wouldn't have been as good without having been thrown in and given games even in what was then, poor sides
 
Seeing Julio Cesar today against Arsenal, he was World Class. Almost won QPR a point single handedly but at the end, shocking officiating cost him a cleansheet and his team a point. Makes me want Lloris in goal as he is capable.
 
ArcspacE said:
Noriwch, WBA and Chelsea could have been different. He could have saved Ben Arfa's penalty. Yes, we would never know but a high-class keeper can make a difference. If you are suggesting otherwise there is little we can debate forward on this topic.
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How many more points do you think we would have if Lloris had started those games?
 
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