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Hugo Lloris
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braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Agreed, the Muamba thing is a complete non-sequitur and I think AVB knows as much too. Rarely seen AVB this defensive about anything in the press whilst at Spurs, but hopefully it will blow over soon and we can get back to football.
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indianspur
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AVB also claiming that Lukaku could have jumped over Lloris and that Lukaku hasnt contacted Lloris since the incident......at the same time AVB says he doesnt question Lukaku's integrity :-k
I think its best if AVB talks less
I think its best if AVB talks less
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indianspur
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AVB,.......
"I want to believe that Lukaku’s leg was not left late to clash into Hugo’s head,”
"I find it remarkable through all of this amount of publicity that this incident has gotten, nobody has dedicated themselves to find out if the player could have avoided the goalkeeper.
"I’m disappointed Lukaku hasn’t contacted Hugo.”
"Lukaku is a wonderful footballer and I don’t question his integrity. We had a warm hug on the pitch before the game and I’ve maximum respect for him as I think he has for me."
"I want to believe that Lukaku’s leg was not left late to clash into Hugo’s head,”
"I find it remarkable through all of this amount of publicity that this incident has gotten, nobody has dedicated themselves to find out if the player could have avoided the goalkeeper.
"I’m disappointed Lukaku hasn’t contacted Hugo.”
"Lukaku is a wonderful footballer and I don’t question his integrity. We had a warm hug on the pitch before the game and I’ve maximum respect for him as I think he has for me."
chancer
Gudni Bergsson
I don't like these comments. Does AVB think Luk left his leg there or not? If he does, say so. But throwing the half-suggestion out there but being non-committal about it is kinda cowardly and makes it look like an attempt at distraction.
Kingdawson
Banned
These comments are rather pathetic.
Mulletperm
Mauricio Taricco
Disappointing from AVB
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
The lukaku comments are a bit off there, it's a shame, as I think AVB handles himself very well usually, hopefully not feeling the pressure. If he wanted to re-focus the attention slightly he could have mentioned why the same fuss wasn't made for lukaku at west ham, which is a perfectly valid question.
Millsy_Yiddo
Naybet
He's trying to protect his medical team. By saying what he said tomorrow's story will now be 'AVB think Lukaku is a dirty scumbag who goes around kneeing goalkeepers in the head' rather than 'Spurs inept medical team allow a man who could have died to stay on the pitch'*
*I don't feel the medical team are inept in any way and stand by what I said in the thread earlier.
*I don't feel the medical team are inept in any way and stand by what I said in the thread earlier.
ringo
Tim Sherwood
Don't know if it has already been mentioned but what are the rules on this in other sports. Rugby, for example. Or hockey? (Shouldn't think there is rule for golf or table tennis)
Incidentally, I can't imagine what Loris did was much worse than your average 12 rounds boxing match where boxers are frequently out on their feet, stunned and knocked down, yet carry on.
From what I saw it looked completely accidental, even unavoidable. The ball comes in, Lukaku watches the flight of the ball, then glances to his left and sees Lloris. He pushes off from his left foot in his normal stride, Lloris collects the ball and slides into Lukaku's knee. At the time of the impact Lukaku has both feet of the ground. It's not easy for Lukaku to get out of the way, and Lloris was pretty unlucky to just catch his knee.
Incidentally, I can't imagine what Loris did was much worse than your average 12 rounds boxing match where boxers are frequently out on their feet, stunned and knocked down, yet carry on.
From what I saw it looked completely accidental, even unavoidable. The ball comes in, Lukaku watches the flight of the ball, then glances to his left and sees Lloris. He pushes off from his left foot in his normal stride, Lloris collects the ball and slides into Lukaku's knee. At the time of the impact Lukaku has both feet of the ground. It's not easy for Lukaku to get out of the way, and Lloris was pretty unlucky to just catch his knee.
RunTMC
Steven Caulker
Boxers tend to get brain damage later in life after they retire as a result of repeated blows to the head. Refs are encouraged to stop the fight if the boxer is out on his feet and taking unanswered punishment.
If they get knocked out, they are not allowed to fight for a month
If they get knocked out, they are not allowed to fight for a month
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
I don't think he should have mentioned that either. If Lukaku contacted Lloris or not it is a private matter between the two individuals and should not be used by AVB to deflect from Spurs actions in this case, which were irresponsible IMO. AVB is painting Lukaku in a bad light with these comments and they are certainly not warranted. Lukaku is completely blameless in all of this.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
agreed
chancer
Gudni Bergsson
Ok, but that leaves out the fact it was AVB who put the medics in the tough position in the first place by being so equivocal on the touchline. He should have gone over and asked the chief medic his opinion and then acted solely on that advice. He didn't...he kinda just crossed his fingers and left it to unfold.
Fwiw, I put the initial mistake down to the fog of war. That's understandable and forgiveable. But he should stop digging the hole now.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I think AVB is right to ask questions about Lukaku, as I've said in other threads I don't quite understand why people think it's fine for him to thunder into Lloris like that so late. No one would think it's fine to clatter an outfield player like that after the ball has been played, why is it ok when the goalkeeper is first to the ball? Would like to hear someone defend this right for strikers against goalkeepers that doesn't exist between outfield players when goalkeepers will by nature be more vulnerable.
Why is there no right to "go for the ball" when the last man is playing a pass and you have a chance to win it as a striker that carries over into a right to be late into the situation and clatter him?
Raphael Hoenigstein (I think) raised the same question on the football weekly pod, but the other pundits disagreed with him. Hoenigstein thought it was only in England that "he has a right to go for the ball" would be used as an excuse for a player doing that.
Why is there no right to "go for the ball" when the last man is playing a pass and you have a chance to win it as a striker that carries over into a right to be late into the situation and clatter him?
Raphael Hoenigstein (I think) raised the same question on the football weekly pod, but the other pundits disagreed with him. Hoenigstein thought it was only in England that "he has a right to go for the ball" would be used as an excuse for a player doing that.
Millsy_Yiddo
Naybet
We don't know that he didn't do that. At the time there was someone talking in his ear (can't remember who though), who could have been relaying a message fed back by the medical team. The bottom line is, no one aside from AVB, the medical team and Lloris knows what actually went on. If it was a case of AVB over-ruling the medical guys then we'll never know but I'd say we can be pretty sure it won't happen again if that was the case.
Regarding the Lukaku comments, the ref booked Lukaku after it, so I assume he felt there was something in it. Would be interesting to see his match report.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Don't mean to be dramatic, but I was disappointed and flabbergasted by AVB's latest comments. This was a good opportunity for him to admit he made a mistake. He has the nerve to question highly trained medical professionals such as the Headway charity. He may know more about football, but I'm guessing they know more about brain injuries than himself. And correct me If I'm wrong, but I don't remember anyone questioning our medical staff as AVB pointed out that he overruled them?
Two issues I'd also like to give my two cents worth about:
1. Why wasn't there more fuss made about the Lukaku West Ham incident? That game was on a Saturday whilst ours was the highest profile game on the Sunday, probably a slow news day too.
2. Could/should Lukaku have gotten out of the way? Yeah he could have done things differently but there was absolutely no way he set out to make contact with Lloris's head.
Two issues I'd also like to give my two cents worth about:
1. Why wasn't there more fuss made about the Lukaku West Ham incident? That game was on a Saturday whilst ours was the highest profile game on the Sunday, probably a slow news day too.
2. Could/should Lukaku have gotten out of the way? Yeah he could have done things differently but there was absolutely no way he set out to make contact with Lloris's head.