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Gareth Bale

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why is that more likely?

Has AVB never told an ALLEGED lie before? Is he a saint above all others?

Infact is it actually common practice for a manager to tell the truth most of the times? Do you believe most of what professional sports men tell the press?

Alot of questions i know , actually not that many, but what i am trying to get at is that its just as likely a lie as it could be a truth being told here by AVB. i see no reason to think otherwise...and what he did there was distance himself from Levy and whatever transpires with bale. Almost like "hey if we sell him its not my fault" or "i cant be held responsible for the state of the team if Levy sells bale"

why not show a bit of unity? "WE wont be selling bale" finish...this harping on with "what i have been told"

its very similar to how harry has put pressure on levy in the past.....AVB appears to be putting the same kind of "focus the spotlight on levy" pressure that we all saw harry do

Well, among the many things which are different in this case, AVB got Baldini as a DoF to finish the deals which could not be finished prior/get the players, so let's see how that works out. But already AVB has something he wanted.

AVB has said on numerous occasions that Bale won't be sold. He has said this because the chairman has insisted he will take a 'Modric' stance if need be with regards to the player although I can tell you Bale's agent is no agitator in the way Modric's was, and Bale is pretty settled with what he wants from life in the immediate future.

The main problem is the tapping up (which has gone far beyond what's been reported) but the boy is cool.

With regards to denials, it becomes a case of the old 'manager's vote of confidence' in this case. There is no reason for Levy to publicly state Bale is not being sold, because Bale has not handed in a transfer request because all parties are pretty clear on the situation. If Bale were to have handed one in, then you'd see the statement. Until that happened, no-one really has to say anything because there's nothing to say. Bale is signed to a contract, Levy won't sell him and Bale hasn't asked to go. Only the desperate bleatings and (frankly) disrespectful pressure by Madrid is creating a perpetual story here.

With regards to whether AVB tells the truth or not, it's my view that he might actually still be a little too young/naive (?) to play the sort of games that, err, 'elder' managers play routinely. I cannot think of a time last season when he flat-out went for a full deceiver...time will tell with regards to AVB.
 
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Keep them coming AVB....i predict at least 5 more comments about 'Levy's promise' before the window is done.

Can I ask, what do you expect him to say? Would you like him to make something up? Genuine question as I don't understand the thrust of your fascination with this...
 
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If he goes, he goes but... the transfer fee would be atsronomical and if it is in the region of 60-80 million and the transfer went through well before the end of the window I would bite their hand off.

Won't happen.

Indeed, the only wild scenario that might even get people thinking about it, is if Ronaldo came here LOL...look, Bale will be here next season, no worries, always was always will be...
 
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I don't understand this question? a question about Bale means he automatically has to bring us Levy's promise?

I agree. Why mention Levy? Redknapp used to do it too. It smacks of one of two things. The Manager covering his own arse in the eyes of the fan, or a Manager who doesn't see eye to eye with Levy and is publically trying to force Levy's hand (in those case publically trying to ensure Levy sticks to his word I'd imagine).

The most telling thing for me was a few weeks ago when AVB said he was very keen to get a Director of Football in, as it bridges the gap. Telling because there's a gap and also because reading between the lines AVB really wants a buffer between himself and Levy.
 
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Bale is not leaving.

I don't think he will leave, and I think he'll give us one more season of non-Champion's League football. But if a massive bid does materialise it may just be too tempting for Levy to turn down from a pure business sense. £80m goes a long way to funding the new stadium.
 
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I agree. Why mention Levy? Redknapp used to do it too. It smacks of one of two things. The Manager covering his own arse in the eyes of the fan, or a Manager who doesn't see eye to eye with Levy and is publically trying to force Levy's hand (in those case publically trying to ensure Levy sticks to his word I'd imagine).

The most telling thing for me was a few weeks ago when AVB said he was very keen to get a Director of Football in, as it bridges the gap. Telling because there's a gap and also because reading between the lines AVB really wants a buffer between himself and Levy.


Vivid imagination. Football isn't always like Prime Suspect.

I know you hate Levy, and have done for some years, but you seem to have forgotten that it was Levy who has always wanted a DoF and Levy who has always looked to get one. Baldini was AVB's choice and Levy agreed. It is the third time he has had a legitimate DoF (I don't include David Pleat)...

EDIT: By the way, I judge the Levy I see. And if he were to go back on his (very committed) word, I'd be as furious as the next person for a variety of reasons.
 
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Vivid imagination. Football isn't always like Prime Suspect.

I know you hate Levy, and have done for some years, but you seem to have forgotten that it was Levy who has always wanted a DoF and Levy who has always looked to get one. Baldini was AVB's choice and Levy agreed. It is the third time he has had a legitimate DoF (I don't include David Pleat)...

I don't hate Levy, and how the fudge do you know what I've done for some years? I asked you to leave me alone because I know you are a mod and you are gunning for me. I ask you again to leave me alone.
 
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I don't hate Levy, and how the fudge do you know what I've done for some years? I asked you to leave me alone because I know you are a mod and you are gunning for me. I ask you again to leave me alone.

I'm sorry.
I had no idea you'd asked me to 'leave you alone'...genuine apologies for having forgotten that. And I will formally apologize for the 'some years' comment. You are right, how could I know something like that; I don't.

It was deduced from previous comments you've made about Levy since you joined the forum.

Again, apologies.
 
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this discussion has me feeling like im posting on a forum in the world of Twin Peaks :lol:
 
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this discussion has me feeling like im posting on a forum in the world of Twin Peaks :lol:

is that the episode where McLachlan goes behind the post office and finds the Levy voodoo doll left by a strange Spanish visitor in a dress with stubble who keeps on speaking about the horrible 'winds, rain and bale' in the Pacific North West?






...I'll get my coat...
 
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I agree. Why mention Levy? Redknapp used to do it too. It smacks of one of two things. The Manager covering his own arse in the eyes of the fan, or a Manager who doesn't see eye to eye with Levy and is publically trying to force Levy's hand (in those case publically trying to ensure Levy sticks to his word I'd imagine).

Occam's razor would suggest that it's simply AVB stating what he knows for certain - no more, no less.

If he were to say "I've decided Bale's not going" he'd be taking credit for a decision that isn't his to make. If he said "I don't know what's happening" he wouldn't be telling the truth and he'd further fan the Marca flames.

I can't see where this strange and over-elaborate conspiracy theory comes from.
 
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Occam's razor would suggest that it's simply AVB stating what he knows for certain - no more, no less.

If he were to say "I've decided Bale's not going" he'd be taking credit for a decision that isn't his to make. If he said "I don't know what's happening" he wouldn't be telling the truth and he'd further fan the Marca flames.

I can't see where this strange and over-elaborate conspiracy theory comes from.

Most likely from those who don't like Levy, or they just want Harry to look better, ie. others do it too.
 
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I don't think he will leave, and I think he'll give us one more season of non-Champion's League football. But if a massive bid does materialise it may just be too tempting for Levy to turn down from a pure business sense. £80m goes a long way to funding the new stadium.

On good authority I have been told that a deal has been done that includes outside backing where we can pay Gareth £135k per week and that he is happy to stay with us for two more years, however your comments do hold water, if we were offered £85m up front it would be prudent to take it very seriously.
 
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Most likely from those who don't like Levy, or they just want Harry to look better, ie. others do it too.

jesus man get over yourself ffs.

This site is going to the bricks man. It's like the AVB has some sort of weirdo cult following and as soon as you direct something that could be seen as a little negative (even though i clearly say i like what he's doing) people jump on things and make these accusations.
 
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Well, among the many things which are different in this case, AVB got Baldini as a DoF to finish the deals which could not be finished prior/get the players, so let's see how that works out. But already AVB has something he wanted.

AVB has said on numerous occasions that Bale won't be sold. He has said this because the chairman has insisted he will take a 'Modric' stance if need be with regards to the player although I can tell you Bale's agent is no agitator in the way Modric's was, and Bale is pretty settled with what he wants from life in the immediate future.

The main problem is the tapping up (which has gone far beyond what's been reported) but the boy is cool.

With regards to denials, it becomes a case of the old 'manager's vote of confidence' in this case. There is no reason for Levy to publicly state Bale is not being sold, because Bale has not handed in a transfer request because all parties are pretty clear on the situation. If Bale were to have handed one in, then you'd see the statement. Until that happened, no-one really has to say anything because there's nothing to say. Bale is signed to a contract, Levy won't sell him and Bale hasn't asked to go. Only the desperate bleatings and (frankly) disrespectful pressure by Madrid is creating a perpetual story here.

With regards to whether AVB tells the truth or not, it's my view that he might actually still be a little too young/naive (?) to play the sort of games that, err, 'elder' managers play routinely. I cannot think of a time last season when he flat-out went for a full deceiver...time will tell with regards to AVB.

You're right there Steff. With all the ball licking of Bale going on from Zidane et al, Bale really is being a cooool cat at the moment.

It would be so easy (and I'm sure there's a lot of players who would) for Bale to really be acting the big I Am at the moment but he's just keeping his council and getting on with enjoying his summer.

I do actually like the guy as a man as well as our player.
 
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Well, among the many things which are different in this case, AVB got Baldini as a DoF to finish the deals which could not be finished prior/get the players, so let's see how that works out. But already AVB has something he wanted.

AVB has said on numerous occasions that Bale won't be sold. He has said this because the chairman has insisted he will take a 'Modric' stance if need be with regards to the player although I can tell you Bale's agent is no agitator in the way Modric's was, and Bale is pretty settled with what he wants from life in the immediate future.

The main problem is the tapping up (which has gone far beyond what's been reported) but the boy is cool.

With regards to denials, it becomes a case of the old 'manager's vote of confidence' in this case. There is no reason for Levy to publicly state Bale is not being sold, because Bale has not handed in a transfer request because all parties are pretty clear on the situation. If Bale were to have handed one in, then you'd see the statement. Until that happened, no-one really has to say anything because there's nothing to say. Bale is signed to a contract, Levy won't sell him and Bale hasn't asked to go. Only the desperate bleatings and (frankly) disrespectful pressure by Madrid is creating a perpetual story here.

With regards to whether AVB tells the truth or not, it's my view that he might actually still be a little too young/naive (?) to play the sort of games that, err, 'elder' managers play routinely. I cannot think of a time last season when he flat-out went for a full deceiver...time will tell with regards to AVB.

i dont agree with the first bit in bold. Levy made that statement before the melee with modric and madrid got publicised . so as far as we know Levy doesnt need for someone to stir the pot before he lets people know he means business.

AVB is the guy that once said that he wasnt interested in modric when he was at chelsea and then a few weeks later he says tottenham cant make up their mind about selling modric to him. I am sure this guy has told a porky or two. i mean he told the press that it was all lies that we were in negotiations with him to be the new boss...its not like professionals are immune cause of how old they are

i still think that AVB is distancing himself from the decision and putting levy on the spotlight.
 
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thought Levy made the statement in question when it was Chelsea that were doing their best to tap him up via the media?
 
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