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Gareth Bale

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diego_maradona said:
Bale could do more for this club by being sold than he could playing for us despite his super human efforts. He is a legend
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I'll play along here and hypothesize (even though this will stone cold not happen)...100 million for a transfer like that would not reflect 100 million in the market. You can shrink it to 60 million at most. We will be quoted Carroll prices by everyone.

I stand by what I've consistently said... he will not be sold this summer.
 
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Liverpool spunked 100m on Carroll, Downing, Henderson, Coates, Adam and Allen. Getting £100m for Bale doesn't necessarily mean we'll be successful in reinvesting the cash in the right sort of players (knowing Levy it doesn't even guarantee we'll reinvest the cash on players).
 
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Kingdawson said:
Liverpool spunked 100m on Carroll, Downing, Henderson, Coates, Adam and Allen. Getting £100m for Bale doesn't necessarily mean we'll be successful in reinvesting the cash in the right sort of players (knowing Levy it doesn't even guarantee we'll reinvest the cash on players).
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Just because Liverpool failed to spend the cash correctly doesn't mean we shouldn't try. We should be an ambitious club, if we feel that we have the chance to improve ourselves we should be trying to take it.
 
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Spursalot said:
Just because Liverpool failed to spend the cash correctly doesn't mean we shouldn't try. We should be an ambitious club, if we feel that we have the chance to improve ourselves we should be trying to take it.
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what? how is selling Bale showing ambition?
 
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Kingdawson said:
what? how is selling Bale showing ambition?
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Taking a chance to improve Spurs is ambition is it not?


If we are offered the money that would improve us beyond having Bale here, it would be a lack of ambition if we turned it down.
 
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It isn't. Showing ambition would be keeping Bale and signing four players this summer that can go straight into the first team and make us title contenders.
 
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Rossi22 said:
It isn't. Showing ambition would be keeping Bale and signing four players this summer that can go straight into the first team and make us title contenders.
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That would also be ambitious, however i doubt we'll find four players we can afford that would become instant first team players.
 
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Spursalot said:
Taking a chance to improve Spurs is ambition is it not?


If we are offered the money that would improve us beyond having Bale here, it would be a lack of ambition if we turned it down.
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The greatest spin i've ever read on GG history.

Selling our best player for whatever cash can in now way, shape, or form be considered "ambitious" whatever the price he goes for. Turning down the cash shows "a lack of ambition"? i cannot tell you how much i disagree.

Selling our best player..merely to break even in the transfer market shows nothing but, in your words "taking a chance". If however we sold Bale for 100m and added the cash to an existing budget of 100m then i could somehow be convinced that we're showing ambition.
 
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Rossi22 said:
It isn't. Showing ambition would be keeping Bale and signing four players this summer that can go straight into the first team and make us title contenders.
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i didn't realize there was only one way to show ambition
 
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billyiddo said:
unfortunately there's no guarantee in football that an investment such as the example you suggest (50m - in one window i presume?) would bring success, let alone sustained success which would be required to see a return on his investment - especially when you consider we are in a league already bloated with cash rich sides (two sugar daddy clubs and two established elite who make big money in a more 'legitimate' manner)

Lewis/Levy/Enic - it isn't logical from their point of view to pump in their own money in an attempt to bring success on the field (and with it financial success off of it) 50m is a lot of money, more than a quarter of our annual turnover - how long would it take for them to see that return? CL qualification brings in 40m on average? we've already seen from the year we had in the competition that that doesn't translate to 40m profit - far from it as outgoings also rise so the money gets eaten up, so from an investment point of view the numbers just don't add up against the risk

it's much more logical/safe for them to build the club up to a point where we perform to our best financially and then re invest that money in to the club. which is what we do tbf
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I plucked those figures out of the air, I dont know whether 50m is enough I dont know whether 5m is enough I dont know whether 500m is enough... There is a difference though between 50m and pumping hundreds of millions.

You mention risk, which I think is where we need to increase our risk apetite as at the moment it MAY be holding us back. Im not talking about doing a Risdale, I wouldnt even stand for that, but maybe instead of waiting till last minute in a window, we could take a risk by actually signing players at an earlier stage.


Spurs = 100m is plucked out of thin air, who knows what the return would be. With CL football 'as standard' and with continuing success the club will no doubt be worth more.

Then again there is a school of thought that by NOT being so successful and by NOT maximising the potential and realising it - there is more opportunity for people to see us as a more attractive proposition. Lets be honest if a club is SO SO SO successful there isnt much more a potential investor could do with it. Whereas a club like us, teetering on the edge - an investor would see it as a more potential opporunity.
 
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Kingdawson said:
The greatest spin i've ever read on GG history.

Selling our best player for whatever cash can in now way, shape, or form be considered "ambitious" whatever the price he goes for. Turning down the cash shows "a lack of ambition"? i cannot tell you how much i disagree.

Selling our best player..merely to break even in the transfer market shows nothing but, in your words "taking a chance". If however we sold Bale for 100m and added the cash to an existing budget of 100m then i could somehow be convinced that we're showing ambition.
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It's not spin, it's pretty simple really.


If we can sell Bale and buy players who improve us more than we are with Bale, how can that be anything other than an ambitious move?



So you are telling me, if we sold Bale for £100m and then purchased a 20 goal a season striker, a 20 goal+assist AM and a 10 goal a season RW using that £100m it would not be being ambitious?
 
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billyiddo said:
if we feel that with the money from the sale we can improve the team more than with him in it?
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No;;y - there are two things to note

1) I genuinely dont think people have every faith in Levy et al from spending it wisely (I certainly dont - you can call it unwarranted and thats fine but I wouldnt be confident AT ALL)
2) How are we to attract players without CL football and with selling players like Bale? Youre going to bring up Lloris et al and thats fine but the players we need arent in defence the players we need are in attack where the number of high quality players available is near on impossible to find. They are in greater demand.
 
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Spursalot said:
It's not spin, it's pretty simple really.


If we can sell Bale and buy players who improve us more than we are with Bale, how can that be anything other than an ambitious move?



So you are telling me, if we sold Bale for £100m and then purchased a 20 goal a season striker, a 20 goal+assist AM and a 10 goal a season RW using that £100m it would not be being ambitious?
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No not ambitious. It would mean we took a big gamble that payed off but ambitious? selling our world class player only to break even can in no way be considered ambitious imo.
 
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Keep him, make him the focal point of the team and spend £60m on quality all around him now thats showing ambition
 
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