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Gareth Bale
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Dicko
Paul Stalteri
Re: Gareth Bale
He's been desperate for Fergie to retire for a while now but I don't think he can stick it out at Real for long enough to wait for him.
He's been desperate for Fergie to retire for a while now but I don't think he can stick it out at Real for long enough to wait for him.
Lost Mango
Pascal Chimbonda
Re: Gareth Bale
Agree there aren't any likely candidates out there currently but why would City keep him?
Despite having spent shedloads and on paper having the strongest squad they crashed out of CL early again this season, aren't going to win the EPl this season and only won last year because Utd screwed up. What does Mancini offer for the future? Will they really stick with him for another year of mediocrity only made successful by other people's **** ups?
Agree there aren't any likely candidates out there currently but why would City keep him?
Despite having spent shedloads and on paper having the strongest squad they crashed out of CL early again this season, aren't going to win the EPl this season and only won last year because Utd screwed up. What does Mancini offer for the future? Will they really stick with him for another year of mediocrity only made successful by other people's **** ups?
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indianspur
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Re: Gareth Bale
Spurs are already giving Bale a good wage ( according to reports Bale signed a new deal in the summer worth 100k a week) and of course the club wants to build a team around him. However it will ultimately come down to the desire of the player. If Bale is attracted more by the increased chance of success and money at a Real, Barca, City or Utd then how much longer can Spurs keep him? can we realistically offer him the chance of winning the Premier League/La Liga or the Champions League like those clubs can? If Bale wants to start winning the top medals, then id say we are a new stadium away from getting to that kind of level. Does Bale want to wait another 3 or 4 years for this new stadium?
Im sure Levy doesnt want to sell Bale, just like he never wanted to sell Modric and Berbatov. However what can a club do when a player really wants to leave. Even United had to relent and allow Ronaldo to go. Arse eventually allowed Fabregas to join Barca. The players have all the power and one way or another will get their way
Spurs are already giving Bale a good wage ( according to reports Bale signed a new deal in the summer worth 100k a week) and of course the club wants to build a team around him. However it will ultimately come down to the desire of the player. If Bale is attracted more by the increased chance of success and money at a Real, Barca, City or Utd then how much longer can Spurs keep him? can we realistically offer him the chance of winning the Premier League/La Liga or the Champions League like those clubs can? If Bale wants to start winning the top medals, then id say we are a new stadium away from getting to that kind of level. Does Bale want to wait another 3 or 4 years for this new stadium?
Im sure Levy doesnt want to sell Bale, just like he never wanted to sell Modric and Berbatov. However what can a club do when a player really wants to leave. Even United had to relent and allow Ronaldo to go. Arse eventually allowed Fabregas to join Barca. The players have all the power and one way or another will get their way
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indianspur
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Re: Gareth Bale
this is a decent article regarding Mourinho's options
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2277745/Martin-Samuel-Jose-Mourinho-destructive-Manchester-United-City.html
the bit about City.......
Yet there is no way in for him at City, even if the capitulation this season spells the end for Roberto Mancini. The Barcelona influence at the club - chief executive Ferran Soriano and director of football Txiki Begiristain - are too settled on treating Mourinho as the enemy.
Their reports to Sheik Mansour will paint him as a negative, disruptive individual, harmful to the good name of the club. And that name is important.
It is why Abu Dhabi's royal family bought Emirates Marketing Project in the first place. Even without the disquiet at executive level, Mourinho was going to be a hard sell. The region and its rulers are now associated worldwide with English football and are happy with the link.
City have largely been successful, and even when they haven't, Mancini's odd spat with Carlos Tevez or a referee has not adversely affected their reputation.
Abu Dhabi's representatives are content for their football club to be the ice-breaker in rooms of the great and good.
'How is the team going?' a well-briefed president will ask, and the conversation eases from there to more serious matters of state.
There would not be such comfort around a fresh episode of touchline eyepoking, as occurred against Barcelona in 2011. 'How's that manager of yours, half-blinded anyone lately?' does not have the same ring to it.
City want to be seen to be successful, but they also want to be seen behaving in the correct manner. The representative who made gauche claims about buying Cristiano Ronaldo on the day of the Abu Dhabi takeover has not been heard from since.
City have spent big and make no apologies for it, but the club has no debt, is embarking on a project that will benefit the local community and does not sack two managers each year.
The owners are intent on projecting the right image and were wary of Mourinho's dark reputation long before his adversaries, late of Barcelona, offered confirmation. It has been argued that Mourinho would not have gone to City anyway, knowing it would end his chances of employment across the road.
this is a decent article regarding Mourinho's options
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2277745/Martin-Samuel-Jose-Mourinho-destructive-Manchester-United-City.html
the bit about City.......
Yet there is no way in for him at City, even if the capitulation this season spells the end for Roberto Mancini. The Barcelona influence at the club - chief executive Ferran Soriano and director of football Txiki Begiristain - are too settled on treating Mourinho as the enemy.
Their reports to Sheik Mansour will paint him as a negative, disruptive individual, harmful to the good name of the club. And that name is important.
It is why Abu Dhabi's royal family bought Emirates Marketing Project in the first place. Even without the disquiet at executive level, Mourinho was going to be a hard sell. The region and its rulers are now associated worldwide with English football and are happy with the link.
City have largely been successful, and even when they haven't, Mancini's odd spat with Carlos Tevez or a referee has not adversely affected their reputation.
Abu Dhabi's representatives are content for their football club to be the ice-breaker in rooms of the great and good.
'How is the team going?' a well-briefed president will ask, and the conversation eases from there to more serious matters of state.
There would not be such comfort around a fresh episode of touchline eyepoking, as occurred against Barcelona in 2011. 'How's that manager of yours, half-blinded anyone lately?' does not have the same ring to it.
City want to be seen to be successful, but they also want to be seen behaving in the correct manner. The representative who made gauche claims about buying Cristiano Ronaldo on the day of the Abu Dhabi takeover has not been heard from since.
City have spent big and make no apologies for it, but the club has no debt, is embarking on a project that will benefit the local community and does not sack two managers each year.
The owners are intent on projecting the right image and were wary of Mourinho's dark reputation long before his adversaries, late of Barcelona, offered confirmation. It has been argued that Mourinho would not have gone to City anyway, knowing it would end his chances of employment across the road.
jurgen lineker
Radek Cerny
Re: Gareth Bale
Cannot see Utd being too eager to appoint Mourinho. Utd are a reputable club that i'm sure would not want their name dragged through the dirt like Mourinho has done with all his previous clubs.
Regarding Mancini, whilst i wouldn't rule out him being kicked out of City next season, there is every chance he'll still be there for at least another season. When it comes to City, i think the biggest mistake people make is comparing them to Chelsea and how they have been ruthless with any manager that has not had immediate success. As much as i cannot stand what City are about and what they stand for, you cannot deny that their owners have been extremely loyal to Mancini through a number of failures which include failing to qualify for Champions League a couple of seasons back and two abysmal group stage failures.
Cannot see Utd being too eager to appoint Mourinho. Utd are a reputable club that i'm sure would not want their name dragged through the dirt like Mourinho has done with all his previous clubs.
Regarding Mancini, whilst i wouldn't rule out him being kicked out of City next season, there is every chance he'll still be there for at least another season. When it comes to City, i think the biggest mistake people make is comparing them to Chelsea and how they have been ruthless with any manager that has not had immediate success. As much as i cannot stand what City are about and what they stand for, you cannot deny that their owners have been extremely loyal to Mancini through a number of failures which include failing to qualify for Champions League a couple of seasons back and two abysmal group stage failures.
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indianspur
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Re: Gareth Bale
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger feels it is too early to compare Tottenham midfielder Gareth Bale with the best in the world, but admits the Welshman has come a very long way since the raw teenager he scouted at Southampton.
Bale, 23, netted a stunning pair of free-kicks to help Spurs beat Lyon 2-1 in the Europa League at White Hart Lane last night.
The Wales winger has now scored seven goals in his last five matches for club and country, again leading to comparisons with Real Madrid star Cristiano Ronaldo and Barcelona's Lionel Messi.
Bale was on Arsenal's radar before he joined Tottenham in 2005, with Wenger deciding instead to buy a then 16-year-old Theo Walcott.
Wenger maintains he has no regrets over that decision, but accepts Bale has developed into a player of exceptional quality.
The Arsenal manager said: 'Bale has the potential to develop and become the players that you compare him to.
'However, Messi has won two or three Champions League, a few championships, scored 95 goals in a year, so let's not go too quick.
'You are always very quick here, but let's slow down a little bit.'
Wenger stands by the decisions he made over the Southampton academy duo.
'It was Walcott and Bale, and we were at some stage on (about) taking the two if possible, but we could get Walcott and I am very happy we got him,' Wenger said.
'If I tell you the number of players we did not sign who we should have signed, you would be amazed, but it is the same for every single club, you miss players.'
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger feels it is too early to compare Tottenham midfielder Gareth Bale with the best in the world, but admits the Welshman has come a very long way since the raw teenager he scouted at Southampton.
Bale, 23, netted a stunning pair of free-kicks to help Spurs beat Lyon 2-1 in the Europa League at White Hart Lane last night.
The Wales winger has now scored seven goals in his last five matches for club and country, again leading to comparisons with Real Madrid star Cristiano Ronaldo and Barcelona's Lionel Messi.
Bale was on Arsenal's radar before he joined Tottenham in 2005, with Wenger deciding instead to buy a then 16-year-old Theo Walcott.
Wenger maintains he has no regrets over that decision, but accepts Bale has developed into a player of exceptional quality.
The Arsenal manager said: 'Bale has the potential to develop and become the players that you compare him to.
'However, Messi has won two or three Champions League, a few championships, scored 95 goals in a year, so let's not go too quick.
'You are always very quick here, but let's slow down a little bit.'
Wenger stands by the decisions he made over the Southampton academy duo.
'It was Walcott and Bale, and we were at some stage on (about) taking the two if possible, but we could get Walcott and I am very happy we got him,' Wenger said.
'If I tell you the number of players we did not sign who we should have signed, you would be amazed, but it is the same for every single club, you miss players.'
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indianspur
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Re: Gareth Bale
LOST IN MID-TABLE
Without Bale's goals in the Barclays Premier League, Spurs would be 10th, which shows how much they rely on him.
In all competitions, he has scored 21 goals, but trails behind Ronaldo's 34. He still has some catching up to do.
Madrid would only drop one place without Ronaldo's goals, despite his haul.
LOST IN MID-TABLE
Without Bale's goals in the Barclays Premier League, Spurs would be 10th, which shows how much they rely on him.
In all competitions, he has scored 21 goals, but trails behind Ronaldo's 34. He still has some catching up to do.
Madrid would only drop one place without Ronaldo's goals, despite his haul.
THFC6061
Paul Robinson
Re: Gareth Bale
Yes, because if Gareth Bale wasn't playing Spurs would only be fielding 10 men for every game.
Yes, because if Gareth Bale wasn't playing Spurs would only be fielding 10 men for every game.
Boonie
Ramon Vega
Re: Gareth Bale
And, as much as it hurts, they should have their way. Who is to tell someone who they should work for anyway?
Still I dont want to lose him!
And, as much as it hurts, they should have their way. Who is to tell someone who they should work for anyway?
Still I dont want to lose him!
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indianspur
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Re: Gareth Bale
Anything you can do I can do too... how Bale turned into the new Ronaldo with the full range of free kicks, speed and danger
By SIMON CASS
Much more of this and Jose Mourinho will surely be next to heap praise on Spurs superstar Gareth Bale.
After all, Harry Redknapp, Alan Pardew and now Andre-Villas Boas have all waxed lyrical about the Welsh wizard and his claims to be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo and Leo Messi.
Irrespective of whether ‘The Special One’ stays at Real Madrid, the powers that be at the Bernabeu will surely be making a play for 23-year-old Bale come the summer as with each match winning performance the similarities with Ronaldo, 28, become more difficult to ignore.
In the dying moments of Real’s Champions League encounter with Manchester United, Ronaldo, having already get his side back on terms with a superb header, lined up a 40-yard free-kick.
Most would have stuck in the mixer, but not Ronaldo. The now customary top-spin effort was dispatched with venomous power, the ball narrowly whizzing over the bar and scraping the top netting to leave Real fans agonising over how close their hero had come to once again single-handedly earning them a vital win.
Fast forward 24-hours and there was no such agony at White Hart Lane – just ask Steffen Freund who sparked ugly clashes between the benches of Spurs and Lyon with his ecstatic celebration of Bale’s wonderful late winner.
The similarities in style between Ronaldo and Bale when it comes to dead-ball striking are there for all to see. From the look of intense concentration etched up their faces to the carefully measured retreat and purposeful run-up, the similarities are remarkable.
The same applies to the duo’s ability to lash the ball with such force and yet generate such dip to leave goalkeepers with no chance – an ability which would leave physicist Brian Cox struggling to come up with a formula to explain it.
Bale’s Europa League brace bordered on a case of anything you can do I can do better with regard to Ronaldo.
And there is little argument that his contribution to the Tottenham case is every bit as vital, if not more so, than that of Ronaldo to Real.
Bale has now scored all six of Tottenham’s goals in their last their last four games, for Ronaldo it seven of Real’s 10 goals in their previous four outings.
And while Bale is lagging well behind Ronaldo when it comes to total goals for club and country so far this season, 21 compared to 34, there is certainly an argument to be made that his contribution to Spurs is just as vital as that of his illustrious counterpart to Real.
Tottenham manager Villas-Boas was somewhat cryptic when ask to compare Bale with Ronaldo.
‘He is going through a great individual moment,’ said the Spurs boss. "I think you have to recognise that. He is scoring lots of goals for the team and I think this is his best goalscoring season for Tottenham.
‘You can see the player is enjoying his football and getting a buzz out of it. Once things like this happen, individual players keep their motivation high and they are able to help the team reach their objectives.’
Unfortunately for Spurs, Bale’s ultimate objective may well be to play for a side of the size of Real next season.
And while there seems every prospect of Bale and Ronaldo continuing their tit-for-tat brilliance for the remainder of the campaign, the chance to draw a real comparison between the pair when they are playing in the same side may not be too far away.
Anything you can do I can do too... how Bale turned into the new Ronaldo with the full range of free kicks, speed and danger
By SIMON CASS
Much more of this and Jose Mourinho will surely be next to heap praise on Spurs superstar Gareth Bale.
After all, Harry Redknapp, Alan Pardew and now Andre-Villas Boas have all waxed lyrical about the Welsh wizard and his claims to be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo and Leo Messi.
Irrespective of whether ‘The Special One’ stays at Real Madrid, the powers that be at the Bernabeu will surely be making a play for 23-year-old Bale come the summer as with each match winning performance the similarities with Ronaldo, 28, become more difficult to ignore.
In the dying moments of Real’s Champions League encounter with Manchester United, Ronaldo, having already get his side back on terms with a superb header, lined up a 40-yard free-kick.
Most would have stuck in the mixer, but not Ronaldo. The now customary top-spin effort was dispatched with venomous power, the ball narrowly whizzing over the bar and scraping the top netting to leave Real fans agonising over how close their hero had come to once again single-handedly earning them a vital win.
Fast forward 24-hours and there was no such agony at White Hart Lane – just ask Steffen Freund who sparked ugly clashes between the benches of Spurs and Lyon with his ecstatic celebration of Bale’s wonderful late winner.
The similarities in style between Ronaldo and Bale when it comes to dead-ball striking are there for all to see. From the look of intense concentration etched up their faces to the carefully measured retreat and purposeful run-up, the similarities are remarkable.
The same applies to the duo’s ability to lash the ball with such force and yet generate such dip to leave goalkeepers with no chance – an ability which would leave physicist Brian Cox struggling to come up with a formula to explain it.
Bale’s Europa League brace bordered on a case of anything you can do I can do better with regard to Ronaldo.
And there is little argument that his contribution to the Tottenham case is every bit as vital, if not more so, than that of Ronaldo to Real.
Bale has now scored all six of Tottenham’s goals in their last their last four games, for Ronaldo it seven of Real’s 10 goals in their previous four outings.
And while Bale is lagging well behind Ronaldo when it comes to total goals for club and country so far this season, 21 compared to 34, there is certainly an argument to be made that his contribution to Spurs is just as vital as that of his illustrious counterpart to Real.
Tottenham manager Villas-Boas was somewhat cryptic when ask to compare Bale with Ronaldo.
‘He is going through a great individual moment,’ said the Spurs boss. "I think you have to recognise that. He is scoring lots of goals for the team and I think this is his best goalscoring season for Tottenham.
‘You can see the player is enjoying his football and getting a buzz out of it. Once things like this happen, individual players keep their motivation high and they are able to help the team reach their objectives.’
Unfortunately for Spurs, Bale’s ultimate objective may well be to play for a side of the size of Real next season.
And while there seems every prospect of Bale and Ronaldo continuing their tit-for-tat brilliance for the remainder of the campaign, the chance to draw a real comparison between the pair when they are playing in the same side may not be too far away.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Re: Gareth Bale
English is my second language so a dictionary would do
Surely a thesaurus is what you'd be looking for
English is my second language so a dictionary would do
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Re: Gareth Bale
Wonder where Utd or Liverpool would be without goals from RVP and Suarez!
Wonder where Utd or Liverpool would be without goals from RVP and Suarez!
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: Gareth Bale
I agree - its ridiculous. However I will point out that many on here suggested that Harry last year wasnt that good and we werent that good a team but we had to rely on moments of brilliance rather than actually being a team. One could argue the same case this season - I wont simply because I thought it was a ludicrous suggestion.
I wont say we are a one man team as I very much doubt Bale could beat 11 players on his own however we are heavily reliant on him at the moment and this is, in my view, because of the poor options up front which NEEDS to be resolved this summer.
I agree - its ridiculous. However I will point out that many on here suggested that Harry last year wasnt that good and we werent that good a team but we had to rely on moments of brilliance rather than actually being a team. One could argue the same case this season - I wont simply because I thought it was a ludicrous suggestion.
I wont say we are a one man team as I very much doubt Bale could beat 11 players on his own however we are heavily reliant on him at the moment and this is, in my view, because of the poor options up front which NEEDS to be resolved this summer.
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Re: Gareth Bale
And we all know that La Liga is waaaaay more competitive than the Premier league.
And we all know that La Liga is waaaaay more competitive than the Premier league.
indospurs
Young-Pyo Lee
Re: Gareth Bale
Bale has deffo stepped up his game this season, especially in scoring goals. I think what AVB has done different to Arry is not be so open and gung-ho in attack. We are much more compact, and players are tracking back a lot more. Bale has been made to move more and more forward, and central, as the season has gone on.
Bale has deffo stepped up his game this season, especially in scoring goals. I think what AVB has done different to Arry is not be so open and gung-ho in attack. We are much more compact, and players are tracking back a lot more. Bale has been made to move more and more forward, and central, as the season has gone on.
Robbo
Paul Walsh
Re: Gareth Bale
Liverpool would be 14th on 28 points (minus 8 points from Suarez goals)
ManU would be 5th/6th on 42 points (minus 23 points (!) from RVP goals)
Liverpool would be 14th on 28 points (minus 8 points from Suarez goals)
ManU would be 5th/6th on 42 points (minus 23 points (!) from RVP goals)