Emmanuel Adebayor - Officially gone \o/

[SteveAWOL]

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...The cold hard facts are.

Wenger gave up on him
Mancini gave up on him
AVB gave up on him
He plays well in periods, mainly when he has a point to prove or is advantageous to him.

See no stats needed. I won't reply to stat driven drivel from now. :-#

Wenger gave up on him and still hasn't won a trophy since 2005.
Mancini gave up on him and thought that Balotelli was a better option.
AVB gave up on him and is now out of a job for the 2nd time in 3 years.

 

[Mumorn]

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People look back at Ade under AVB and will blame AVB (now that he has been sacked and is looking a bit silly not playing Ade), but lets remain a little calm, WE all abused Adebayor last year, he was dog****. I refuse to believe AVB couldn't simply get the best out of him. None of us were saying this last year when we had Bale and was on route to getting our best ever points total. We all simply pointed and laughed and said haha, same old Adebayor, once he has played for his contract, he doesn't give a ****

 

[braineclipse]

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People look back at Ade under AVB and will blame AVB (now that he has been sacked and is looking a bit silly not playing Ade), but lets remain a little calm, WE all abused Adebayor last year, he was dog****. I refuse to believe AVB couldn't simply get the best out of him. None of us were saying this last year when we had Bale and was on route to getting our best ever points total. We all simply pointed and laughed and said haha, same old Adebayor, once he has played for his contract, he doesn't give a ****

Not actually true, I remember quite a few debates (in this very thread?) on this topic with myself and others defending Ade.

We all know Ade is inconsistent, as is Defoe, as is many strikers including Soldado it seems. Defoe had a dreary 2013 and didn't turn it around, Ade turned his poor year around., helped us get that record point total and get very close to CL qualification. It was a positive to build on, he showed effort and will (not a contract year, was it?) and something AVB could have used as a positive to help the team. He didn't.

His decision, one he felt he had to make apparently, one amongst many that probably ended up costing him his job.

Up to the next manager what happens in the summer, but for now I'm absolutely delighted we have Ade in our squad, without him and his resurgence I think 4th would look beyond hope at this point.

 

[Superhudd]

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Righty-o. I pointed out that I thought it was strange you would give so much credit to Sky pundits when they agreed with you whilst dismissing so much of what they usually do. I still find that somewhat dishonest. Either Carragher and Neville deserve to be listened to or not, cherry picking stuff you agree with and dismissing stuff you disagree with sounds a lot like what you're accusing "the stat phalanx" of.

Wenger didn't give up on him. He lost him to a bigger/richer team, just like he lost Fabregas, Nasri, Clichy and van Persie.

Mancini could spend ridiculous money and keep buying potential top class strikers, in the end he found better players than Ade in Dzeko and Aguero. Ade didn't want to be a squad player. Big whoop.

AVB gave up on him for non-sporting reasons. Reasons that based on what's been reported look strange to me, and illustrative of the kind of clashes that caused a lot of problems for AVB and eventually was part of what cost him his job.

I'll disagree thankyou, Wenger could have kept Adebayor, but was priced out of it with his contract demands.. Wenger therefore gave up on him because of his greed. Nasri and Clichy also left for similar reasons. Van Persie was sick of not winning things, which is understandable.. whilst Fabregas wanted to go home. Money was not there reasoning.

Taken from the media

Emmanuel Adebayor has interrupted Emirates Marketing Project's preparations for Wembley by claiming he was forced to sit on the sidelines and watch lesser players take his place before he was sent out on loan to Real Madrid.
The Togo striker insisted that City could be aiming for even greater prizes than the FA Cup if he was in the team and also lifted the lid on his bust-up with Roberto Mancini after the Manchester derby in November, accusing the City boss of showing him no respect

Always everyone else's fault.. never mine!! Sound familiar that piece to recent situation. lol

Adebayor is a ticking bomb unless he is #1. He is not a team player. What do people call them.. I dislike using the term.. but team cancer comes to mind.

 

[Superhudd]

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Up to the next manager what happens in the summer, but for now I'm absolutely delighted we have Ade in our squad, without him and his resurgence I think 4th would look beyond hope at this point.

Which is all thanks to him trying to save face and make others look the bad person. Which doesn't fool me. I see a classic case of 'told you so' coming :lol:

If I was the next manager he would be on his way out as I arrived, I would not risk what has happened before happening again.

 

[braineclipse]

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I'll disagree thankyou, Wenger could have kept Adebayor, but was priced out of it with his contract demands.. Wenger therefore gave up on him because of his greed. Nasri and Clichy also left for similar reasons. Van Persie was sick of not winning things, which is understandable.. whilst Fabregas wanted to go home. Money was not there reasoning.

Taken from the media

Emmanuel Adebayor has interrupted Emirates Marketing Project's preparations for Wembley by claiming he was forced to sit on the sidelines and watch lesser players take his place before he was sent out on loan to Real Madrid.
The Togo striker insisted that City could be aiming for even greater prizes than the FA Cup if he was in the team and also lifted the lid on his bust-up with Roberto Mancini after the Manchester derby in November, accusing the City boss of showing him no respect

Always everyone else's fault.. never mine!! Sound familiar that piece to recent situation. lol

Adebayor is a ticking bomb unless he is #1. He is not a team player. What do people call them.. I dislike using the term.. but team cancer comes to mind.

You're really defending that Wenger losing Adebayor to a richer club that was willing to give him a bigger contract is well described as Wenger "giving up on Adebayor"?

This is my problem with how people are dealing with Adebayor. There's hardly a situation or interaction involving Adebayor that those strongly opposing Adebayor won't find a way to twist or turn into putting Ade in a bad light.

At this point I would only be a little surprised if someone told me they thought his salute celebrations were a sign of his militancy and thus a reason to dislike him. Or how his brand of headphones worn on match day was a sign of some serious character flaw.

Which is all thanks to him trying to save face and make others look the bad person. Which doesn't fool me. I see a classic case of 'told you so' coming :lol:

If I was the next manager he would be on his way out as I arrived, I would not risk what has happened before happening again.

As I said in the very post you posted I agree that in the summer it will be up to the manager to make a decision and Ade has a history including some inconsistency so I could see it go either way. What's been seen very clearly with Defoe's lone league goal in 2013 (wasn't it a lone league goal?) and Soldado's continued goal drought in the league is that there's a risk with every striker, at least every striker we can reasonably get. Goals per minute in another thread shows that Ade has scored more PL goals per minute than Defoe, which is the risk our manager will be more willing to go with if it's a decision between Ade and someone more like Defoe?

Whoever our manager is come next season, if he feels Ade is the risk more worth accepting I will be supporting both of them.

Right now I don't care what motivates Ade though, no more than I care that Sandro might be motivated by the upcoming World Cup or Lloris might be motivated by looking good for Barca scouts or Bentaleb wants to look good to get a better contract come the summer. Just like I'm sure Chelsea fans didn't care that Terry and Lampard might have been motivated by wanting to not look the bad guy after AVB was sacked. Ade wants to prove AVB wrong, go right the **** ahead I say, feed from it.

I care about players performing for Spurs, when they are good for them and for us.

 

[Superhudd]

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About that Ade v Defoe thing.. how is it a comparison to bring to the table when one does not rate Defoe at all, and I never have really. I cannot believe he has played for us for so long. I guess he is the consummate team player, realising team comes before his own selfishness and is happy playing the second or third wheel, that is why all in all I have the upmost respect for him as a person and a player.

I can understand your feelings that you want to win at all costs.. afterall that's what other teams do. I liked the recent dropping of Giroud myself.. for his recent actions with a $lag. I guess that is something we will differ on.

What do you think the salute means out of interest.

 

[braineclipse]

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About that Ade v Defoe thing.. how is it a comparison to bring to the table when one does not rate Defoe at all, and I never have really. I cannot believe he has played for us for so long. I guess he is the consummate team player, realising team comes before his own selfishness and is happy playing the second or third wheel, that is why all in all I have the upmost respect for him as a person and a player.

I can understand your feelings that you want to win at all costs.. afterall that's what other teams do. I liked the recent dropping of Giroud myself.. for his recent actions with a $lag. I guess that is something we will differ on.

What do you think the salute means out of interest.

I can agree that Defoe isn't quite up there, but he's obviously a good PL level striker. Not as good as Ade, my point was more about the streaky nature of form for these guys. I could have mentioned Rooney instead I suppose, but he's as obviously better than Ade as Defoe is behind.

Not at all cost, but at most costs. That's what competition is, everyone draws their line in the sand for what they won't do. But everyone is looking for an edge and we should keep doing that, at most costs. Giroud was back in the team yesterday, Ade was dropped permanently by AVB (apart from his childish stunt away to City). I have no problems with managers disciplining players for stepping out of line, but you have to balance that with letting people be people.

I have no idea what the salute means, just like I had no idea what his weird dance with Bale meant. Probably it's just a thing he did and kept doing because it pleases him.

 

[Spursalot]

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Man of the match for me today. Was our best performer in the first half, and his take down and finish for the second goal was just sublime.

I'm very much a fan of how he chases the ball down like a lunatic when we don't have it.

 

[mjc23]

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I love him

 

[clevelandspur]

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I love him

****ing legend unplayable at the moment

 

[DTA]

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I love him

When playing like this, he is one of the best in the league.... World class....I don't care Avb was wrong, if necessary he should have got on his knees and deep t******* this guy, anything to get him in this form.

 

[Cochise]

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He was immense in the second half, as was every player after we conceded the goal. Shame we started so slowly though

 

[thfcsteff]

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He was good under Harry, he's good under Sherwood. So what you need to conclude is whether the down year under AVB was due to Ade not giving a toss or AVB being unable to get the best out of him. Given his minutes per goal record under AVB sticks out like a sore thumb compared to all the other managers he's worked under, I'd lean more towards the latter. I'm not sure what the point you're arguing actually is, having Adebayor in the team is highly beneficial to us, without him we would be struggling.

I spent last season getting laughed at for pointing out that AVB used Ade as part of a mechanism designed to service Bale.When he flipped that towards the end of the season (Chelski) he scored a few. It was tactical and a lack of trust/inexperience in handling players like Ade.

 

[thfcsteff]

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People look back at Ade under AVB and will blame AVB (now that he has been sacked and is looking a bit silly not playing Ade), but lets remain a little calm, WE all abused Adebayor last year, he was dog****. I refuse to believe AVB couldn't simply get the best out of him. None of us were saying this last year when we had Bale and was on route to getting our best ever points total. We all simply pointed and laughed and said haha, same old Adebayor, once he has played for his contract, he doesn't give a ****

Sorry, not me. I did not ever say that.

 

[Lilywhite]

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Hero tonight, knew once they went down to 10 that he'd bag one or two to take us through.

Still find him very tough to like, which I never thought Id say about a striker banging in the goals for the club I love! But his attitude stinks, no doubt about that, I just hope/pray he can motivate himself to play well for the remainder of this season, if he does I'd like to think we'll comfortably finish 5th and hopefully get to the semis of the Europa.

 

[braineclipse]

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I spent last season getting laughed at for pointing out that AVB used Ade as part of a mechanism designed to service Bale.When he flipped that towards the end of the season (Chelski) he scored a few. It was tactical and a lack of trust/inexperience in handling players like Ade.

Either that or Bale was just a ****ing superstar...

In addition to Ade's worst scoring run since moving to the Premier League AVB also oversaw Defoe's "one goal in the league 2013" and what was probably Soldado's worst scoring half a season since biblical times.

 

[markysimmo]

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[Hully]

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Just love the salute, Ade has become the focal point for the team again since Tim took over, give him enough chances and he'll score a few.
I think I know who Ade wants to be in charge next season.

 

[Luda2013]

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Our most important player and he's one of the best in the prem. the only way to stop him is if the opponents have brutish centrebacks like bassong