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Daniel Levy - Chairman

scaramanga said:
I agree that smaller clubs tend to look as if they're doing it better - but that's the point I'm making. It's easier to do what they need to do (even with fewer resources) than it is to do what we're trying to.
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The further down the table/leagues you go the wider the pool of players there is that can improve you and the closer you are to the top the smaller that pool is and the more competition there is for them.
 
Raziel said:
Getting to best of the rest is a lot easier than establishing yourself as a permanent top 6, top 4 challenger.

United will be back in the top 6, as will we, in 5 years if Brighton is still in the PL it will be a success for them. Leicester won the league and FA cup, how come we aren't asking how well they are run anymore?
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or Leeds, or the Sheffield clubs, or Charlton, Bolton, Reading, Norwich, or anyone else who managed 7 days in the sun
 
So, could the board potentially vote Levy out as CEO (if the majority of shareholders wish), or is it basically Lewis that has the final say either way? Or does Levy's amount of shares somehow secure him the job seeing as few other people out there have as many shares as he has? Let's say the board votes him out (if that's even possible) - who could they potentially bring in? Just any old geezer with a bit of business experience? Wouldn't we risk just another Levy who'd spend even less than Levy does?

I'm sorry for asking stupid questions, feel free to not answer them. I know nothing about big business apart from what I've learned from watching Succession, haha, so in other words, I'm green.

I just don't really get how people are so staunchly Levy out, especially seeing as FFP is hopefully finally being implemented soon (probably not). Aren't we really run at the brink of what we can afford? Does anyone really know that we have these large reserves of money that we're not using that could have been used on players? Whenever I hear that argument, it seems to me that people are just speculating. I don't know, obviously.

I'm all for having a chairman that just splash cash, as long as it's responsible, but IF FFP finally gets implemented, you'd think we would be better off than most.
 
billyiddo said:
The further down the table/leagues you go the wider the pool of players there is that can improve you and the closer you are to the top the smaller that pool is and the more competition there is for them.
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And managers.

There's a tiny proportion of managers that can win the big stuff. It's hardly surprising that it's not easy to find one.
 
Finney Is Back said:
No. We sacked Redknapp because Levy had a hissy fit because the manager had the audacity to want a new contract after he didn't get the England gig.

We sacked Pochettino because it was cheaper to hire Mourinho who said we didn't need a squad rebuild that keep Pochettino who was demanding one.
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Redknapp was bending over for the England team manager job [ BEHIND THE CLUBS BACK] when he never had a chance of getting it, he was sacked because while under contract here he was making eyes at the FA. simple as that.
 
Baleforce said:
that was long gone before ENIC arrived, didn't old Bill say that in the 70's?

It was Scholar that floated us
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And nearly bankrupted us, i know most fans hated Sugar but without him we would probably have ended up in the ownership of Maxwell [ the crook] and IF that had happened the talk was he wanted to merge us with Derby because he was in for them as well.

Not joking about any of that.
 
Jurgen the German said:
On the flip side, I doubt many fans of other clubs wish they could do things like we do.
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We've finished outside the top 6 of the world's top football competition twice in the last 15 seasons.

I suspect that almost the entirety of the football pyramid in just about every country that plays football would gladly swap with us.
 
Raziel said:
The business of business is making money, the product is irrelevant.

You think Bohley at Chelsea or Saudi investment fund bought Saudi Sportswashing Machine because they care about football?

Don't mistake my statement as "I like it that way", it is more a reality check that someone actually thinks that "the board" will be held accountable when the business continues to work.
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I don't see it any differently it's why I've accepted we will never win anything. The owners do not give a fudge.
 
Raziel said:
Getting to best of the rest is a lot easier than establishing yourself as a permanent top 6, top 4 challenger.

United will be back in the top 6, as will we, in 5 years if Brighton is still in the PL it will be a success for them. Leicester won the league and FA cup, how come we aren't asking how well they are run anymore?
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We were there and we lost our bottle. I know you and I disagree, but factually, I am right. Would that gamble have been any worse than the ones we took? No. I don't benefit from hindsight on that. And even if we were committed to NOT taking that gamble, our board did NOT get the timing (or subsequent appointment) right. IF there is even a hint of truth to the Allegri rumours (and I will say I doubt there are) then we are simply not interested in learning any lessons.
 
scaramanga said:
We've finished outside the top 6 of the world's top football competition twice in the last 15 seasons.

I suspect that almost the entirety of the football pyramid in just about every country that plays football would gladly swap with us.
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No one gave a fudge about the top 6 15 years ago. Hell the top 4 only came into existence once the CL expanded so please, talking about the top 6 in the last 15 years is disengerous.
 
thfcsteff said:
...which is why whenever we had the chance (as a top 4 side) to make such moves we needed to. And didn't!
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It means the margin for error is smaller, especially when you are the smaller/less well resourced of those in that position. I'd like to see how we behave once in that position again - my guess is things will be different due to resources and there being a functioning scouting & transfer department in place - neither of which was the case previously.
 
Bishop said:
No one gave a fudge about the top 6 15 years ago. Hell the top 4 only came into existence once the CL expanded so please, talking about the top 6 in the last 15 years is disengerous.
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No, there's always been a big 3 or big 5 clubs that everyone aspires to be within, that is synonymous with success which is synonymous with big money i.e. finishing in the European places and preferably top 5 (CL). We were in the big 5 in the 90s and slipped further and further and further away and are clawing our way back desperately. The Cheats like Cheatski/Leeds/NewCash are/were a massive hinderance to our progress. You know all that though.
 
Bishop said:
No one gave a fudge about the top 6 15 years ago. Hell the top 4 only came into existence once the CL expanded so please, talking about the top 6 in the last 15 years is disengerous.
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I think league football has always revolved around being in Europe in the modern game(winning the league obviously the main aim) - Bill Nich said that without European football that this club was nothing (?) and that quote stretches back to what, the 60s? so not true regarding no one caring about 'top 6/top 4' as it is essentially shorthand for being in European competition.
 
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