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Antonio Conte - officially NOT the coach of THFC

Takes too long to use substitutions, crazy that he sticks with 3 at the back when we need to score.
We either press or we don't, but that half arsed effort today will result in a double digit loss to Emirates Marketing Project
 
mjc23 said:
Takes too long to use substitutions, crazy that he sticks with 3 at the back when we need to score.
We either press or we don't, but that half arsed effort today will result in a double digit loss to Emirates Marketing Project
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Don’t think there was anything half arsed about the second half. The problem is the intent from the start (‘don’t lose’ as opposed to ‘win’ IMO)
 
mjc23 said:
Takes too long to use substitutions, crazy that he sticks with 3 at the back when we need to score.
We either press or we don't, but that half arsed effort today will result in a double digit loss to Emirates Marketing Project
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To be fair, we had little on the bench to make a difference in a game we were losing. Gil was the only real option and he got a decent run at it tonight. Did well too but he is hit and miss. He was diabolical over in Frankfurt.
 
I don’t think anyone can underestimate the impact of Gian Pietro’s death on the club. We don’t know about it, for the proper reasons, but it could definitely be a factor. Especially for Conte. Managers have their own management team, and losing someone that influential has an impact.
 
Conte pulled absolutely no punches with that VAR farce tonight - he asked exactly the questions I have wanted us to ask for bloody ages in the post-match presser.

For a 'top' team, in a big game, does the VAR have the balls to make that decision? Do they *dare* make that decision?

Conte straight up asked that, and questioned the honesty of the refs. Also pointed out how we have been the only team penalized this season by having a pen retaken, while plenty of other keepers and teams have gotten away in similar situations.

One rule for little old Spurs, one rule for the rest. That smug gurning c*nt ref and his second-rate Dutch mate on the VAR out from the bog-standard Eredivisie making these calls had it in for us, and Conte made it clear.

He also finished with a plea to the club - back him up when UEFA comes calling with their attempt to bully us into silence. Don't lie down and take it - fight back.

I dearly, dearly hope we do, because it has been too long that we have kept quiet about this stuff. Poch dared to point out how bloody biased a ref was after a game once, just once, and then the FA came down on him and the club left him out to dry.

No. More.

You want a fighting mentality? It starts with this. Everyone at the club needs to use this as a motivator.

UEFA did not want us to win that game, and made sure of it with the VAR. Now, what are you going to do? Are you going to lie there and take it, or are you going to fight to prove that they can't do sh*t?

Back Conte on this, Levy. When UEFA come with their disciplinary flimflam, and they will, tell them to fudge off.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Conte pulled absolutely no punches with that VAR farce tonight - he asked exactly the questions I have wanted us to ask for bloody ages in the post-match presser.

For a 'top' team, in a big game, does the VAR have the balls to make that decision? Do they *dare* make that decision?

Conte straight up asked that, and questioned the honesty of the refs. Also pointed out how we have been the only team penalized this season by having a pen retaken, while plenty of other keepers and teams have gotten away in similar situations.

One rule for little old Spurs, one rule for the rest. That smug gurning c*nt ref and his second-rate Dutch mate on the VAR out from the bog-standard Eredivisie making these calls had it in for us, and Conte made it clear.

He also finished with a plea to the club - back him up when UEFA comes calling with their attempt to bully us into silence. Don't lie down and take it - fight back.

I dearly, dearly hope we do, because it has been too long that we have kept quiet about this stuff. Poch dared to point out how bloody biased a ref was after a game once, just once, and then the FA came down on him and the club left him out to dry.

No. More.

You want a fighting mentality? It starts with this. Everyone at the club needs to use this as a motivator.

UEFA did not want us to win that game, and made sure of it with the VAR. Now, what are you going to do? Are you going to lie there and take it, or are you going to fight to prove that they can't do sh*t?

Back Conte on this, Levy. When UEFA come with their disciplinary flimflam, and they will, tell them to fudge off.
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Yep there's a conspiracy against little old spurs. Uefa will do whatever they can to make sure we don't get out of the group stage cause they fear we will destroy the world. The prem are in on it too. All the refs and var. We are the greatest victims of all time.

Or sometimes decisions go against us. Wtf we going to fight against? It was offside.
 
Lilbaz said:
Yep there's a conspiracy against little old spurs. Uefa will do whatever they can to make sure we don't get out of the group stage cause they fear we will destroy the world. The prem are in on it too. All the refs and var. We are the greatest victims of all time.

Or sometimes decisions go against us. Wtf we going to fight against? It was offside.
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It wasn’t as the defection off the defender was clearly intentional which means it’s another phase of play
 
Lilbaz said:
Yep there's a conspiracy against little old spurs. Uefa will do whatever they can to make sure we don't get out of the group stage cause they fear we will destroy the world. The prem are in on it too. All the refs and var. We are the greatest victims of all time.

Or sometimes decisions go against us. Wtf we going to fight against? It was offside.
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There was no way they could have known he was - no way. Look at the lines those chuckling inbreds took four minutes to draw, realise Emerson is up in the air and there is zero reference point for their dotted line to determine if it's accurate since he's in a 3D space and they are drawing 2D lines, look at the fact that they drew the line after the ball had left his head, and marvel at how badly we were robbed.

Then realise that the deflection may have been intentional to begin with and it looks even worse that they spent four minutes drawing a line they wanted to draw to disallow it.

These refs don't make that call at Anfield. Or the Camp Nou. Or the Bernabeu, or the Allianz.

They make it at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium because little old Tottenham won't dump a metric pile of brick on their heads in their local newspapers the next day. Not so if they make that kind of bent call against the big boys - their local Dutch paper will have their names and pictures in big bold print with the title 'bent?' on top of it, because that kind of call resonates across European football.

With Spurs, they just laugh it off and go back to being brick the next day, and UEFA backs them up on it.

That's what is at play here. As I've said before, we need to make refs dread reffing our games - we need to make them feel uncomfortable, unwelcome, in fear at getting a single thing wrong.

That we don't is what allows the scenes of today - the brick-eating grin on the face of the ref as he and his bent mate fudged us over.
 
DubaiSpur said:
There was no way they could have known he was - no way. Look at the lines those chuckling inbreds took four minutes to draw, realise Emerson is up in the air and there is zero reference point for their dotted line to determine if it's accurate since he's in a 3D space and they are drawing 2D lines, look at the fact that they drew the line after the ball had left his head, and marvel at how badly we were robbed.

Then realise that the deflection may have been intentional to begin with and it looks even worse that they spent four minutes drawing a line they wanted to draw to disallow it.

These refs don't make that call at Anfield. Or the Camp Nou. Or the Bernabeu, or the Allianz.

They make it at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium because little old Tottenham won't dump a metric pile of brick on their heads in their local newspapers the next day. Not so if they make that kind of bent call against the big boys - their local Dutch paper will have their names and pictures in big bold print with the title 'bent?' on top of it, because that kind of call resonates across European football.

With Spurs, they just laugh it off and go back to being brick the next day, and UEFA backs them up on it.

That's what is at play here.
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If the defender isn’t intentionally trying to block the ball…. He isn’t a footballer
 
I thought at one point tonight, it was going to turn toxic. At one point in the first half, when we went backwards, there was booing. I was surprised. I've come to expect it at half time for poor performances but during the game...

It can be a tough watch at the moment. And there is a lot of going back because we're very ponderous going forward and the opposition have reset so we have little option but to recycle the ball. But I really believe this last week is just a blip. All managers have them. We need to stick with this fella and back him.
 
DubaiSpur said:
There was no way they could have known he was - no way. Look at the lines those chuckling inbreds took four minutes to draw, realise Emerson is up in the air and there is zero reference point for their dotted line to determine if it's accurate since he's in a 3D space and they are drawing 2D lines, look at the fact that they drew the line after the ball had left his head, and marvel at how badly we were robbed.

Then realise that the deflection may have been intentional to begin with and it looks even worse that they spent four minutes drawing a line they wanted to draw to disallow it.

These refs don't make that call at Anfield. Or the Camp Nou. Or the Bernabeu, or the Allianz.

They make it at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium because little old Tottenham won't dump a metric pile of brick on their heads in their local newspapers the next day. Not so if they make that kind of bent call against the big boys - their local Dutch paper will have their names and pictures in big bold print with the title 'bent?' on top of it, because that kind of call resonates across European football.

With Spurs, they just laugh it off and go back to being brick the next day, and UEFA backs them up on it.

That's what is at play here. As I've said before, we need to make refs dread reffing our games - we need to make them feel uncomfortable, unwelcome, in fear at getting a single thing wrong.

That we don't is what allows the scenes of today - the brick-eating grin on the face of the ref as he and his bent mate fudged us over.
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The line is drawn by a computer. Not a human being.
 
Lilbaz said:
The line is drawn by a computer. Not a human being.
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Not in this game. Humans drew it.

UEFA trialled some fancy-schmancy automated offside nonsense at the start of the season, but it was Danny Makkelie's henchman drawing these lines for some bizarre reason - part of why it took so long. He was looking for ways to draw it so he could disallow it.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Not in this game. Humans drew it.

UEFA trialled some fancy-schmancy automated offside nonsense at the start of the season, but it was Danny Makkelie's henchman drawing these lines for some bizarre reason - part of why it took so long. He was looking for ways to draw it so he could disallow it.
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I heard it was the fancy automated nonsence they are going to use for the world cup. If you've heard different fair enough.
 
Lilbaz said:
I heard it was the fancy automated nonsence they are going to use for the world cup. If you've heard different fair enough.
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You're right in that that was what was *supposed* to be used, but they were saying in the BT Sport studio after that the lines were manually drawn, and it baffles me why that is.
 
Looks like he’s put it up to Levy and the club again over the VAR decision and pretty much implored them to complain about it. I’d say this stuff drives Levy demented coz he usually likes things dealt with in house.

Conte is probably right though. Be a pain in the ass to UEFA and they’ll be less likely to cross you. He’s obviously speaking from experience judging by the clubs he’s worked at.
 
90291Spur said:
I don’t think anyone can underestimate the impact of Gian Pietro’s death on the club. We don’t know about it, for the proper reasons, but it could definitely be a factor. Especially for Conte. Managers have their own management team, and losing someone that influential has an impact.
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Not saying the loss wouldnt of impacted him and the team at all, of course it has. But we were poor before he sadly passed away and Contes odd selections and tactics existed before then so that excuse isn’t valid….
 
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