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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 74 42.5%
  • Out

    Votes: 100 57.5%

  • Total voters
    174
I don’t give a fudge mate. I don’t like it. I fudging I hate that I’m associated with people who think it’s ok simply because I’m a Spurs fan.

But as Deano said, it would be exactly the same if you supported Real Madrid or Bristol Rovers or any other team on the planet. I just resent this attitude that people have that Spurs fans are all entitled and spoilt and just because they voice their disapproval at the ownership after 20+ years in charge like we should all be grateful even when they do a poor job of running the club from a football standpoint.
 
But as Deano said, it would be exactly the same if you supported Real Madrid or Bristol Rovers or any other team on the planet. I just resent this attitude that people have that Spurs fans are all entitled and spoilt and just because they voice their disapproval at the ownership after 20+ years in charge like we should all be grateful even when they do a poor job of running the club from a football standpoint.

And I will go further about the manager and say that had we been 5th or 6th and lost three in a row and fans were getting jumpy, ok, call it OTT, call it "fans are not built for change" but lets not pretend that Ange is anything less than a car crash now........we can see that, well most can. What are we suppose to do, stay quiet because some might wanna label it all?

I find that odd
 
He's got a press conference this morning.

Could be interesting....
He'll probably just lie again.

His explanation doesn't make sense on several fronts:

1. In his almost 2 years here I can't ever remember him geeing up the fans. If anything, he's always been the complete opposite on the sideline.
2. To gee up the fans, managers and players usually fist pump or something. I don't think I can remember anyone doing it with a cupped ear.
3. His wave to the fans also suggests it was very much a "hey, you lot, over here. I was right, you were wrong".

That he didn't go to the fans at full time also indicates there was a problem. At least Maddison, knowing he'd take a lot of brick, went across because he knows this is part of the game and you have to properly acknowledge fans.

He's gone down a bit in my estimation as a man for what it's worth.
 
He'll probably just lie again.

His explanation doesn't make sense on several fronts:

1. In his almost 2 years here I can't ever remember him geeing up the fans. If anything, he's always been the complete opposite on the sideline.
2. To gee up the fans, managers and players usually fist pump or something. I don't think I can remember anyone doing it with a cupped ear.
3. His wave to the fans also suggests it was very much a "hey, you lot, over here. I was right, you were wrong".

That he didn't go to the fans at full time also indicates there was a problem. At least Maddison, knowing he'd take a lot of brick, went across because he knows this is part of the game and you have to properly acknowledge fans.

He's gone down a bit in my estimation as a man for what it's worth.
Wasn't anything different to how he's been in the past though Deano. Reckon someone in the club has had a word with him not to approach fans. Mostly for his own safety and that of stewards and players.
 
I think the young players show leadership
Kulu I agree and vicario too
People will say it’s not important but it was for Chelsea yesterday
Unusually for me I saw the pre and post match stuff on Sky, ex Chelsea player (cahil?) said spurs was their biggest game (find that incredible tbh) the whole club are pumped up to beat us, colwill after the game went on about how much it meant to beat spurs, little about how this game was important for CL.
We don't have that, not had for so long I can barely remember it.



Agree on all counts. Just a quick point on Maddison’s interview after, I thought it was a very good interview considering the circumstances. He clearly didn’t want to be there and said as much, said the fans probably don’t want to listen either but he didn’t hide away.
He clearly didn’t want to be on the pitch either.

I'm far from being anti ange, signing maddison was a bit of a red flag for me, making him part of the leadership group a big red flag, making the leadership group son, Romero and Maddison was a huge red flag.
 
He'll probably just lie again.

His explanation doesn't make sense on several fronts:

1. In his almost 2 years here I can't ever remember him geeing up the fans. If anything, he's always been the complete opposite on the sideline.
2. To gee up the fans, managers and players usually fist pump or something. I don't think I can remember anyone doing it with a cupped ear.
3. His wave to the fans also suggests it was very much a "hey, you lot, over here. I was right, you were wrong".

That he didn't go to the fans at full time also indicates there was a problem. At least Maddison, knowing he'd take a lot of brick, went across because he knows this is part of the game and you have to properly acknowledge fans.

He's gone down a bit in my estimation as a man for what it's worth.
TBF to him
The video shows him cupping his ear and then doing the old rally cry arm
But…. His interview does not tell that story
 
Unusually for me I saw the pre and post match stuff on Sky, ex Chelsea player (cahil?) said spurs was their biggest game (find that incredible tbh) the whole club are pumped up to beat us, colwill after the game went on about how much it meant to beat spurs, little about how this game was important for CL.
We don't have that, not had for so long I can barely remember it.




He clearly didn’t want to be on the pitch either.

I'm far from being anti ange, signing maddison was a bit of a red flag for me, making him part of the leadership group a big red flag, making the leadership group son, Romero and Maddison was a huge red flag.
Their players know it
Their leaders tell every player
Ours cuddles people
 
Now you're willfully misrepresenting what I'm saying.

Your exact words were:

"Fans like the ones singing and you who excuse it are not who I wanted to be associated with."

If you don't want to be associated with fans like the ones singing last night or people like me then that would suggest you don't want to be associated with Tottenham Hotspur because by supporting the club you're associated with us. To take the point a step further, every club has fans like that so you'll struggle to find any club who wouldn't have fans reacting the same way in the same situation. That's football. Has been for as long as I've been following it.

And I'd just like to clarify, as a fan, I don't agree with the chanting but I accept it's part and parcel of professional football. I expect players and managers to deal with it better.

So you think I’m the only Spurs fan who doesn’t like that singing?
 
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