Ange in or out?

[DubSpur]

I find the whole concept of a leadership group ridiculous, but they're obviously chosen because they're strong figures in the dressing room.

I wish they were strong figures on the pitch.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Gray and Bergvall will be but it's a bit too much to throw them into a leadership group when they are only establishing themselves in the team. There's enough pressure on them already.

Why do we need a group
We just need some clams to hold the players accountable on the pitch

 

[Gutter Boy]

Kulu should def be captain next season (providing Paratici doesnt poach him for Milan)

 

[Legohamster]

I mean.... all this negativity.... Ange did finally end our wait for a cup..... what?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Kulu should def be captain next season (providing Paratici doesnt poach him for Milan)

Milan can’t afford him

 

[elyid]

It happens in all walks of life. Do you remember how schoolkids behave when they sense a teacher isn't up to the job. Or hecklers at bad comedy. It's just human nature if you're being made to suffer on account of someone who is overstretching.

Exactly.

It’s also part of the entertainment in football. Shouting, singing and being a bit silly. It’s also v mild compared to what could be shouted.

What next, Boxers complaining cause the crowd shouted for the other guy to hit them?

 

[Jordinho]

I was looking at some of the most short lived managerial appointments (3 months or less) and I honestly can't say Ange is better than any of them. They mostly did great work in lesser leagues first or were highly thought of.

Les Reed (Charlton)
Rene Meulensteen (Fulham)
Frank De Boer (Palace)
Bob Bradley (Swansea)
Terry Connor (Wolves)
Nathan Jones (Southampton)

 

[Yiddo]

I think we should go for the Forest manager, he has shown what a capable manager can do when given time, who is the manager of Forest these days? . . . . . .

 

[Jurgen the German]

We've only one leader in the team and that's Kulu, yet he isn't part of the leadership team, it's a joke. Son is a legend but not a leader, Madders is a nice bloke but not a leader, and Romero doesn't look committed to us. None of them should be near a leaders group.

Agree on all counts. Just a quick point on Maddison’s interview after, I thought it was a very good interview considering the circumstances. He clearly didn’t want to be there and said as much, said the fans probably don’t want to listen either but he didn’t hide away.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Agree on all counts. Just a quick point on Maddison’s interview after, I thought it was a very good interview considering the circumstances. He clearly didn’t want to be there and said as much, said the fans probably don’t want to listen either but he didn’t hide away.

He didn’t have a choice as the club have a contract to put a certain amount of players out for interviews
Why isn’t Romero or Sonny ever doing these ?

 

[Mcfee]

I find the whole concept of a leadership group ridiculous, but they're obviously chosen because they're strong figures in the dressing room.

I think it’s more like Ange was in awe of them.

 

[DubSpur]

He didn’t have a choice as the club have a contract to put a certain amount of players out for interviews
Why isn’t Romero or Sonny ever doing these ?

Son does in fairness, looks like he's going to cry every time he does one.

 

[tommysvr]

That’s your choice. Gonna struggle to find a fan base where it doesn’t happen though so you might need a new sport.

fudge me dead. I don’t like people singing “you don’t know what you’re doing” and suddenly I need a new sport? How fudging patronising.

Fits in very well with the clueless Aussie stuff though. Well done.

 

[Daveeeeeeeed]

I don’t agree with the fan chanting but, yes, on the face of it, the decision was baffling. Bergvall was one of our better players and he got hooked while lads who were playing poorly stayed on. The fact that afterwards Ange didn’t say the sub was pre planned or attribute it to illness indicates to me that the fans were right to be baffled.

Chants like that, rightly or wrongly, are an occupational hazard in football. You may not care that other fan bases do it too but the point is that it’s a very human reaction to the sort of frustration Ange is generating. It’s not specific to Spurs fans like you insinuate.

What is unique here is the manager’s reaction. I’ve never seen a manager react like that before that I can recall. In my opinion it was petty, small time and unprofessional. That he, in my opinion, lied about his reaction afterwards just compounded the situation.

The guys a melt. I have never had dislike for a manager as much as I do for Ange. Crying out for an actual winner like Conte, Mourinho and I would have Poch back in a heartbeat. This club is ruined under Ange currently and its getting more toxic as each week/game goes by.

 

[tommysvr]

It happens in all walks of life. Do you remember how schoolkids behave when they sense a teacher isn't up to the job. Or hecklers at bad comedy. It's just human nature if you're being made to suffer on account of someone who is overstretching.

Obviously have compassion. But people doubling down on their incompetence can be hard to stomach.

Thank you, school kids in a playground a great comparison.

 

[Jurgen the German]

He didn’t have a choice as the club have a contract to put a certain amount of players out for interviews
Why isn’t Romero or Sonny ever doing these ?

Son does do them. I still think the way Maddison fielded the questions was good under the circumstances. Showed up our manager who acts like a big fudging baby when dealing with a similar line of questioning.

 

[Jurgen the German]

fudge me dead. I don’t like people singing “you don’t know what you’re doing” and suddenly I need a new sport? How fudging patronising.

Fits in very well with the clueless Aussie stuff though. Well done.

He’s not wrong though. It just what happens in football. We aren’t a unique fanbase as many like to point out. I actually think Ange has got a relatively easy ride from the fanbase as a whole considering the awful results he has delivered this season. If anything Levy is the one who has been getting the most stick.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Son does do them. I still think the way Maddison fielded the questions was good under the circumstances. Showed up our manager who acts like a big fudging baby when dealing with a similar line of questioning.

Sonny rarely does them
What he does he stare at the floor
Look like he is gonna cry and say it can’t happen
But then it happens again

 

[tommysvr]

He’s not wrong though. It just what happens in football. We aren’t a unique fanbase as many like to point out. I actually think Ange has got a relatively easy ride from the fanbase as a whole considering the awful results he has delivered this season. If anything Levy is the one who has been getting the most stick.

I don’t give a fudge mate. I don’t like it. I fudging I hate that I’m associated with people who think it’s ok simply because I’m a Spurs fan.

 

[DeanoAustin]

fudge me dead. I don’t like people singing “you don’t know what you’re doing” and suddenly I need a new sport? How fudging patronising.

Now you're willfully misrepresenting what I'm saying.

Your exact words were:

"Fans like the ones singing and you who excuse it are not who I wanted to be associated with."

If you don't want to be associated with fans like the ones singing last night or people like me then that would suggest you don't want to be associated with Tottenham Hotspur because by supporting the club you're associated with us. To take the point a step further, every club has fans like that so you'll struggle to find any club who wouldn't have fans reacting the same way in the same situation. That's football. Has been for as long as I've been following it.

And I'd just like to clarify, as a fan, I don't agree with the chanting but I accept it's part and parcel of professional football. I expect players and managers to deal with it better.